Victory is Hammer/Hammer is Victory??

There's no doubt in my mind that some people received legit stuff (more than likely long standing vets to give credibility to Vic) which i understand. To those people i say, Congratulations, Im happy for you. To the ones that got the wrong compounds or underdosed gear, this was for you. This is for all the newcomers to the community. There are too many reputable sources that dont have a long history of fucking over the community and rebranding to risk buying from Hamnasty or any of his "UGLs" that hes running specials on this week.
 
There's no doubt in my mind that some people received legit stuff (more than likely long standing vets to give credibility to Vic) which i understand. To those people i say, Congratulations, Im happy for you. To the ones that got the wrong compounds or underdosed gear, this was for you. This is for all the newcomers to the community. There are too many reputable sources that dont have a long history of fucking over the community and rebranding to risk buying from Hamnasty or any of his "UGLs" that hes running specials on this week.
Ironically Victory and Olympia are both gone from BoP yet again.
 
So I just got scammed if I ordered. I received it quick af. But sounds like I shouldn’t trust it hmm
Damn yeah I was just trying to get floaters out of the liquid anadrol and damn near boiled a 1/3 of the liquid out. Smh
So I will say this again... I have no affiliation with Victory... I have never felt with hammer.. I know people got scammed and potentionaly Victory can be this hammer... I have prodometly only ordered form him from about February of this year I have never ever received a bottle that was less then filled to the top..I have ordered liquids,capsules, oils. And gh.. I have many of my friends on the same gear. I ordered before they went private and when they came back. I have had bloods done while on his gear. I have never had a floater crashed gear my orders came fast nicely packaged and in full. Now is this to say as with a lot of good things shit goes downhill fast. This is possible.. do I question this being weird that he is now private again. Of course I do.. the floaters inside anadrol . I am not sure about this. First of all his liquids are in everclear so if you are boiling it their would not be anything left. I just kicked off my current cycle with 50mg of His anadrol a day... I got a buddy of mine on his tren a and eq as we speak and he is loving it... I am on a few compounds as I type this... and I have put nice clean weight on my weights are thru the roof and but wait I am getting bloods done in 3 weeks for my trt dr.. so I am with everyone here and I want to make sure we are safe getting clean legitament gear and no one is loosing their hard earn bread.. don’t flame me I am just being honest. If I said how this guy was a peice of shit and he will Scam you I would be dishonest Cauase I have only had good experiences.. also he had the highest following on BOp before he left.. highs than PPL in his prime... but I am seriously considering my next move cause I have to make one..
 
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Ironically Victory and Olympia are both gone from BoP yet again.
true my friend. And when Olympia came back on the scene I couldn’t help but keep looking at the banner and noticing the similarity between the two. The colors of their logos. The Olympia wings they look very close... but Olympia is gone now 2. Very strange yes. But if you follow the site. Flash left in aug, Olympia came back in July/aug Vic left and came back. Vic gone flash is back . Holy shit my head is spinning...
 
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true my friend. And when Olympia came back on the scene I couldn’t help but keep looking at the banner and noticing the similarity between the two. The colors of their logos. The Olympia wings they look very close... but Olympia is gone now 2. Very strange yes. But if you follow the site. Flash left in aug, Olympia came back in July/aug Vic left and came back. Vic gone flash is back . Holy shit my head is spinning...
Vic and Olympia seems to have returned and left at the same time and I didn’t even realize Flash left but just noticed they’re back. Someone said most of the labs at BoP are really Pain and DWBO and other mods there, which wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
 
anything is possible. I am sure that some of those labs are ran by mods. And then their are some ug that try and make a buck... but if you go over and look the labs that have a pretty good following have well known mods as reps... the boards been up since 2013 I think maybe a little longer... I have Laos off the boards for the last 4-5months.. I have become more active over here. Havnt really posted anything over their in the time that I have take. A hiatus... I think their are some pretty good labs floating around here.
 
So I just got scammed if I ordered. I received it quick af. But sounds like I shouldn’t trust it hmm

It's not that Hammer doesn't know how to brew. He does, he's been doing it for a long time. But he's careless and sloppy sometimes, which is why the issues with floaters has plagued him from the beginning.

i personally would inspect every vial, and if i had any doubts, i would refilter it... Knowing it's Hammer, i would probably refilter regardless, just for piece of mind.

Damn yeah I was just trying to get floaters out of the liquid anadrol and damn near boiled a 1/3 of the liquid out. Smh

If it's a liquid suspension, that's normal to see. Even after shaking the solution vigorously.
 
1 leaves and the other pops up, it’s happened a couple times now. I must be a lucky 1, cause I’ve ordered from Victory, and currently running Olympia Test E at 1G. My Dick will NOT GO DOWN. I know that’s the feels report, but I know they have legitimate AAS. Vic’s Liquid Orals are 100% Good.
 
1 leaves and the other pops up, it’s happened a couple times now. I must be a lucky 1, cause I’ve ordered from Victory, and currently running Olympia Test E at 1G. My Dick will NOT GO DOWN. I know that’s the feels report, but I know they have legitimate AAS. Vic’s Liquid Orals are 100% Good.

I ran his Var @ 40mg per day 45min preworkout and had incredible pumps, couldnt even finish some sets. It was my first oral compound so i didnt know what to expect, but thats what I got out of it. That, quick TA's and easy reloadit payment option is the best thing I can say about him at this point.
 
I ran his Var @ 40mg per day 45min preworkout and had incredible pumps, couldnt even finish some sets. It was my first oral compound so i didnt know what to expect, but thats what I got out of it. That, quick TA's and easy reloadit payment option is the best thing I can say about him at this point.
I am sure their are plenty of people on meso that have ran Vic’s gear. When you brew gear and you make 200vials of test 250 you can’t make pick or choose how much hormone is in them. Is less I mean you can dilute some of them with oil but that would be some stupid shit.. I have been reading up on this hammer. Besides selling some gear that was a little questionable with sanitary precautions I am not reading anything about bunk gear. That being said I had a buddy of mine Bree some gear and I got a bottle of deca that had a floater in it. You k ow what I did. I made sure I didn’t suck that thing up in the pin and used it till almost the ends if you use a questionable product and you were gonna get a infection cause of it. It being steril that shot is gonna manifest itself right away ina infection or illness. So I don’t want any but a floater is well whatever. Lol
 
I never ordered from hammer but people have been saying this on asf since victory opened up this isnt new but I will tell you Victory gear is good and ive pretty much ordered everything ran bloods on some stuff. My buddies have ran it too with no complaints but him and Olympia are private again.Im waiting on order of test from olympia my first order from him but havent heard any bad reviews from people I trust.If Victory is hammer he def started caring about brewing a lot more cause hammer I heard was selling nasty infections!
 
He has had tainted gear in the past. Which goes back to what i was saying earlier. He gets careless, and before you know it, he's sending out gear with floaters in it.

Another issue is that his verification for raws consists of a melting point test. So he has no idea how good or bad his raws are. Good today, possibly horrible tomorrow.

Personally, due to his past discretions, i wouldn't feel comfortable injecting his gear. If you guys like it and it's doing what it's supposed to do, then party on, i won't fault you guys for that.

Just be mindful to inspect your vials with a light. Which we all should really be doing, regardless of who we purchased it from.
 
Iits funny this topic has even been brought up. If Vic has this big conspiracy going on that he left bop because he was trying to screw people it would be known. Bop has a big enough following that if Vinci gear or if anything was wrong with it someone or people would be bringing it up to admin over their and they would make it known. Or someone would be posting on it.. the only thing that has been brought up since he left was a new guy brought some tren and complained that is was a light color not a dark color and he was questioning the quality . I have and I know others have ran his tren and it is a very light color. Must be the brewing process. Either way it does what it’s supposed to do. Plus give me one lab that hasn’t had a problem with Rae’s or something wrong at one point with their stuff. The difference is when something goes wrong does the lab make good on it or do they disrespect people and their hard earned money and keep going on like. Nothing has happened... let’s face it we are dealing with guys that brew.. not a big pharmaceutical company m.. stuff is going to happen...
 
Iits funny this topic has even been brought up. If Vic has this big conspiracy going on that he left bop because he was trying to screw people it would be known. Bop has a big enough following that if Vinci gear or if anything was wrong with it someone or people would be bringing it up to admin over their and they would make it known. Or someone would be posting on it.. the only thing that has been brought up since he left was a new guy brought some tren and complained that is was a light color not a dark color and he was questioning the quality . I have and I know others have ran his tren and it is a very light color. Must be the brewing process. Either way it does what it’s supposed to do. Plus give me one lab that hasn’t had a problem with Rae’s or something wrong at one point with their stuff. The difference is when something goes wrong does the lab make good on it or do they disrespect people and their hard earned money and keep going on like. Nothing has happened... let’s face it we are dealing with guys that brew.. not a big pharmaceutical company m.. stuff is going to happen...

BOP has a history of sweeping things under the rug, deleting negative posts, and banning members. Im not going to go into detail about why i posted this, pretty sure i already explained it. Fact of the matter is, Hammer has a history of fucking shit up and then going private to come back rebranded. The email posted here proves that.

If you enjoy Hammer and his gear, by all means keep pinning it, like mister i will not fault you. But for newcomers, This should stand as a warning. You might not get what you ordered, You might get underdosed gear, you might get floaters and an infection. That is all.
 
Love the dishonesty... now I have to throw away a ton of gear

It’s unfortunate that it has to come to that, but it happens sometimes. I sat on AEL gear for 6 months waiting to see how things were panning out on that forums, eventually gooses our $700 with of potentially contaminated shit. Now I bay small batches every months. So if I have to toss a lab brand it won’t be but a few
Benjamins.
 
It’s unfortunate that it has to come to that, but it happens sometimes. I sat on AEL gear for 6 months waiting to see how things were panning out on that forums, eventually gooses our $700 with of potentially contaminated shit. Now I bay small batches every months. So if I have to toss a lab brand it won’t be but a few
Benjamins.
Plus, if you get busted you won't get in as much trouble as the guy dropping a couple stacks on each order. Best thing to do IMO is almost always buy small amounts.
 
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