Victory is Hammer/Hammer is Victory??

[TX_Hempknight]

So theres been alot of speculation involving our boy, the kennel brewer, ol hamnasty himself rebranding as Victory. Below is a link to my bloodwork thread on ASF, in that thread a member said he emailed the old hammer email for a price list and received a Victory price list instead to which hammer said he sent the wrong list and he was checking out victory for caber.......

We can all draw our own conclusions to this. It links up with around the same time Victory decided to go private again on BOP or shortly after. Perhaps he sent the wrong list, figured he would be found out and decided to dip out and rebrand. Theres speculation that he might be flash labs or flex as they just came on board after Victory left. i posted the screenshots for those not able to log in on ASF. Enjoy.

and Finkle is Einhorn.

Bloodwork from old ASF Sponsor - Page 3

http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/showthread.php/84986-Bloodwork-from-old-ASF-Sponsor/page3

 

[DrinkFlintWater]

I thought this was well known for quite sometime now. @T-Bagger brought this up idk how long ago...Victory was using the same IP previously used by Prime nasty but there was more to it....cant remember what tho..

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Hammer is so sleazy. Why can't someone shoot him in the face 15 times?

 

[T-Bagger]

Apparently he’s gotten his act together as Victory

 

[Jayd]

Following this one..... where’s my popcorn!?

 

[ickyrica]

Hammer is so sleazy. Why can't someone shoot him in the face 15 times?

You on cycle? My kind of post

 

[TRTvegan]

Love the dishonesty... now I have to throw away a ton of gear

 

[MindlessWork]

Apparently he’s gotten his act together as Victory

He will never change his ways but he sure can change his spots

 

[TRTvegan]

I bet any amount of money that all these labs are linked and sadly the motherfucker running that board knows what’s going on, but hey , he’s making his monthly rent from them, Why would he care.
And that’s the labs, let’s not even get into it about the reps ...

 

[T-Bagger]

I bet any amount of money that all these labs are linked and sadly the motherfucker running that board knows what’s going on, but hey , he’s making his monthly rent from them, Why would he care.
And that’s the labs, let’s not even get into it about the reps ...

Bingo

 

[Boxsquatter]

It should be to no doubt or surprise to anyone that some suppliers run their business under multiple names.. for instance I had a problem with a suppler about two years ago. Did t get my whole order and at the time did not want to go thru the headaches. It wasn’t a lot of money. Anyway fast forward a year or so and I was on a board and emailed a supplier for a list and low and behold the list had the same products as the other sponsor. The list was even in the same format. So anyway I emailed him and called him out on it. His exact words were we are not the sponsor in question but we do know who he is and I am sure he will make right the issue. So fuck it I emailed the original sponsor and he sent me what I order again and a 100$ credit. That’s when I new that the are all the same or intertwined together.. Now as far as victory goes and I am not promoting or condoning I have no affiliation with him. I have ran his gear many times since he came on the scene in Jan and have had nothing but good luck and most of the people I know who use him are having good luck. Can he be a old lab with a new name? I don knows what Was weird that all of the sudden he went private back in aug & then reamerged again about a month ago and he is now gone again.. yes it seems off. I have not had the pleasure of using hammer when it was hammer so I don’t know about all the trouble that he caused. The bottom line for me is that I get what I ordered and it is properly doses and me or nobody I know ended up with a infection or worse. What about the reps for these labs. Are they affiliated with them. Are they all the same person. Are they the lab owners with 20 different profiles.... it’s all a crap shoot I guess. Sorry for the long winded post... someone elaborate a litttle more with the reps. And that’s 3 labs on on another board that came on the scene went private and came back and two out of the three went private again all in a months time..

 

[T-Bagger]

Say what you want about who the info arose from (can’t remember now who it was), but they had an inside track at BoP apparently and mentioned how the guys running it were actually behind several of the labs who would pop up then go private. And those board owners are making out like bandits, hence the source dick riding. Can’t lose your bread & butter!

 

[Boxsquatter]

I am with you 100% T. We work too hard for our money to be ripped off... and you are most likely correct in saying a lot of those labs are ran by the same people running the board.. bottom line is. I want what I pay for with no questions. If a lab can’t do that then they should be called out for who they are and what they are.. their is a lot of comrades on these boards and if something g is specualated it most likely has some truth to it.. I have spent ALOT of money with a few labs and so far so good I have been alright... But I am Always opened to suggestions of a new sponsor from a trusted brother.. lol

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Apparently he’s gotten his act together as Victory

Not entirely. Someone showed up here a few months back complaining of floaters in at least one vial. He was called a reverse scammer after resolutions fell through.

 

[T-Bagger]

Not entirely. Someone showed up here a few months back complaining of floaters in at least one vial. He was called a reverse scammer after resolutions fell through.

Forgot about that one. It’s all a big scam over there and any paid board for that matter.

 

[Gaynz39]

I’ve ran Victory from BOP, his Tren E was spot on. I got so aggressive I threw my last Vial out the window, and had to be done

 

[T-Bagger]

I’ve ran Victory from BOP, his Tren E was spot on. I got so aggressive I threw my last Vial out the window, and had to be done

Was it you who had the inside track on what goes on at BoP or was that someone else?

 

[Gaynz39]

Was it you who had the inside track on what goes on at BoP or was that someone else?

I’ve been Booted from there 2 times. I knew some of the shit going on yes. Victory left for awhile, and come back recently. Have ran anything from him this time. Last time he was on there I ran his Test/Tren/Anadrol. All were good. Flash is now on BOP also I seen. Dunno anything about them.

 

[Boxsquatter]

A floater Would be a big fucking no no... I would post a pic and flame whatever the lab was and anytime that lab was googled, a pic of the vail with the floater would come up.. But here is the deal. If a guy is a drug dealer pot,pills,coke,juice ectt you get the point and he sells that shit to 20 other people and they resell it and then it gets resold again, it still comes from that one source. So fuck it. A lab can have twenty names to it. Like I said as long g as I get what I paid for that’s all that matters. And like I said in my first post and I will give the lab In Question “Victory” A positive review cause it would not be fair for me to jump on the band wagon against a lab and not be honest. I have dealt with Victory many many many $$$ times over the last year with no problems. Cause that who this thread was about. That being said my next one can be all fucked up it’s a crap shoot..and if this lab was a”hammer” who I have not had the pleasure of donating too but I have read plenty of posts about and from what I gather and have read in the past has screwed a few to many peopleI. So I understand why and how people are bent. I have no affiliation or do I endorse or encourage anyone to spen their hard earned money on my experiences...

 

[TheIncomparableMrHarrow]

There seems to be a lot of movement there(BOP) lately. Olympia was there for some time and went private. Other random labs are popping up. Victory I believe was private right before a bunch of sales, went public, and then private again. It is kind of hard to keep up over there.

Some members here seem to have mentioned sponsors from over there and have had success with them and then at other times label them complete garbage. I remember reading here that dictator and private label were good and then in another thread people were saying that they were burned by them, rebranding, ect.