Unsterile Gear

[Nevr2Big]

I recently got some Eq that was shipped in a non-sterile container -- I've filtered it through a 0.22 micrometer filter to catch all the crap and was just wondering what I should bake it at and for how long in order to kill of all the bacteria/viruses without breaking down the molecular bonds of the Eq. I was gonna have a biochem major buddy of mine who works in sterile processing at a local hospital autoclave it but he said that would break down the Eq. Any suggestions?

Nevr2Big

 

[ThePatriot]

I recently got some Eq that was shipped in a non-sterile container -- I've filtered it through a 0.22 micrometer filter to catch all the crap and was just wondering what I should bake it at and for how long in order to kill of all the bacteria/viruses without breaking down the molecular bonds of the Eq. I was gonna have a biochem major buddy of mine who works in sterile processing at a local hospital autoclave it but he said that would break down the Eq. Any suggestions?

Nevr2Big

225 in the oven should be fine. Just dont cook it for too long. 5-10 mins should be good enough. What kind of source is this anyways? I mean shit like that sounds sloppy. Just my opinion

 

[skywalk]

jeez and you want to inject the stuff? hate to say it but throw it away, and get new gear. you'll save yourself a LOT OF $$$ by doing this

Skywalk

 

[joe5572]

I recently got some Eq that was shipped in a non-sterile container -- I've filtered it through a 0.22 micrometer filter to catch all the crap and was just wondering what I should bake it at and for how long in order to kill of all the bacteria/viruses without breaking down the molecular bonds of the Eq. I was gonna have a biochem major buddy of mine who works in sterile processing at a local hospital autoclave it but he said that would break down the Eq. Any suggestions?

Nevr2Big

If you are going to bake it- (Id toss it) vent it with a needle in the top- but NOT touching the solution. If it touching the oil- you'll have a little geyser in your stove. 225 degrees for 10-15 minutes would be safe.

 

[skywalk]

yup definitely vent. watch out tho some vials leave an open hole when a needle is placed in the rubber and baked.
Just get rid of it and buy some quality gear

Skywalk

 

[gman67]

The .22 micron is going to catch most anything. But to be on the safe side you can bake it at 225 degrees for a couple of cycles. The heating and cooling process supposedly is what kills the bacteria.

 

[tomo]

If it came like that--be careful-a lot could have happened to it before it got to you--tomo

 

[J DUB]

Sounds like I probably know who that came from, and while it doesn't necessarily look like it is sterile, plenty of people have used it without problem so after filtering it and baking it, it should be good to go. I am assuming that it is from a fairly popular int'l source, right?

 

[joe5572]

The .22 micron is going to catch most anything. But to be on the safe side you can bake it at 225 degrees for a couple of cycles. The heating and cooling process supposedly is what kills the bacteria.

A couple of cycles? He should keep it in his stove for 10-12 weeks twice?? It'll evaporate by then lol

 

[ThePatriot]

jeez and you want to inject the stuff? hate to say it but throw it away, and get new gear. you'll save yourself a LOT OF $$$ by doing this

Skywalk

I was goign to say the same thing but with this guy you can imagine he paid some money for it and is thrilled to have it. I myself in your situation would post on here that I tossed but in actuality I would be shooting that shit in my ass as we speak. So bake the fucker and inject yourself only once and wait at least 3 days before you use it again. Make sure you dont get infected or something.

 

[Nevr2Big]

The reason it is unsterile is because of the packaging it came in -- it is international (european) in origin. I'd rather not elaborate on an open board as to what the packaging was because it might tip off postal inspectors / customs (it is a really good method -- very discreet, but just requires a little extra work from the recepient). Thanks for the input -- I think I'll do 250deg/10min 3 or 4 times.

EDIT - I think the source is more popular on other boards (bodybuilding.com), a buddy of mine actually ordered it (100ml) and gave me what he didnt use (about 50 ml). I'm running it along with 500mg/week (the 250mg/ml stuff, pretty painless btw) of PL Test Enan for 12 weeks and 35 mg of dbol/day for the first 4 weeks.

Nevr2Big

 

[ThePatriot]

Ever thought about domestic? A lot safer and better packaging I gaurantee.

 

[TheIceman]

Posted by ThePatriot
quote:
225 in the oven should be fine. Just dont cook it for too long. 5-10 mins should be good enough. What kind of source is this anyways? I mean shit like that sounds sloppy. Just my opinion


I hear that!!

 

[ExtremeAnabolics]

yes I would certainly bake it for about 5-10 min. and also add some BA to it, but make sure you don't add alot only add about 1% for this is all you need to kill any bacteria.

Take Care, EA

 

[Talon]

dont bother baking...

If you ran the entire abount through a .22 micron filter then it is sterile. The question is: did you put into a sterile vial? If not then you will have to sterilize the vial first. Bake the vial at 225 for at LEAST 20min, which really wont help unless you have an auto clave bag, but you probably dont have a laminer flow hood either. So you are taking a chance if you are using a non-sterile environment to do this.

To be MORE sure: filter the product into a new sterile vial. That is the only way unless you have access to a clean room.

As a compounding pharmacy we dont sell gear but we do a lot of test for urology practices as well as caverject and sports medicine preparations. Let me know if you need any insight into the proper USP guidelines for sterile production.

 

[notbigenough]

If you ran the entire abount through a .22 micron filter then it is sterile. The question is: did you put into a sterile vial? If not then you will have to sterilize the vial first. Bake the vial at 225 for at LEAST 20min, which really wont help unless you have an auto clave bag, but you probably dont have a laminer flow hood either. So you are taking a chance if you are using a non-sterile environment to do this.

To be MORE sure: filter the product into a new sterile vial. That is the only way unless you have access to a clean room.

As a compounding pharmacy we dont sell gear but we do a lot of test for urology practices as well as caverject and sports medicine preparations. Let me know if you need any insight into the proper USP guidelines for sterile production.

A well known International source who's products need to be put into another container, told me to bake my Test Prop at 108oC/212oF for 40 minutes to make sure it was sterile!!

 

[ThePatriot]

About 1%ba is also a very good advice. I cant believe that slipped my mind. Good catch.

 

[Talon]

sterility

I think I will check the msds for test, but if you cook it that long at that temp it will kill the test. There are two issues: 1. sterility, are there any bacterial agents in the med. 2. the potency of the product.

You must cook an intrument or product at a high temp for a long enough period of time to kill the bacteria. Some chemicals, such as triacinolone can take that heat. So we do NOT filter it, we autoclave it. Test is NOT such a product so we have to filter it. Which is a HUGE pain in the ass because unless you own a vacuume pump, you have to do it by hand.

If you do not cook it at a high enough temp or for long enough the bacteria wont die. And cooking wont take care of pyrogens (non-organic contaminants) at all, you must filter those out.




"A well known International source who's products need to be put into another container, told me to bake my Test Prop at 108oC/212oF for 40 minutes to make sure it was sterile!!"

 

[Nevr2Big]

I did filter into a sterile vial (courtesy of getpinz.com) -- the BA sounds like a good idea to me.

Nevr2Big

 

[EDED]

I think I will check the msds for test, but if you cook it that long at that temp it will kill the test. There are two issues: 1. sterility, are there any bacterial agents in the med. 2. the potency of the product.

You must cook an intrument or product at a high temp for a long enough period of time to kill the bacteria. Some chemicals, such as triacinolone can take that heat. So we do NOT filter it, we autoclave it. Test is NOT such a product so we have to filter it. Which is a HUGE pain in the ass because unless you own a vacuume pump, you have to do it by hand.

If you do not cook it at a high enough temp or for long enough the bacteria wont die. And cooking wont take care of pyrogens (non-organic contaminants) at all, you must filter those out.




"A well known International source who's products need to be put into another container, told me to bake my Test Prop at 108oC/212oF for 40 minutes to make sure it was sterile!!"

talon you must work at a lab, me too, anyways, some pyrogens are small and will go right through 0.22um



like everyone else said, bake, filter, add ba, then shoot maybe a cc or 1/2 cc just to see if you get an infection or not then go all out.