Washington’s New Islamic Front

[TheGuy85]

There is no point debating with him, he thinks that Islamic extremists are practicing the true teachings of Islam. They resort to suicide, the killing of innocents, torture, they rise up against their leaders, they wage jihad without justification. These are all things that are forbidden within Islam but he would have you think that these same people are "practicing what their faith dictates and not some perversion of it". He has no knowledge of the minhaj of the Salaf, who are the oldest sect and the only sect that traces itself back to Muhammad himself. He would ignore their teachings and choose to make statements he has no knowledge of. I can't blame him, half the Muslim population is jacked up in their practice of Islam so it comes as no surprise that a person with no formal knowledge of the religion come to the conclusion he has. You have Muslims that have taken to grave worship and other such forbidden practices and these practices lie in MANY Islamic countries, and I believe the only one you will not find it is Saudi Arabia. These people have taken to idolatry yet call themselves Muslim. Those who took to the worship of the golden calf during the absence of Moses (Musa) thought themselves rightly guided, but what was their fate? I am sure someone familiar with the practices of Judaism is familiar with this.

As far as Christianity goes, you can look into writings like the Gospel of Barnabus which points out that Paul was indeed a liar.

"The Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as a Canonical Gospel in the Churches of Alexandria till 325 A.D.

Iranaeus (130-200) wrote in support of pure monotheism and opposed Paul for injecting into Christianity doctrines of the pagan Roman religion and Platonic philosophy. He had quoted extensively from the Gospel of Barnabas in support of his views. This shows that the Gospel of Barnabas was in circulation in the first and second centuries of Christianity.

In 325 A.D., the Nicene Council was held. Where it was ordered that all original Gospels in Hebrew script should be destroyed. An Edict was issued that anyone in possession of these Gospels will be put to death.

In 383 A.D., the Pope secured a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas and kept it in his private library.

In the fourth year of Emperor Zeno (473 A.D.). the remains of Barnabas were discovered and there was found on his breast a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas written by his own hand. (Acia Sanctorum Boland Junii Tom 11. Pages 422 and 450. Antwerp 1698). The famous Vulgate Bible appears to be based on this Gospel.

Pope Sixtus (1585-90) had a friend, Fra Marino, he found the Gospel of Barnabas in the private library of the Pope. Fra Marino was interested because he had read the writings of Iranaeus where Barnabas had been profusely quoted. The Italian manuscript passed through different hands till it reached "a person of great name and authority" in Amsterdam, "who during his life time was often heard to put a high value to this piece". After his death it came in the possession of J.E. Cramer, a Councillor of the King of Prussia. In 1713 Cramer presented this manuscript to the famous connoisseur of books, Prince Eugene of Savoy. In 1738 along with the library of the Prince it found its way into Hofbibliothek in Vienna. There it now rests.

Toland, in his "miscellaneous Works" (published posthumously in 1747), in Vol 1, page 380, mentions that the Gospel of Barnabas was still extant. In Chapter XV he refers to the Glasian Decree of 496 A.D. where "Evangelium Barnabe" is included in the list of forbidden books. Prior to that it had been forbidden by Pope Innocent in 465 A.D. and by the Decree of the Western Churches in 382 A.D.

The Latin text was translated into English by Mr. and Mrs. Ragg and was printed at the Clarendon Press in Oxford. It was published by the Oxford University Press in 1907.

This English translation mysteriously disappeared from the market two copies of this translation are known to exist, one in the British Museum and the other in the Library of the Congress, Washington. The first edition was from a micro-film copy of the book in the Library of the Congress, Washington, which was received through the courtesy of a friend in U.S.A.APPENDIX 1" (Yes this was copy and pasted)

The Gospel of Barnabas - The Christian Bible_Gospel_of_Jesus_Orignally_Barnabus

This type of stuff shakes the very foundation of Christianity.

 

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMraxhd9Z9Q]Christopher Hitchens and Tariq Ramadan Debate: Is Islam a Religion of Peace? | 92Y Talks - YouTube[/ame]

 

[TheGuy85]

"We find in the words of Tariq Ramadan thoughts that reflect the beliefs of Kufr (disbelief) and Shirk (polytheism) of the heretic Sufis. The belief in “Wahdatul Wujood” (unity of existence, meaning that everything is Allaah and Allaah is everything) is a form of pantheism and “al-Hulul” (believing that Allaah is in some creatures), which are heretic beliefs taught by most of the Sufiyyah Turuq in the world today. One should not be surprised to see Tariq showing and expressing these heretic beliefs since the grandfather of Tariq, Hassan al-Banna, was a Sufi of the al-Hisaafiyyah ash-Shaadhiliyyah tariqah that expressed these same beliefs, aswell as Sayyid Qutb who expresses clearly these heretic beliefs in his book “Fi Dhilaal al-Qur’aan” in many places and in particular in his commentary on Surah al-Ikhlaas, aswell as other key figures from Ikhwaan al-Muslimuun (had the same beliefs)."

Tariq Ramadan

You grab up some of the worst people to represent Islam, once again.

Refutation of Tariq Ramadan – Shaykh Usaamah ibn ´Ataayaa al-´Utaybee

http://videos.videopress.com/RyfI6z...ided-individual-preaching-misguidance_std.mp4

"Tariq Ramadan blames the Salafis for being responsible for terrorism! And free and far removed are the scholars and the followers of Salafiyyah from condoning terrorism and the corrupt ideology of the Khawaarij.

It should also suffice us as a confirmation of his misguidance that Tariq Ramadan cooperates with organizations that aggrandize the likes of Hasan al-Banna (who is Tariq Ramadan’s grandfather) and Sayyid Qutb, the revivers of the Khawaarij ideology in the modern era.

Furthemore, Tariq Ramadan has called to leaving off aspects of the Islamic Sharee’ah (such as his infamous call for a “moratorium” on the punishment for adultery legislated by Allaah, subhaanahu wa ta ‘alaa) and abandoning the scholars of the religion. To him, an ideal practice of Islam involves combining Islamic values with the conjecture and doubts of Western philosophers, and he has studied the works of such disbelieving philosophers extensively. In this regard, TIME Magazine “honored” Tariq Ramadan as being one of the most important “innovators” of the 21st century"

 

[TheGuy85]

The Salafee Position on Terrorism, Suicide Bombings, and Hijackings

"Learn what orthodox Salafee Scholars say concerning what has become widespread in contemporary times of the ideologies of terrorism, suicide bombings, and hijackings, protests and revolutions as independent means of reform and societal change, clothed in garb of Islaam and Salafiyyah. These are no more than the sickly outward expressions and practical requirements of the doctrines of the likes of Sayyid Qutb [the Fusionist of Alexis Carrel's "Barbarism", the Leninist Marxist "Revolutionary Vanguard Elite", and Mawdudi's "Raafidee Imaamate"] as exemplified in the actions of contemporary Takfeeri, Jihaadee and Khaarijee renegade sects, masquerading their actions as Islaam and masquerading themselves as Salafiyyah."

salaf.com -:- the salafi da'wah (this link provides several writings concerning terrorism and deviant extremist sects of Islam, and the rulings of the scholars of the Salafi on such matters).

 

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You grab up some of the worst people to represent Islam, once again.



Furthemore, Tariq Ramadan has called to leaving off aspects of the Islamic Sharee’ah (such as his infamous call for a “moratorium” on the punishment for adultery legislated by Allaah, subhaanahu wa ta ‘alaa) and abandoning the scholars of the religion. To him, an ideal practice of Islam involves combining Islamic values with the conjecture and doubts of Western philosophers, and he has studied the works of such disbelieving philosophers extensively. In this regard, TIME Magazine “honored” Tariq Ramadan as being one of the most important “innovators” of the 21st century"

The nerve of that Tariq Ramadan! Imagine, calling for an end to the stoning of adulterers.

This is great. I don't even have to argue with you. You beat yourself with your own words - or those you've plagiarized. LMFAO!!!

 

[nuncaquite]

The nerve of that Tariq Ramadan! Imagine, calling for an end to the stoning of adulterers.

This is great. I don't even have to argue with you. You beat yourself with your own words - or those you've plagiarized. LMFAO!!!

Its only illegal to stone adulterers in the USA because it cuts the lawyers out of
their fee's. There is some merit to this method.

 

[TheGuy85]

The nerve of that Tariq Ramadan! Imagine, calling for an end to the stoning of adulterers.

This is great. I don't even have to argue with you. You beat yourself with your own words - or those you've plagiarized. LMFAO!!!

SO I am assuming you are of no formal religious faith. Stoning is mentioned in Jewish law and Christianity.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17)

I love how you only target Islam with your arguments, yet the same punishments are mentioned in Islam, Judaism, and Christian literature. So Muslims are wrong for not abandoning their religious laws like so many others have done?

I only speak truth, where you speak with ignorance. Why even speak about things you are uneducated in? Leave that to people with better sense.

Lets not forget you made the claim that Islamic extremists are practicing only what Islam encourages. Yet you are wrong. Maybe you can go start a religion with Tariq Ramadan that encourages adultery, fornication, homosexuality, alcoholism, and any other immoral thing you can think of.

 

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SO I am assuming you are of no formal religious faith. Stoning is mentioned in Jewish law and Christianity.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17)

I love how you only target Islam with your arguments, yet the same punishments are mentioned in Islam, Judaism, and Christian literature. So Muslims are wrong for not abandoning their religious laws like so many others have done?

I only speak truth, where you speak with ignorance. Why even speak about things you are uneducated in? Leave that to people with better sense.

Lets not forget you made the claim that Islamic extremists are practicing only what Islam encourages. Yet you are wrong. Maybe you can go start a religion with Tariq Ramadan that encourages adultery, fornication, homosexuality, alcoholism, and any other immoral thing you can think of.

Keep talking, Ahmed. Your true colors are coming through.

 

[TheGuy85]

Your true colors have already been exposed David Duke. I notice you fail to make any comments on Jewish law or even what is in the Bible, don't want to anger Christians or Jews, afraid you might further expose your own bigotry? Your a hypocrite, you only pursue a group already under scrutiny but not others.

 

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Your true colors have already been exposed David Duke. I notice you fail to make any comments on Jewish law or even what is in the Bible, don't want to anger Christians or Jews, afraid you might further expose your own bigotry? Your a hypocrite, you only pursue a group already under scrutiny but not others.

This discussion is about Islam. However, if you can show me examples of Christians or Jews blowing themselves up in the name of their faith, I'll be happy to put them under scrutiny.

I find it odd that you call ME a bigot after your last comment: "Maybe you can go start a religion with Tariq Ramadan that encourages adultery, fornication, homosexuality, alcoholism, and any other immoral thing you can think of."

I'm surprised you left out those pesky Jews. You guys usually blame them for all the evils in the world.

Keep talking, Ahmed. You can't keep up the taqiyya forever.

 

[TheGuy85]

So despite the evidence I gave, you believe suicide bombings are a part of Islamic doctrine. Are you weak minded?

Al-Muwatta 21.9 (Similar proofs in 21.8, 21.10, and 21.11)
Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi from Ibn Umar that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, saw the corpse of a woman who had been slain in one of the raids, and he disapproved of it and forbade the killing of women and children.

Bukhari 2:445

The Prophet said, "Whoever intentionally swears falsely by a religion other than Islam, then he is what he has said, (e.g. if he says, 'If such thing is not true then I am a Jew,' he is really a Jew). And whoever commits suicide with piece of iron will be punished with the same piece of iron in the Hell Fire." Narrated Jundab the Prophet said, "A man was inflicted with wounds and he committed suicide, and so Allah said: My slave has caused death on himself hurriedly, so I forbid Paradise for him."

Bukhari 7:670

The Prophet said, "Whoever purposely throws himself from a mountain and kills himself, will be in the (Hell) Fire falling down into it and abiding therein perpetually forever; and whoever drinks poison and kills himself with it, he will be carrying his poison in his hand and drinking it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever; and whoever kills himself with an iron weapon, will be carrying that weapon in his hand and stabbing his abdomen with it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever."

Muslim #6485

Allah's Messenger said: none amongst you should make a request for death, and do not call for it before it comes, for when any of you dies, he ceases (to do good) deeds and the life of a believer is not prolonged but for goodness.

An-Nisa 4:29

...And do not kill yourselves (nor kill one another)


-Sheikh Ibn 'Uthaymeen-

"What is the ruling regarding acts of jihaad by means of suicide, such as attaching explosives to a car and storming the enemy, whereby he knows without a doubt that he shall die as a result of this action? "

....my opinion is that he is regarded as one who has killed himself (committed suicide), and as a result he shall be punished in Hell, for that which is authenticated on the authority of the Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam).

[((Indeed, whoever (intentionally) kills himself, then certainly he will be punished in the Fire of Hell, wherein he shall dwell forever)), [Bukhaaree (5778) and Muslim (109 and 110)]].

However, one who is ignorant and does not know, and assumes his action was good and pleasing to Allaah (Subhaanahu wa Ta'aala), then we hope Allaah (Subhaanahu wa Ta'aala) forgives him for that which he did out of (ignorant) ijtihaad, even though I do not find any excuse for him in the present day. This is because this type of suicide is well known and widespread amongst the people, so it is upon the person to ask the people of knowledge (scholars) regarding it, until the right guidance for him is differentiated from the error.

... people kill themselves despite Allaah having fordbidden this, as He (Subhaanahu wa Ta'aala) says:

{And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allaah is Most Merciful to you}, [Soorah an-Nisaa., Aayah 29].

And many amongst them do not desire anything except revenge of the enemy, by whatever means, be it halaal or haraam. So they only want to satisfy their thirst for revenge.

Muttaqun OnLine - Suicide: According to Quran and Sunnah

On Jihad

Muttaqun OnLine - Jihad: According to Quran and Sunnah

Educate yourself ignorant one.

Look up Spanish Inquisition and how they burned innocent Jews at the stake, look at the atrocities "Christians" committed during the crusades. Look at what the Protestants did to the American Natives. Look at what the Spanish did to the territories they conquered (for the church right )

HowStuffWorks "How the Spanish Inquisition Worked"

Are you serious, have you not see the war crimes committed by the nation of Israel? Killing Palestinian children is alright in your opinion I guess, Arabs are like animals to you, you racist.

So I guess killing innocent people is okay in your opinion as long as the transgressors don't blow themselves up in the process? Are you serious? Atrocities have been committed in the name of all 3 religions but that is not a proper reflection of any of the 3 religions, yet people twist scripture to their benefit to justify their cause, as you have.

I like how you use "you guys" is that how you speak of black people too? You are obviously a bigot.

 

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So despite the evidence I gave, you believe suicide bombings are a part of Islamic doctrine. Are you weak minded?


Educate yourself ignorant one.

Suicide is forbidden in Islam, martyrdom isn't.


The Qur'an:

Qur'an (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Qur'an (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

Qur'an (2:207) - "And there is the type of man who gives his life to earn the pleasure of Allah..."

Qur'an (61:10-12) "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement."

[The free virgins are mentioned in verses 44:54 and 52:20. And hey, Allah doesn't forget about the diddlers. The "perpetual youth" in verse 6:17 are understood to mean "boys" - verses 52:24 and 76:19. - what a fucking joke for a religion! LMAO]

Qur'an (17:33) "And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right" [This verse is used by Shahid to justify not their only own death but that of innocent bystanders who might be Muslim.]



From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:54) - The words of Muhammad: "I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred."

Muslim (20:4678) - During the battle of Uhud, Muhammad was desperate to push men into battle. He promised paradise for those who would martyr themselves, prompting a young man who was eating dates to throw them away and rush to his death.

Muslim (20:4655) - A man asks Muhammad "which of men is the best?" Muhammad replies that it is the man who is always ready for battle and flies into it "seeking death at places where it can be expected."

Muslim (20:4681) - "Surely, the gates of Paradise are under the shadows of the swords." After hearing Muhammad say that martyrdom leads to paradise, a young man pulls his sword and breaks the sheath (indicating that he has no intention of returning) then flings himself into battle until he is killed.

Muslim (20.4635) - "Nobody who enters Paradise will (ever like to) return to this world even if he were offered everything on the surface of the earth (as an inducement) except the martyr who will desire to return to this world and be killed ten times for the sake of the great honour that has been bestowed upon him."


As I'm sure you're aware, I could list thousands of examples of Muslins who understand the above to encourage suicide "in battle" but it would take up too much space. It seems odd... very odd indeed, that these thousands of examples are really just "misunderstanders of Islam," and we are expected to believe that YOU know the *real* truth. At what point do you admit that "fifty thousand Frenchmen can't be wrong?"

Are you serious, have you not see the war crimes committed by the nation of Israel? Killing Palestinian children is alright in your opinion I guess, Arabs are like animals to you, you racist.

Your bias prevents you from drawing a distinction between gutless Islamists that hide rockets among civilians and use them *intentionally* against Jewish women and children. Actually, I suspect this is another example of taqiyya rather than bias.

Nice ad hominem, though. It really helped to make your case since you were unable to find any examples of Christians or Jews blowing themselves up while shouting "God is great." LMFAO! Keep trying, you just get better and better.

 

[nuncaquite]

Look up Spanish Inquisition and how they burned innocent Jews at the stake, look at the atrocities "Christians" committed during the crusades. Look at what the Protestants did to the American Natives. Look at what the Spanish did to the territories they conquered (for the church right )

HowStuffWorks "How the Spanish Inquisition Worked"

Are you serious, have you not see the war crimes committed by the nation of Israel? Killing Palestinian children is alright in your opinion I guess, Arabs are like animals to you, you racist.

So I guess killing innocent people is okay in your opinion as long as the transgressors don't blow themselves up in the process? Are you serious? Atrocities have been committed in the name of all 3 religions but that is not a proper reflection of any of the 3 religions, yet people twist scripture to their benefit to justify their cause, as you have.

I like how you use "you guys" is that how you speak of black people too? You are obviously a bigot.

Islam has a long memory. Too long. You are going back hundreds of years into Christian history to make your point.
Now go back 100 days into Muslim history. How many atrocity's have occurred in the last 100 days.
Not to be hostile man, but click below for some black people info.
450,000 Christians Flee From Muslim Attacks in the Central African Republic - Atlas Shrugs

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/muslim-somalis-attack-african-american-students-in-minnesota-high-school/

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_Arab_world]Racism in the Arab world - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[TheGuy85]

Islam has a long memory. Too long. You are going back hundreds of years into Christian history to make your point.
Now go back 100 days into Muslim history. How many atrocity's have occurred in the last 100 days.
Not to be hostile man, but click below for some black people info.
450,000 Christians Flee From Muslim Attacks in the Central African Republic - Atlas Shrugs

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/muslim-somalis-attack-african-american-students-in-minnesota-high-school/

Racism in the Arab world - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My point was atrocities have been committed in the name of these religions but it doesn't make it right by the religion. This guy is obviously an idiot, and anything he says is absolute prejudice. I quote the most influential Sheikhs in Saudi Arabia and he picks up some hadith and Qur'an and puts his interpretation or some deviant sect that came after the Salafi. This guy is truly a moron, you make us Americans look bad, did you drop out of high school?

 

[TheGuy85]

Nothing you quoted indicates that suicide bombings equate to martyrdom. If suicide is forbidden why would it be accepted in the case of martyrdom? Sorry jackass, Muslims weren't killing themselves to become martyrs 1400 years ago. You realize how stupid your arguments are, you have provided no evidence to support your beliefs that i haven't adequately refuted. This moron thinks most Muslims attribute to the teachings of terrorist groups instead of the Sheikhs that sit in Saudi Arabia.

Did you get sodomized by some Muslims in prison or something? Is that why you are juicing, so you won't be victimized again? You harbor a lot of hatred and bias towards a group of people and a religion you aren't even educated about. You probably have a GED at best and make less than 20,000 dollars a year, do you also live in a southern state, maybe Mississippi? This guy is truly a religious scholar, everybody give him a round of applause.

 

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Nothing you quoted indicates that suicide bombings equate to martyrdom. If suicide is forbidden why would it be accepted in the case of martyrdom? Sorry jackass, Muslims weren't killing themselves to become martyrs 1400 years ago. You realize how stupid your arguments are, you have provided no evidence to support your beliefs that i haven't adequately refuted. This moron thinks most Muslims attribute to the teachings of terrorist groups instead of the Sheikhs that sit in Saudi Arabia.

Did you get sodomized by some Muslims in prison or something? Is that why you are juicing, so you won't be victimized again? You harbor a lot of hatred and bias towards a group of people and a religion you aren't even educated about. You probably have a GED at best and make less than 20,000 dollars a year, do you also live in a southern state, maybe Mississippi? This guy is truly a religious scholar, everybody give him a round of applause.

Listen numbnuts, you can hurl insults at me until the cows come home and it still won't change the fact that you are a plagiarizing, whiny little twat who is unable to construct a half-way decent argument without cutting and pasting someone else's thoughts.

Two points:
1) You deny suicide bombing is permitted by Islamic scholars
2) You offer Abd ul-'Aziz bin Baz as a "real scholar" in Saudi Arabia

Here is what Abd ul-'Aziz bin Baz has to say about suicide bombing.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoxsjwP-iLs]Sheikh Bin Baz Fatwa justifying Taliban Martyrdom Operations || Blowing up for Jihad || - YouTube[/ame]



Bin Baz on jihad: [Remember, YOU said this nut was a "real" scholar]



What is meant by Jihad? binbaz.org

Bin Baz states:
“It was proven that the prophet -- peace and blessings of Allah be upon him -- collected the Jizya [skull tax] from the Magi of Hajr, so these three kinds of Kufar (Infidels), the Jews, Christians and the Magi, it was written that they should pay Jizya(obligatory skull taxation posed on non Muslims), It is a duty that Jihad should be waged against them and that they be fought when there is a capability until they convert to Islam or pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued, as for others ; it's a duty -- according to the scholars -- to fight them until they convert because the prophet -- peace and blessings of Allah be upon him -- fought the Arabs until they converted in multitudes to the religion of Allah and they were not asked to pay Jizya.

 

[TheGuy85]

Fatwaa: Hijackings, Kidnappings, & Bombings

He (Sh. ‘Abdul-‘Azeez Ibn Baaz) said – may Allaah have mercy on him: All praise is due to Allaah. May prayers and peace be upon the Messenger of Allaah, his family, his Companions, and whoever follows his guidance. It’s well-known to anyone with the slightest amount of common sense that hijacking planes and kidnapping embassy officials and similar acts are some of the greatest universal crimes that result in nothing but widespread corruption and destruction. They place such extreme hardships and injuries upon innocent people, the extent of which only Allaah knows. Likewise, it’s also well-known that the evil and harm of such crimes don’t affect one specific country or group. Rather, the dangers affect the whole world over. No doubt, whenever crimes are of this nature, it becomes obligatory upon the governments and other responsible authorities, such as the scholars and others, to give them the highest of concern and attention and to expend all possible efforts in preventing their evils and in eradicating them. This Fatwaa was taken from a book called “Al-Fataawaa Ash-Shar’iyyah fee Al-Qadhaayaa Al-‘Asriyyah,” a collection of various rulings by Muhammad Ibn Fahd Al-Husayn.2 From Majmoo’ Al-Fataawaa wal-Maqaalaat (1/276).

- Shaykh Abdul-Aziz Bin Baz, Saudi Arabia

The late Shaykh Abdul-Aziz Bin Baz, the former Mufti (verdict giver) of Saudi Arabia, made the following comment about acts of terrorism: “From that which is known to anyone who has the slightest bit of common sense, is that hijacking airplanes and kidnapping children and the like are extremely great crimes, the world over. Their evil effects are far and wide, as is the great harm and inconvenience caused to the innocent; the total effect of which none can comprehend except Allah.

Likewise, from that which is known is that these crimes are not specific to any particular country over and above another country, nor any specific group over and above another group; rather, it encompasses the whole world.

There is no doubt about the effect of these crimes; so it is obligatory upon the governments and those responsible from amongst the scholars and others to afford these issues great concern, and to exert themselves as much as possible in ending this evil.”

https://sinningslave.wordpress.com/about/

Why is this clip only 53 seconds long, this is obviously not a full commentary given by the Sheikh if it is actually even authentic at all. More propaganda coming out your ass.

You keep up this arguement about copying and pasting, but all your doing is posting shitty YouTube videos and copying and pasting text, you hypocritical bone smuggler. The only whiny bitch here is you, pissing and moaning about how terrible Islamic teachings are when your as ignorant of Islamic teachings as they come.

Binbaz.org ,thanks for the broken link you moron. How am I plagiarizing, I never claimed any of the statements as my own.

 

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EDITORIAL: Destroy all churches - Washington Times
Obama silent while Saudi grand mufti targets Christianity

Saudi grand mufti targets Christianity

If the pope called for the destruction of all the mosques in Europe, the uproar would be cataclysmic. Pundits would lambaste the church, the White House would rush out a statement of deep concern, and rioters in the Middle East would kill each other in their grief. But when the most influential leader in the Muslim world issues a fatwa to destroy Christian churches, the silence is deafening.

On March 12, Sheik Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah, the grand mufti of Saudi Arabia, declared that it is “necessary to destroy all the churches of the region.” The ruling came in response to a query from a Kuwaiti delegation over proposed legislation to prevent construction of churches in the emirate. The mufti based his decision on a story that on his deathbed, Muhammad declared, “There are not to be two religions in the [Arabian] Peninsula.” This passage has long been used to justify intolerance in the kingdom. Churches have always been banned in Saudi Arabia, and until recently Jews were not even allowed in the country. Those wishing to worship in the manner of their choosing must do so hidden away in private, and even then the morality police have been known to show up unexpectedly and halt proceedings.

This is not a small-time radical imam trying to stir up his followers with fiery hate speech. This was a considered, deliberate and specific ruling from one of the most important leaders in the Muslim world. It does not just create a religious obligation for those over whom the mufti has direct authority; it is also a signal to others in the Muslim world that destroying churches is not only permitted but mandatory.

The Obama administration ignores these types of provocations at its peril. The White House has placed international outreach to Muslims at the center of its foreign policy in an effort to promote the image of the United States as an Islam-friendly nation. This cannot come at the expense of standing up for the human rights and religious liberties of minority groups in the Middle East. The region is a crucial crossroads. Islamist radicals are leading the rising political tide against the authoritarian, secularist old order. They are testing the waters in their relationship with the outside world, looking for signals of how far they can go in imposing their radical vision of a Shariah-based theocracy. Ignoring provocative statements like the mufti’s sends a signal to these groups that they can engage in the same sort of bigotry and anti-Christian violence with no consequences.

Mr. Obama’s outreach campaign to the Muslim world has failed to generate the good will that he expected. In part, this was because he felt it was better to pander to prejudice than to command respect. When members of the Islamic establishment call for the religious equivalent of ethnic cleansing, the leader of the free world must respond or risk legitimizing the oppression that follows. The United States should not bow to the extremist dictates of the grand mufti, no matter how desperate the White House is for him to like us.

 

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It is not permissible for any of the disbelievers to live in the Hijaz. Abu Dawud narrated with his isnad from Umar that he heard the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) say: “I will certainly expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula, and I will not leave anyone there but Muslims.” Al-Tirmidhi said: this is a sahih hasan hadith. And it was narrated that Ibn Abbas said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) left behind three instructions. He said: Expel the mushrikeen from the Arabian Peninsula, honor the delegations the way that I do, and he kept quiet about the third. Narrated by Abu Dawud. Al-Mughni, 9/285, 286

Non-muslims are not to take up residence in the Arabian Peninsula, but this is only limited to the Arabian Peninsula. This does not call for an ethnic cleansing or slaughter of Christians or Jews. But they are to be deported from the peninsula. But you are correct Islamic extremists would use something like this to justify violence against Jews and Christians, and the destruction of their places of worship even in Islamic countries where they are permitted to practice their religion freely (Islamic countries outside the Arabian Peninsula). These extremists are not welcome in the Arabian Peninsula either, these same people issued a death fatwa on the Saudi King for meeting with the Pope. And lets not forget the bombings in Riyadh.

Saudi Arabia’s Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah al-Sheikh also said “Suicide bombings are great crimes” and the bombers are “criminals who rush themselves to hell by their actions.”