If you can sift through the childish banter about cocks, sucking cocks and the persons cock they are sucking. I think with the exception of 2 people complaining of " bunk gear" the consensus of gear quality seems to be more positive than negative.
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So, your telling me only 2 people have complained about the gear? I am not perfectly clear on this myself, but I know there are more than 2. Do you think there might be some that have not come forward as well?If you can sift through the childish banter about cocks, sucking cocks and the persons cock they are sucking. I think with the exception of 2 people complaining of " bunk gear" the consensus of gear quality seems to be more positive than negative.
What's with those shiny circle stickers? I didn't get those on mine!!Can't lie wasn't expecting this delivery to arrive today ordered Thursday let's hope this shits as good as tsl shipping
Yes sir that is a fair assumption. I could be wrong about the actual numbers but it seems it still leans towards the positive. Another assumption is, people are pleased with the product but are unwilling to post a reviews. It seems when blood work is posted, it's immediately dismissed as fake or altered. But when someone says" I know gear and this is shit" we light the torches. Not defending him but staying objective and fair. The common goal is HARM REDUCTION!!!So, your telling me only 2 people have complained about the gear? I am not perfectly clear on this myself, but I know there are more than 2. Do you think there might be some that have not come forward as well?
Can anyone tell me what page the list is on. I'm looking but can't find it.
Can anyone tell me what page the list is on. I'm looking but can't find it.
Just put "updated list" in the search box for this thread.Can anyone tell me what page the list is on. I'm looking but can't find it.
So explain how you separate fact from fiction on just I feel good? If a source loads up a thread with shills e.g. Naps, all the reports would be g2g. Meso has always ask for proof.Yes sir that is a fair assumption. I could be wrong about the actual numbers but it seems it still leans towards the positive. Another assumption is, people are pleased with the product but are unwilling to post a reviews. It seems when blood work is posted, it's immediately dismissed as fake or altered. But when someone says" I know gear and this is shit" we light the torches. Not defending him but staying objective and fair. The common goal is HARM REDUCTION!!!
Just so you know, I know of more than 2 members who had issues with the gear. Can't say if they were right or wrong, but according to your criteria, we shouldn't just set fire to them, we should just accept it. Not being a dick, but the same standard needs to be followed both ways sir.Yes sir that is a fair assumption. I could be wrong about the actual numbers but it seems it still leans towards the positive. Another assumption is, people are pleased with the product but are unwilling to post a reviews. It seems when blood work is posted, it's immediately dismissed as fake or altered. But when someone says" I know gear and this is shit" we light the torches. Not defending him but staying objective and fair. The common goal is HARM REDUCTION!!!
That's the million dollar question, every piece of input on any lab is scrutinized. How can anybody fully validate the given information. Hopefully people are educated enough to form their own opinions and make a decision based off facts, not conjuncture from certain members.So explain how you separate fact from fiction on just I feel good? If a source loads up a thread with shills e.g. Naps, all the reports would be g2g. Meso has always ask for proof.
Absolute we should explore every claim, whether positive or negative. I am not arguing with you but making sure we remain viligante to protects our members!! Sometimes personal vendettas compromise the mission, harm reduction. We are in the same battle and on the same side!!!!Just so you know, I know of more than 2 members who had issues with the gear. Can't say if they were right or wrong, but according to your criteria, we shouldn't just set fire to them, we should just accept it. Not being a dick, but the same standard needs to be followed both ways sir.
He wasnt being rhetorical. He was saying we require bloodwork, hplc, labmax etc as "proof" instead of "feelings". There have been in fact more than a couple dissatisfied individuals but even with low test numbers some are "feeling" good. Doesnt mean gear isnt underdosed or raws impure. Also theres a valid concern considering the negative reviews as of late on at least 2 different orals that i recall. Lets not jump to defend or attack any lab if you havent followed along the entire time or at least went back and caught upThat's the million dollar question, every piece of input on any lab is scrutinized. How can anybody fully validate the given information. Hopefully people are educated enough to form their own opinions and make a decision based off facts, not conjuncture from certain members.
Which certain members might this be?That's the million dollar question, every piece of input on any lab is scrutinized. How can anybody fully validate the given information. Hopefully people are educated enough to form their own opinions and make a decision based off facts, not conjuncture from certain members.
Sorry it was a broad statement, not calling out anybody. I hope this doesn't turn into a drama fest!!!! We are on the same team until proven otherwise!!!Which certain members might this be?
Just because tsl dismissed them doesn't mean bloods are now invalid. Those members who know their regular multiplier are the ones we need tests fromI'm sorry but what do you guys want with more bloods? There already have been bad bloods that came back on test e and those were dismissed by tsl and even truk/other members said bloods don't mean much everyone is different etc. So what if more come back bad? They will most likely be dismissed again. I'm sorry just thinking out loud but it just seems like a never ending cycle. Every one says "feelings" don't matter and the only justification for the bad bloods people are using is that those members "felt" good so thats okay then? That's hypocritical...
Just because tsl dismissed them doesn't mean bloods are now invalid. Those members who know their regular multiplier are the ones we need tests from
