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Roco Bama

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This is no beuno!! The only logical explanation would be that supertopin is not so good after all. Even with the high GH serum.

Your previous scores where all good expect for the Omni which you said you were using some nolva and caber. I’m pretty sure nolva affects IGF, how much I don’t know.

That being said I hope it’s the gear and not something happening with you.

Maybe someone with experience can shine the light on this. I know you took a break between the last 2 kits so doubtful it’s over use.
It could be due to some other factors. Perhaps the gear. We can't just jump to the conclusion that supertropin are bunk.
 

Jeffg353

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How long were you taking the 4iu?

It occurred to me it was closer to 200igf when I saw you say you had been running 2iu and only recently went up to 4iu split.

I started the omnis at 2iu but bumped them up to 4iu. Then started the Supertropin after. I've been running these supertropin at 4iu the entire time so like 20+ days at time of testing.
 

Jeffg353

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This is no beuno!! The only logical explanation would be that supertopin is not so good after all. Even with the high GH serum.

Your previous scores where all good expect for the Omni which you said you were using some nolva and caber. I’m pretty sure nolva affects IGF, how much I don’t know.

That being said I hope it’s the gear and not something happening with you.

Maybe someone with experience can shine the light on this. I know you took a break between the last 2 kits so doubtful it’s over use.

I'm going for bloodwork tom or Wed to try n see what is going on.

I dropped the nolva n Caber well over a month ago n switched from adex to aromasin. All of those (nolva, caber, adex) supposedly have a negative impact on igf-1.

Could possibly be that my E2 is too low. E2 is necessary for Igf-1 conversion which is y women usually have higher levels.
 

bmoney

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I'm going for bloodwork tom or Wed to try n see what is going on.

I dropped the nolva n Caber well over a month ago n switched from adex to aromasin. All of those (nolva, caber, adex) supposedly have a negative impact on igf-1.

Could possibly be that my E2 is too low. E2 is necessary for Igf-1 conversion which is y women usually have higher levels.

On all three of my IGF-1 draws my E2 has been in the shitter 4-6 on the sensitive assay which is pretty much non existent. I’ve since stopped adex and will retest I’m a few weeks. Make sure you get the sensitive assay not the standard, it’s not accurate. At any rate I hope you get to the bottom of it.
 

bmoney

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It could be due to some other factors. Perhaps the gear. We can't just jump to the conclusion that supertropin are bunk.

Absolutely I agree! But it’s usually the obvious choice. But since jeff is a research freak and takes bloods maybe we will find out if it is other factors.
 

Roco Bama

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I'm going for bloodwork tom or Wed to try n see what is going on.

I dropped the nolva n Caber well over a month ago n switched from adex to aromasin. All of those (nolva, caber, adex) supposedly have a negative impact on igf-1.

Could possibly be that my E2 is too low. E2 is necessary for Igf-1 conversion which is y women usually have higher levels.
what does the gear you're running consist of ?
 

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