raysugar1234
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I found out that some guys are using Aromasin along with a Serm for pct.... This is contrary to what I've always done, any of you guys use Aromasin for PCT?
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I use aromasin on my bridge to pct. If I'm on a 12 week sustanon cycle I'll keep using aromasin untill week 15. Then stop and use nolva/clomid combo.
raysugar1234
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^^^^^This I have heard of and it makes sense.... But using it through the whole cycle then through pct does not seem like a good idea to me....
Aromasin increases your free test by stopping the conversion of testosterone into estrogen causing your test levels to increase. It has nothing to do with stimulating the gonads the produce test.
I've been doing a lot of reading on it lately, I thought I book marked a couple good reads but I can't find them, if I do I'll post em up.
on paper it seems like it should work great for pct and there are quite a few threads about it across the net, most of them reporting positive feedback.
edit: here is a study I found.
http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2003-031279?HITS=10&hits=10&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=30&resourcetype=HWCIT&andorexacttitle=and&RESULTFORMAT=1&sortspec=relevance&maxtoshow=&fulltext=growth+hormone+igf+1+male+breast&andorexacttitleabs=and&
it increased testosterone concentrations by 60%.
edit: click on the error message, link works....
on paper it seems like it should work great for pct and there are quite a few threads about it across the net, most of them reporting positive feedback.
edit: here is a study I found.
http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2003-031279?HITS=10&hits=10&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=30&resourcetype=HWCIT&andorexacttitle=and&RESULTFORMAT=1&sortspec=relevance&maxtoshow=&fulltext=growth+hormone+igf+1+male+breast&andorexacttitleabs=and&
it increased testosterone concentrations by 60%.
edit: click on the error message, link works....
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An AI will do both increase synthesis and decrease degradation. It could be used as part of PCT. This and other combos/mono therapy need to be studies and published. Only LABS will tell!
BIGMESC
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Think I will try it on my upcoming PCT with clomid and nolva or torem.
I will post my protocol that I used with my bloodwork that I get 5 weeks after pct.
What dosage and timing would be recommended?
I will post my protocol that I used with my bloodwork that I get 5 weeks after pct.
What dosage and timing would be recommended?
HandyManny
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Welp judgung by your recent thread about the relation between AI's and cad, shouldn't we stay away from AI's as much as possible ?
raysugar1234
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Will you also be using the AI though the entire cycle as well as the bridge period? Will you be using aromasin or adex? Will you use it everyday or every other day? This is an interesting topic, for now I'm going to stick with nolva and clomid but I'm curious to see what other people think about this and results of using this for pct... I will be interested to see your labs..
raysugar1234
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If aromasin is used for the entire cycle, bridge period and through pct that would be a very long time without producing any estrogen. That's more than 3 months without producing estrogen depending on the cycle...That is one reason it doesn't seem like a good idea to me.. Could there be some kind of long term damage from this? How would the body respond after not producing estrogen for such a long period of time?
This is short term use and the E2 will not be knocked down to extremely low or undetectable levels. There are no long term studies of men on an AI. Anyone who is using an AI as "TRT" should take caution for their E2 levels.
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BIGMESC
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I use Adex @ 1mg a week now on cycle.
My last blood work had my E2 a little high 59 I think, don't have them in front of me, and I am ok with that.
I will continue AI through Hcg of 1000ui e3d for 2 weeks.
Then? I am thinking continue through first 2 weeks of 4 week PCT
BTW I run short esters last 2 weeks of cycle so I can start PCT 2 weeks after last pin
My last blood work had my E2 a little high 59 I think, don't have them in front of me, and I am ok with that.
I will continue AI through Hcg of 1000ui e3d for 2 weeks.
Then? I am thinking continue through first 2 weeks of 4 week PCT
BTW I run short esters last 2 weeks of cycle so I can start PCT 2 weeks after last pin
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raysugar1234
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Thanks for responding Dr. Jim and Scally... I wanted to get the experts opinions on this...
raysugar1234
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So the last two weeks of PCT you will discontinue the Adex? Adex and Aromasin do work differently, Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor, I'm sure you knew that Though. That's a good idea to run short esters to start PCT earlier, I'm considering using prop at the end of my current cycle to do this.. Why did you go with Adex over Aromasin?
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BIGMESC
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Its what I have used, so I am gettting a working knowledge of dosage, I take this amount and I get this result. I am thinking of getting some aromasin in case I needed to really lower my E drastically, but crashing ones E sounds like it sucks and you need it to build muscle.
Thinking about it some more I might run it through PCT because my test levels will be raised by the serms and converting to E. I don't think it will negatively effect my recovery and my help. Worst case I feel like shit, like I am on Pct[
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Its just an experiment, so I might as well find out how it works for me with the least variables.
Thinking about it some more I might run it through PCT because my test levels will be raised by the serms and converting to E. I don't think it will negatively effect my recovery and my help. Worst case I feel like shit, like I am on Pct[
)]Its just an experiment, so I might as well find out how it works for me with the least variables.
raysugar1234
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Its what I have used, so I am gettting a working knowledge of dosage, I take this amount and I get this result. I am thinking of getting some aromasin in case I needed to really lower my E drastically, but crashing ones E sounds like it sucks and you need it to build muscle.
Thinking about it some more I might run it through PCT because my test levels will be raised by the serms and converting to E. I don't think it will negatively effect my recovery and my help. Worst case I feel like shit, like I am on Pct[
Its just an experiment, so I might as well find out how it works for me with the least variables.
As far as running an AI for PCT, it does seem like Adex would be the better choice for that reason..... Personally, I always use aromasin... I'm curious to see how this turns out...
BIGMESC
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I will let you know how it turns out.
What dosage do you use of aromasin? Do you get bad E sides?
I get really high E I was 175 last cycle on a 42 point scale at 7-8 weeks and had minor sides that nolva was covering but for my prostates sake etc I started running adex. I am under the understanding that it is not as harsh and more controllable that is why I chose it.
What dosage do you use of aromasin? Do you get bad E sides?
I get really high E I was 175 last cycle on a 42 point scale at 7-8 weeks and had minor sides that nolva was covering but for my prostates sake etc I started running adex. I am under the understanding that it is not as harsh and more controllable that is why I chose it.
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