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[Inquiring Mind]

My question is, why are people hitting test cyp 3 times per week?

Half life of 8-10 days, how is pinning 3x per week beneficial ? This isn't being a smart ass either, i reallly don't understand that concept.

I pin 3x a week because, well, honestly I like to pin. Something risque at it. LOL. But seriously, because I have to pin the masteron eod, so i figured i may as was well pin my Cyp along with since I'm pocking myself either way.
Also, If the concept of peeks and valleys prevails, then eod day pinning of Cyp would/should further promote an even level through out the week.
Its a long ester, so it will be in the blood longer anyway, but why tolerate the spikes and dips if it can be avoided? Especially if you pinning other gear frequently anyway?

Im not arguing in favor of it, just justifying why I'm doing it. I'm open to counter-argument.

 

[Ironlyfe80]

Btw, I am feeling good on this run and making progress consistently. I'm not saying my numbers are good or bad, as I have only had bloods done one other time while on AAS. They are just not what I expected. I will continue to run what I have of TSLs and take another blood test.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Btw, I am feeling good on this run and making progress consistently. I'm not saying my numbers are good or bad, as I have only had bloods done one other time while on AAS. They are just not what I expected. I will continue to run what I have of TSLs and take another blood test.

I didn't see your blood, but did it have free testosterone on it?

 

[Ironlyfe80]

My question is, why are people hitting test cyp 3 times per week?

Half life of 8-10 days, how is pinning 3x per week beneficial ? This isn't being a smart ass either, i reallly don't understand that concept.

If you are referring to me, I pin every 72 hours compared to most other who pin every 84 hours. Not a whole lot of difference there if you ask me.

 

[Ironlyfe80]

I didn't see your blood, but did it have free testosterone on it?

It caps at 50, but it was greater than.

 

[Roger rabbit]

I pin 3x a week because, well, honestly I like to pin. Something risque at it. LOL. But seriously, because I have to pin the masteron eod, so i figured i may as was well pin my Cyp along with since I'm pocking myself either way.
Also, If the concept of peeks and valleys prevails, then eod day pinning of Cyp would/should further promote an even level through out the week.
Its a long ester, so it will be in the blood longer anyway, but why tolerate the spikes and dips if it can be avoided? Especially if you pinning other gear frequently anyway?

Im not arguing in favor of it, just justifying why I'm doing it. I'm open to counter-argument.

The body naturally has peaks and dips, testosterone is typically highest in morning and significantly drops through the day.

To me, hitting long esters 3x per week, even though it adds up to the same mg per week is affected in the body much differently.

So for me, if cyp has a half life of 8-10 days and every 6-7 days it's injected you will see a greater spike in the testosterone in the system which can be utilized at a much higher efficiency and get the most out of it.

I haven't done enough researching bloods injected once per week vs 3x per week on long esters, but from the looking I've done on 2x vs1x on long esters I always see greater tt and free test. On the 1x injection

So im curious if at 3x per week you would see a greater free test and lower total test? Again, I have no clue and don't remember seeing free test on any blood tests lately.

But anyways, I think to do what you do if you are seeing the gains,it was just something that I was thinking about , lol

 

[Roger rabbit]

It caps at 50, but it was greater than.

I've seen this a lot, if your free test is really high then your body will use your total test, this is because your body is using the test at its best ability.... so think of the total test as a bank and your free test pulls from it.

Free test is what you want to be astronomically high, this is what builds those big ass muscles, total test is just floating in your body waiting to be used pretty much.

So you can have a 9,000 total test but if your free test is 9 then all your test is bound up and not being used. This is why you are seeing good gains with that free test as high as it is. That total test is being used efficiently, that's a great thing.

And this goes back to, does more pins equal high free test? Hopefully more people who post bloods will ensure to get free test and uncapped

 

[CdnGuy]

Btw, I am feeling good on this run and making progress consistently. I'm not saying my numbers are good or bad, as I have only had bloods done one other time while on AAS. They are just not what I expected. I will continue to run what I have of TSLs and take another blood test.

Long as you and all Tsl customers are happy with their results is what really matters. The issue and concern imo is the dirty tactics TSL used to lure customers when arriving . Your numbers don't even come close to ALL the initial bloods posted last year. Gonna drop this now cuz the evidence is right there. Tsl can deflect all he wants but his cocky smug attitude speaks volumes.

 

[w1ck3d]

It might be. My last test on just cyp, my ratio was barely over 3 to 1. I don't like my HDL being that low either.

Besides the blood work how do you feel? Are you seeing gains from the product? Happy with results?

 

[w1ck3d]

Nvm ignore me... I wasn't caught up

 

[G2Ready]

Sorry I'm a member that just can't comprehend blood work factors.... so are we settling on androgen receptor desensitization? Should we also evaluate users length of aas abuse... and consider that there numbers of total Testosterone may drop greater than 50% from cycle to cycle on a mg to mg basis?... I'm curious about this binding theory....

So are we saying his androgen receptors are clogged?

I'm confused as fark... think the guy said he's pinning 525 and didn't even make 2,000

Think I'm dizzy because until now I always thought in a way.... free test was always in a % or ratio compared to total T
Meaning total t includes free.... and free is the amount of total test that is not bound.

Of course u want more free unbound test... but I don't see how we could reach an acceptable free test with a low total T

Someone help I'm dizzy

 

[Roger rabbit]

Sorry I'm a member that just can't comprehend blood work factors.... so are we settling on androgen receptor desensitization? Should we also evaluate users length of aas abuse... and consider that there numbers of total Testosterone may drop greater than 50% from cycle to cycle on a mg to mg basis?... I'm curious about this binding theory....

So are we saying his androgen receptors are clogged?

I'm confused as fark... think the guy said he's pinning 525 and didn't even make 2,000

Think I'm dizzy because until now I always thought in a way.... free test was always in a % or ratio compared to total T
Meaning total t includes free.... and free is the amount of total test that is not bound.

Of course u want more free unbound test... but I don't see how we could reach an acceptable free test with a low total T

Someone help I'm dizzy

Re- read what I posted above see if that helps.

If not pm me.

 

[G2Ready]

Typically, a test for total testosterone is used for diagnosis. The total testosterone test measures testosterone that is bound to proteins in the blood (e.g., albumin and sex-hormone binding globulin [SHBG]) as well as testosterone that is not bound (free testosterone).

Got this off a gov site ... is this not what TOTAL T MEANS?

 

[Roger rabbit]

Typically, a test for total testosterone is used for diagnosis. The total testosterone test measures testosterone that is bound to proteins in the blood (e.g., albumin and sex-hormone binding globulin [SHBG]) as well as testosterone that is not bound (free testosterone).

Got this off a gov site ... is this not what TOTAL T MEANS?

Correct, but if your free test is high, then that means your body is using the test, that means the total test will be lower since more is free and is using more of the bound test by freeing it up.

So since your body is running very efficiently by freeing up test it's unbending test to use at a more rapid pace.

Make sense ?

 

[G2Ready]

Appreciate it @Roger rabbit

I'm gonna leave it alone for now...

I can see having high or acceptable Total testosterone and still have low free testosterone.......needing treatment

The high free and low total doesn't make sense... total is total bro

 

[Roger rabbit]

Appreciate it @Roger rabbit

I'm gonna leave it alone for now...

I can see having high or acceptable Total testosterone and still have low free testosterone.......needing treatment

The high free and low total doesn't make sense... total is total bro

Yup it is total at the time drawn. Correct.

In between the time of being drawn for blood and not, how fast was the body using the test?

Higher free test the faster the test will be utilized by the body. Therefore your bound test will lower because a portion of it is becoming unbound and is being utilized by free up.

I think you are stuck on the total test at the time of it being drawn, but think about the entire other time the body is using it.

Take blood one day per week and watch those numbers Change drastically.

 

[Inquiring Mind]

FYI, my blood results should be posted. Please take a look and provide your feedback.

 

[Just Fish]

Just from what I've read, Sdrol is worthless compared to Drol or Dbol. Just my $.02.

You've obviously never tried it. Ask anyone who has it is far better with zero bloat

 

[Deepwaters1987]

Typically, a test for total testosterone is used for diagnosis. The total testosterone test measures testosterone that is bound to proteins in the blood (e.g., albumin and sex-hormone binding globulin [SHBG]) as well as testosterone that is not bound (free testosterone).

Got this off a gov site ... is this not what TOTAL T MEANS?

It all confuses me a bit too. I was put on trt even though my total was an acceptable number 269. My free t was 3.6. My shbgs was something like 56 which I believe to be the main component binding my test up.

Edit: Even on test with my total being low to mod 600s in my trough my free t was 9.7 last time it was checked. Still not close to optimal.

 

[Weston]

It all confuses me a bit too. I was put on trt even though my total was an acceptable number 269. My free t was 3.6. My shbgs was something like 56 which I believe to be the main component binding my test up.

Edit: Even on test with my total being low to mod 600s in my trough my free t was 9.7 last time it was checked. Still not close to optimal.

You try spiking your test with a little masteron to free some up or is that still an inconclusive theory?