Warning, Geneza injectables

[naps]

I'm taking care of my customers as well as you take care of the members here. All I was trying to do is inspect that bottle man!

 

[stomps]

I'm taking care of my customers as well as you take care of the members here. All I was trying to do is inspect that bottle man!

Ok if all you wanted to do was inspect the bottle then why the post trying to discredit my claims. And before you say you weren't the post below sure looks like it to me. And there were others but this one sticks out the most to me.

Please either provide high resolution pics or mail the vial back for inspection. May be you are just seeing things! You refused to do both in the PM.

This is what you said.

And I did not refuse to provide a high res pic I told you I would try to borrow a camera if I needed to and you said not to worry about it.

 

[stomps]

If that's the case why did I receive a vial of geneza prop with a copper colored floater in it.

Either way I'm done arguing over this the whole point of the post above was to let members know its not just two products as I got a floater in a vial of prop.
I sincerely hope you take my claim serious and look into for the sake of your customers.

 

[shenky]

Naps rep,

Seriously, you guys could kill it on the market, more than you already are, if you invested a significant amount of money into testing the quality and purity of your gear.

For instance, for every 1000 vials manufactured of Balkan, Geneza, Hardcore Labs, and whoever else you carry, inspect one vial / pack off for any impurities floating in the vial, and send it off to a lab to test its supposed potency. I genuinely think you would be surprised. Geneza has gained a reputation for being "hit or miss" for a reason. I'm not making this up to make you look bad.

I encourage you to scour AAS forums (not eroids) for your reputation, and i think you'll find exactly what I've described. "hit or miss"

 

[flenser]

Naps rep,

Seriously, you guys could kill it on the market, more than you already are, if you invested a significant amount of money into testing the quality and purity of your gear.

For instance, for every 1000 vials manufactured of Balkan, Geneza, Hardcore Labs, and whoever else you carry, inspect one vial / pack off for any impurities floating in the vial, and send it off to a lab to test its supposed potency. I genuinely think you would be surprised. Geneza has gained a reputation for being "hit or miss" for a reason. I'm not making this up to make you look bad.

I encourage you to scour AAS forums (not eroids) for your reputation, and i think you'll find exactly what I've described. "hit or miss"

There are low production x-ray scanners that can inspect EVERY vial for contaminates.

 

[naps]

Naps rep,
Seriously, you guys could kill it on the market, more than you already are, if you invested a significant amount of money into testing the quality and purity of your gear.

Well, we were very excited to start testing our products. We started very expensive tests at a lab in Switzerland. Those lab results you can see on our websites are real. But to our regret it's hard to convince the customers the labs are real. We may start doing this again just for the sake of our loyal customers piece of mind.

 

[Pericles]

here we go again, I need proof of when the gp was not good except those 3-4 products in high concentration. Hope with the free giveaway I started we will be able to see the lab results. As I said there is NO quality issue. Put aside the t400, this was a fuck up yes.

You quoted a sentence out of context in an attempt shirk responsibility. I have been very reasonable so far, even though I still have a big (just not as big as 3 days ago) lump in my ass. Lets put the sentence you quoted back where it belongs:

"Unfortunatelty I didn't save the email from labcorp, but I have the batch number and the vial with some test in it. I can take a picture, if you'd like. Hell, I'd send it to you if it wasn't incriminating (I'm not using the rest of it, that's for sure).

Ask yourself, why would I lie about having shitty GP gear; in the same paragraph I told you my friend had good (or at least decent) tren?.."

 

[Pericles]

I'm taking care of my customers as well as you take care of the members here. All I was trying to do is inspect that bottle man!

Lets step back from assigning blame. If we look at the evidence, there are simply too many of us who have been harmed (from a huge lump in the ass to a 3 day hospital visit) by the GP gear.

While I do believe, Naps, that you are trying to make things right, you are not doing so by trying to discredit the people who have had problems. Again, there are simply too many of us.

Please, just get to the bottom of the problem, don't wast your time arguing w/ members on this forum. We are grateful for the gear, but bad vials dictate a need to step up quality control.

 

[naps]

With all due respect Sir, I need at least some proof. At least the bloodwork to show the “inconsistency”. Put aside the t400 and blends situation. Any lab may fuck up being on the market that long. Even GMP factories release bad batches, it happens. We all remember the ICNs batch tested 120mg one time? Or the lumps from the mexican vet products.

People love talking about GP hit or miss situations however when the bloods are done, the results are always great for some reason. I think we will resume testing the products at the Swiss lab for this reason. I’ve spent 10 years in the business and to say we are manufacturing shitty gear is not right. There are ups and downs yes, especially due to Chinese suppliers quality being unstable but there is no lab that has better guarantees then any other lab in this case. We have reduced this risk to the very minimum by selecting only the best suppliers throughout the years.

I'm not here to argue. Enough with it. We do take care of our customers. This is the only right way to the long term business relations. I hope there will be members participating in the current promo willing to do blood tests and give us an honest feedback on the quality of our standard injectables line. Dozens of orders already accepted and processed.
The problem with the high concentration products will be investigated thoroughly

 

[shenky]

Well, we were very excited to start testing our products. We started very expensive tests at a lab in Switzerland. Those lab results you can see on our websites are real. But to our regret it's hard to convince the customers the labs are real. We may start doing this again just for the sake of our loyal customers piece of mind.

I don't doubt those were real lab tests. But that's the problem - it is ONE lab test. I am suggesting you test one vial and tab/pill out of every 1,000 - 3,000. Not just Geneza either, Hardcore Labs, which is seriously shitty and Balkan are others that should be regularly tested. Expensive, yes, but if you always had high quality gear in every vial, you would never lose a customer.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Still bullshit bro I make high concentration test 450 and it's never did any damage to my filter. I wouldn't even have commented but if he's feeding people these lies he needs to be exposed and if people are getting infections I think it's time to close the doors on Naps infectios gear.

You have HPLC lab analysis to back up a 450mg/ml test concentration? Please post up. There is no one that makes a pain free test concentration that high, without causing some discomfort. Just to get something to hold that high is also difficult. Especially test cypionate. And just because someone gets a knot, doesn't mean the gear is all of a sudden garbage. I don't get pain from any gear I use, including Test Suspension. One I don't inject no more then 250mg/ml in any area. And I won't hit that area again for at least one week. I know when I get a knot once in awhile, its because of the scar tissue, not because of the gear being bad. I am sick and tired of hearing everyone blaming the gear for their problems. You are injecting a foreign substance into your body. Everyone reacts different to every compound. My buddy loves sustanon, but can't use it because he is allergic to Propionate. Same with some oils. People are allergic to carrier oils. Example.. EO

Geneza is retardedly hit or miss. I was on 500mg test cyp ew. After 6 weeks my bloods came back in the mid 800's. I stopped frequenting all forums where Naps is worshipped after that.

On the same order, my friend had their tren with good results. Still, not worth the gamble imo

And what was your test levels before you started? And when was the blood drawn? The next day after your shot? 4 days after your shot? 1 week? That also makes a difference when testing your test levels in your blood.

 

[smiles]

You have HPLC lab analysis to back up a 450mg/ml test concentration? Please post up. There is no one that makes a pain free test concentration that high, without causing some discomfort. Just to get something to hold that high is also difficult. Especially test cypionate. And just because someone gets a knot, doesn't mean the gear is all of a sudden garbage. I don't get pain from any gear I use, including Test Suspension. One I don't inject no more then 250mg/ml in any area. And I won't hit that area again for at least one week. I know when I get a knot once in awhile, its because of the scar tissue, not because of the gear being bad. I am sick and tired of hearing everyone blaming the gear for their problems. You are injecting a foreign substance into your body. Everyone reacts different to every compound. My buddy loves sustanon, but can't use it because he is allergic to Propionate. Same with some oils. People are allergic to carrier oils. Example.. EO



And what was your test levels before you started? And when was the blood drawn? The next day after your shot? 4 days after your shot? 1 week? That also makes a difference when testing your test levels in your blood.

You keep running your little cock sucker, all over this place. One I am fucking injecting properly, same as you, but for some reasoning you bounce back and forth spouting off bullshit, pc also know what he is doing, chase stated that his friend also knows what he is doing... you wanna call everyone pussies over the Internet? That's cool buddy keep it... Makes you look real tuff....

 

[Pericles]

...And just because someone gets a knot, doesn't mean the gear is all of a sudden garbage... I am sick and tired of hearing everyone blaming the gear for their problems. You are injecting a foreign substance into your body. Everyone reacts different to every compound. My buddy loves sustanon, but can't use it because he is allergic to Propionate. Same with some oils. People are allergic to carrier oils. Example.. EO.

Someone did not "just get a knot." They got a very serious infection that required 3 days of hospitalization. You may be sick and tired of people complaining that they were sent to the hospital, but that only proves that you are an idiot. I have to ask, did the Dr that delivered you drop you on your head, or were you already retarded?

I did not simply get a "knot." I got a large knot on my right cheek, and then a huge knot, 7 inches wide, on my left. Why would I post this info if it were not true? I would love, love, love to get a source that gives me free gear. However, not at the risk of my health.

Yes, I am aware of the fact that higher concentrations are problematic. However, I have never gotten any problems from my primary source. Never, not once. I hit a vein once, but that is my fault. Neither have the guys I work with, one of whom is an IFBB pro. I was testing the gear before I put him on it. My hopes were high, because NAPS DOES present access to a lot of less common gear that I want.

I was hoping we could resolve this problem to ensure that it does not happen again, but the incessant attempt by a shill like you; and that is what you are, a shill for dirty gear, proves that there is not going to be a serious attempt at resolving the problem. The only thing I see is a pathetic attempt by you to ignore the problem.

 

[smiles]

I should of went in I showed my sis who has worked in the hospital for 15 years also treated people with abscesses and know what they look like, she hounded me to go in, but I didn't want to, why? Because I live in a small town and I am not gonna get treated like shit, than be known as a gear user, not every one thinks nor likes what I like... So I chose to use my wife's anti-biotics to treat it in the comfort and private of my own home, fuck you for talking shit... I was ducking stocked to do this review, I got my before bloods to compare to the post bloods during cycle had for my log... Was gonna keep up a weekly progress report as well, you are one lucky son of a bitch you are behind a computer, I'm sure you know that, that is why you fell safe talking shit to people... Once again buddy keep it up!!!

 

[Pericles]

With all due respect Sir, I need at least some proof. At least the bloodwork to show the “inconsistency”.... Put aside the t400 and blends situation. Any lab may fuck up being on the market that long.
I hope there will be members participating in the current promo willing to do blood tests and give us an honest feedback on the quality of our standard injectables line. Dozens of orders already accepted and processed.
The problem with the high concentration products will be investigated thoroughly

So, the massive staph infection posted up was not enough proof? The only thing much worse would be death. We have seen plenty, IMO there is no need for further proof. Were I you, i would not be wasting time on a forum telling people that very clear health risks are not cause for concern.

I really wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but based upon what I have seen, Naps is unwilling to to do the proper quality control to prevent these issues.

It is a shame, because you have a lot of items my primary does not have, like TNE.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

So, the massive staph infection posted up was not enough proof? The only thing much worse would be death. We have seen plenty, IMO there is no need for further proof. Were I you, i would not be wasting time on a forum telling people that very clear health risks are not cause for concern.

I really wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but based upon what I have seen, Naps is unwilling to to do the proper quality control to prevent these issues.

It is a shame, because you have a lot of items my primary does not have, like TNE.

That's not what Naps was referring to. He's talking about claims that his gear (not T450, Primo 200 or blends) is inconsistent/under-dosed without proof like labs.

Remaining objective will be more beneficial in trying to get to the bottom of this than letting emotion take over.

CBS

 

[searay]

You keep running your little cock sucker, all over this place. One I am fucking injecting properly, same as you, but for some reasoning you bounce back and forth spouting off bullshit, pc also know what he is doing, chase stated that his friend also knows what he is doing... you wanna call everyone pussies over the Internet? That's cool buddy keep it... Makes you look real tuff....

Guys a piece of work isnt he? Knows how to make friends for sure! I wonder who he will end up being?

 

[smiles]

Guys a piece of work isnt he? Knows how to make friends for sure! I wonder who he will end up being?

Yeah he is, i did fly off the handle there, I shortly realized that was no point dude aint in front of me, the only thing in front if me is my screen and the post I am reading... But I still don't think it's okay for him to talk shit like that.... I just took it a little to far in telling him....

 

[incrediblebulk]

I don't think Italian was referring to the guys who got infections. I think he was saying that some people are crying about a little pip. He just may have picked the wrong place to post this with members in the hospital over geneza gear.

 

[Pericles]

That's not what Naps was referring to. He's talking about claims that his gear (not T450, Primo 200 or blends) is inconsistent/under-dosed without proof like labs.

Remaining objective will be more beneficial in trying to get to the bottom of this than letting emotion take over.

CBS

I am not emotional one bit. I have consistently said that our mission here should not be to stir up what you call "emotion" but instead get to the bottom of the problem. Yes blends and highly concentrated gear are more problematic, but I have used some very smooth test/deca blends and a smooth test 300.

Health risks are much more serious than under dosing. That was the purpose of the original post I made when I started this thread. Please try and stay OT.