MESO-Rx Exclusive Untold Jewish History of Anabolic Steroids

[ergomaniac]

continuing on in history to the post WWII era, the Germans were systematic in the use of steroids with their athletes.

and could that be part of the story of the stigma towards steroids. state sponsored doping. without athletes knowing. even women and the youth. there was a lot of harm to some people ive read. today athletes seem more than willing. a lot more is known. and times have changed.

 

[Millard]

continuing on in history to the post WWII era, the Germans were systematic in the use of steroids with their athletes.

Yes, the systematic use of steroids by GDR and USSR athletes following the war greatly contributed to the demonization of steroids. Steroids were a tool used to spread communism! Communism = evil, then steroids = evil

Great article on this -> Beamish, R. and Ritchie, I. The Spectre of Steroids: Nazi Propaganda, Cold War Anxieties and Patriarchal Paternalism, The International Journal of the History of Sport, 22(5), 2005, pp. 777-95

 

[OhNoYo]

My latest article is about Jews, Nazis and Anabolic Steroids. Let me know what you think:

I will attempt to read this once I find a suitable time to digest it all, MB.

I have never heard of Nazi's using AAS, though I heard them taking amphetamines though, including Hitler.

 

[Millard]

I have never heard of Nazi's using AAS

If you read enough history of anabolic steroids articles on the internet, this unsupported claim is made over and over again - almost as frequently as the myth that John Ziegler invented Dianabol.

 

[BBC3]

DAMN...! Millard posts simply an informative article based on historical fact and nothing but ignorant hubbub along with a BIT of intelligent conversation.?!?!?! So I'll go ahead and chip in my shitty little bit.... LOL

Lots of Jews left Germany during the war. Lots stayed. Many Jews changed their names to survive. Many Germans later changed their names to survive. So I want to know how this most obvious observation now relative to US political history goes unnoticed. Lets talk about Arnold Schwartzenegger for a moment. their are some out their who who have US laws changed to have him president. As I dont think he could ever be as not being born here ( Seems like that was the issue to recollection. I believe he is cited as Austrian Born. And consider the name "Schwarzenegger". You really have to wonder was there any name change there at any time. And perhaps the Schwarz part comming from the Jewish name "Schwartz" and Negger appearing more Austrian.. Wiki says the name comes from his dad dating back to born in 1907. His dad was an Austrian police chief prior to joining the Nazi Army to be a decent rank in a hardcore attrocity area. But did he change his name at some point. Check out this photo:Google, if accurate. Looks like some Jew to me.... Just an observation.

When you consider Hitler's movement to build a "master race" genetically speaking, you have to wonder with Arnold having the physical attributes of the "perfect specimen". Wiki went on to state that apparently Arnold's father basically diss'd him outright as a child due to suspicions that he was not his child. You have to furthe wonder the obvious implication did his bride breed with a "Master Race" behind his back for poliical reasons, and to ensure family success.??! Consider back then they were probably sure that the world was going to look a little different. Even being born in 1947, about 2 years after the war ended, all the ties she would have been making to ensure that birth would have already been in place and unstoppable. Just saying...... Food for thought.
- But was his dad a man without a country and tormented in a place he only pretended to be for the sake of his family? What would YOU have done...?
- Is Arnold his father's son?
- Is Arnold perhaps even more "Nazi/German" than his father even was?
- Gustov Schwarzenegger was also a Postal Inspector prior to joining the German Army. WOULD HE HAVE BUSTED YUR STASH and sent YOU a letter.!!![)]
- Would Arnold pardon YOU in a states appeal on if you were busted for juice in California?? LOL
- Its funny Hitler had all the physical atributes of THE OPPOSITE of what his "master race" was designed to be. A small dark man the exact oppostie of the Blond haired blue eyed stoic strong Aryan race (and note that the term "aryan" appears misused and perverted throught the years... . How PERSONAL was his campaign with regard to his SELF ESTEEM.??
- Did you know Hitler was actually born in AUSTRIA.. And yet wreaked all that Havok a the leader of Germany.?
- Hitler went to Catholic school........LOL
- Hitler had a brother named Gustov - same name as arnolds dad. - Born a little earlier though....

Enough fun facts, or fictions who knows. And sorry to drag back under the bus again Arnold. People should of course be judged by what they do and say NOW. What they are now. And I make no beefs. Arnold has always been inspiration to me and others. A Giant of strength and fortitude. You dont see him getting pulled over all shitty for the cameras in LA. do ya....

The only certainty of all this is that Arnold used steroids and his body is the epitomy of what Hitler aspired to be... And he used steroids..... But he didn't know it was "wrong"... LOL

And good article Millard!

 

[BBC3]

One further. Did I mention Hitler was thought to be absolutely insane (and moreso from his general self) by the end of his life due to AMPHETAMINE USE>..... LOL[)][)][)]

 

[Millard]

Hitler's use of a staggering number of drugs has been documented. He was a hypochondriac. Amphetamines, of course. As far as steroids are concerned, in 1983, an author who reviewed the detailed notes of Hitler's personal physician reported that Hitler used injections of Schering Testoviron and various animal testicular extracts (Orchicithin, Orchikrin, Prostacrinum).

The Secret Diaries of Hitler's Doctor (PDF)

On May 9, 1944, Morell noticed a pronounced tremble in Hitler’s legs and commented in his papers that this was “probably caused by worry (over the invasion that is imminent: where?)” – probably the outcast biggest triumph of the top secret Anglo-American Fortitude deception strategy, which was designed to make the Nazi High Command believe that D-Day was scheduled as early as mid-May.

Morell’s remedy was to inject Hitler with intravenous glucose and iodine and with intramuscular shots of a male sex hormone marketed as Testoviron.

 

[Wiscon]

All that certainly didn't work as well as Hitler's self injected dose of lead in the temple. That fixed him right up.

 

[BBC3]

Ehh? Oh, I get it you are talking a bullet? You presume a lot... Talk will remain the cheapest commodity on the planet. Not saying whether true or not. Only the higher the importance the matter, the more scrutiny is required. There are a lot of notions about how hitler died, or not....

But yes, Lead is definitely unhealthy to humans, especially when comprised in large MASS sums and moving faster than the speed of sound... LOL

All that certainly didn't work as well as Hitler's self injected dose of lead in the temple. That fixed him right up.

 

[Ct.Omega]

Quite interesting! Not too familiar with steroids or the issues surrounding it as of yet.
Just starting out.

 

[BBC3]

Stick around!! You managed to find the BEST place on the internet thanks to Millard!!!! And the most fun too i suspect!!! I recommend a mix between this column and the mens health column. I spent more time over here at first in order to learn basic usage protocol. Then moved to health to learn move about the nutz and bolts... Lol. Welcome...!

And NO DISCOUNT to Dr. Scally what-so-ever, as he works hard day and night to ensure this information is accurate, fair, and objective... He is the wheel behind the motion....

We are still trying to forgive Bill.... LOL

 

[BBC3]

So what you are saying is//// That if Hitler was alive in the eighties. He was cornering the market on HOT STUFF... LOL

I am curious though NOW.. I wonder the purpose of the iodine in the concoction...??!!!!

Hitler's use of a staggering number of drugs has been documented. He was a hypochondriac. Amphetamines, of course. As far as steroids are concerned, in 1983, an author who reviewed the detailed notes of Hitler's personal physician reported that Hitler used injections of Schering Testoviron and various animal testicular extracts (Orchicithin, Orchikrin, Prostacrinum).

The Secret Diaries of Hitler's Doctor (PDF)

 

[biggerben69]

I think what helped a lot more than aas was the methamphetamine they were given. Chinese and Japanese also....march forever, fight til you're dead, no fear, don't need to eat much. The US still gives amphetamines to pilots and others that need to be awake, alert and have long missions. Desoxyn is pharmaceutical methamphetamine.

 

[MuscleMind]

I think what helped a lot more than aas was the methamphetamine they were given. Chinese and Japanese also....march forever, fight til you're dead, no fear, don't need to eat much. The US still gives amphetamines to pilots and others that need to be awake, alert and have long missions. Desoxyn is pharmaceutical methamphetamine.

What a great idea.

 

[nickels]

the stigma attached to steroids and other performance enhancing drugs is baffling to say the least. i dont get it and never will. and seems to be the only area where progress is condemned. warfare is butt ugly on its prettiest day. but seems to be well tolerated. almost celebrated. technology to kill advancing daily. violence is evil incarnate. it goes against any religious teaching. and drags us all down. as human beings. condemning chemicals without accounting for those who use or abuse them makes no sense. as if there no accountability. it was the drugs. no one blames explosives or automatic weapons for the slaughter. and try to regulate gun ownership in this country and some people will shit a brick. its my right they scream. introduce some hormones into the body and youre a cheat, criminal or worse. unless your drugs are called medicine.
society needs to get over this. fast. or be content with mediocrity. the possibilties seem almost endless. if it werent for the weak, scared or misinformed. or just plain corrupt. who seem to hold way to much influence. democracy is nice. everyone has an opinion. whos holds the most value. in the same way scientists arent politicians. politicians arent scientists.

Fantastic post.


Also, thanks for sharing this article, OP.

 

[Zestorer]

This was a concern that I had about writing the article. Taking a demonized substance and attributing it to a group that has been historically discriminated against, especially by taking credit away from the Nazis, could create the wrong perception.

I tried to title the article in such a way that made my intentions clear. Obviously, I think anabolic steroids are amazing compounds.

We should stop demonizing steroids and start celebrating steroids.

Similarly, we should stop blaming Nazis for them and celebrate the inventors of these compounds.

The people involved in the creation of various anabolic steroids deserve credit and recognition and should be proud of the discoveries.

Rather than reinforce any anti-semitism, I hoped to create a positive portrayal.

Given the positive associations with steroids generally held within the bodybuilding community, I had hoped this clearly would be the case.

I am sorry but I am respectively calling bullshit. You see sir, although you may have done your best to sum up what you think surrounds Jew in the form of discrimination, you incidentally forget to make note of how these Jews you credit are in fact frauds. Because, like the ever so infamous Jew Albert Einstein, they often merely took credit for discoveries made years or even decades before. However, the Jew knows how to market everything from cheap paper towels, to human decency. Thus, comes the myth, that the Jews are "hated for no reason", when infact there are many reasons, although I will not venture into details.

In any event, I'm tired of seeing bigoted articles like this that actively challenge the humanity of Nazis, while calling them and their folk evil, while the good ol' Jews are the smartest, nicest, most decent people around....ugh makes me sick to even type such words.

But it truly is sad that my anscestors are still made the butt of every joke, every where I turn, and the place I least expect to hear the bullshit Holocaust story it pops up. I got to say ever since I signed up to meso I've been really happy With the people, and info but this is just flat out disgraceful!

 

[Millard]

Accused of being anti-semitic AND writing "bigoted articles... that actively challenge the humanity of Nazis" for the same article

 

[BeastMode1]

Nice, Im glad to see not everyone is blind! There,s alot more than roids going on with them people. They are going to start world war 3, If they bomb Iran. I beleive they are the antichrist. THEY KILLED JESUS.....

Agreed I'm not hating on the post but I'm a bit skeptical considering that Jews run every aspect of the media.

 

[solo47]

And rabid anti-semetism along with Holocaust-denying Nazi apologists reveal their morbid colours, right here on Meso-Rx. I'm disgusted but not surprised since the weak mind has always been prey to paranoid racist conspiracy theories or heir to such a sense of shame over its ancestors that it attempts to rewrite history.

Get real, think critically and honestly, and realize all conclusions are subject to change.

Solo

 

[Zestorer]

And rabid anti-semetism along with Holocaust-denying Nazi apologists reveal their morbid colours, right here on Meso-Rx. I'm disgusted but not surprised since the weak mind has always been prey to paranoid racist conspiracy theories or heir to such a sense of shame over its ancestors that it attempts to rewrite history.

Get real, think critically and honestly, and realize all conclusions are subject to change.

Solo

I take it your a fervent believer in holocaust nonsense, correct? But I wonder, are you a Zionist or simply a Talmudic Jew trying to spread his hate and ethnocentrism wherever he can.

And as far as trying to "re-write" history, I would have to say that you obviously have never done your research, since any logical person could see from evidence that there is no possible way that "gas chambers" were ever used to systematically eliminate Jews.

I dont think it would be a stretch of the imagination to assume you have little education, and even less understanding of the fundamentals of politics. It's not conspiracy when there's overwhelming proof of otherwise.