Weak ejaculation & reduced urine stream?

[HamstersInTheMist]

trying to make this an easy read...

Well trained full time aerobic athlete with perfect diet and lives like a robot, ie same diet and training and timing every single day.
no drinking no smoking no drugs. no other health issues, near perfect labs before starting.

Just started first cycle (1 & done) of 125mg test E + 50mg primo E every 72hrs along with 7.5mg anavar twice a day (pre workout and 12hrs later).
Noticed immediately, with 24hrs, weaker ejaculation in terms of volume, pulsating/contractions & “satisfaction” as well as slightly reduced urine stream pressure/velocity.
next 24hrs same thing but slightly more, another 24hrs same thing, and it keeps getting worse. Still hard as a rock and have full sensation and desire but very little comes out, the pulsations are very weak and feel terribly unsatisfied upon completion. urinating has plateaued at what is not a medical concerningly slow rate but its always like that weak stream you have after you cum and its like ive lost that pelvic floor control to “squirt” the last bit of piss out.

No other side effects. feel great physically and mentally. huge performance increase as well as reduced water weight. but this symptom is concerning, especially to have it instantly.

anyone else experience this? what was the problem?
thanks

 

[DugPrime]

Get your E2/prolactin checked. Also, Primo might be causing BPH, which could be the reason for your reduced urine stream pressure. Cialis should help with that.

 

[Big_paul]

trying to make this an easy read...

Well trained full time aerobic athlete with perfect diet and lives like a robot, ie same diet and training and timing every single day.
no drinking no smoking no drugs. no other health issues, near perfect labs before starting.

Just started first cycle (1 & done) of 125mg test E + 50mg primo E every 72hrs along with 7.5mg anavar twice a day (pre workout and 12hrs later).
Noticed immediately, with 24hrs, weaker ejaculation in terms of volume, pulsating/contractions & “satisfaction” as well as slightly reduced urine stream pressure/velocity.
next 24hrs same thing but slightly more, another 24hrs same thing, and it keeps getting worse. Still hard as a rock and have full sensation and desire but very little comes out, the pulsations are very weak and feel terribly unsatisfied upon completion. urinating has plateaued at what is not a medical concerningly slow rate but its always like that weak stream you have after you cum and its like ive lost that pelvic floor control to “squirt” the last bit of piss out.

No other side effects. feel great physically and mentally. huge performance increase as well as reduced water weight. but this symptom is concerning, especially to have it instantly.

anyone else experience this? what was the problem?
thanks

Get knew lab work. Start there. I haven't heard many complaints from the aas you are using. You are using a relatively low dosage .

 

[Leg_locker]

Does kind of sound like BPH like mentioned above. 5-10mg daily Cialis is a great addition to any cycle and could solve the problem. It may resolve itself overtime as your body adjusts to the hormones.

 

[HamstersInTheMist]

I have not come across bph/prostate issues related to these compounds in my research, this is the first im hearing about that, and from 2 people right off that bat. It sure sounds like this is whats happening tho if besides the 40-50% weaker stream and the extremely weak pulsations are related to that and not some sort of more common neuromuscular/parasympathetic related issues from the compounds to my pelvic floor?

I don’t believe i have high or low e2 symptoms from what ive read or reading, prolactin is unlikely to be super high since i can instantly get rock hard.

I happen to be BPH/prostate sensitive to these compounds and that is “a thing”, that would mean that adjusting my primo dosage to fine tune my e2 levels if they are slightly out of range will not fix my symptom? I would have to add another compound like the aforementioned cialis? I will stop cold turkey today and not take another thing if i am a hyper responder who is going to have a realistic chance at facing life long or speed up prostate/urinary issues.

I truly appreciate the advice here, i am extremely concerned about my situation and dont want any long term side effects. I know i was opening a can of worms sticking a needle in but i thought i was doing everything as intelligently as possible to avoid problems like this.

 

[nullandvoid]

I've had this issue for a few years and can confirm, at least in my case, that a reduction in Primo restores function. Still full erections, libido is fine... but urine stream is reduced, and ejaculate is far reduced in force and volume. I often deal with urethral irritation because it seems to get "stuck." This is at 25mg of Primo E daily, which unfortunately does a great job of E2 control (for me). However, I will say that it takes only a small reduction to effect improvement. I'm going to drop back to 20mg a day and try and tweak my hCG dose down in tandem. The hCG keeps my nuts from aching; otherwise I wouldn't use it.

I am very familiar with that feeling of dissatisfaction on completion. It's somewhat like constipation. The times I've dialed Primo back and had improvement, ejaculation just feels so much better... you really appreciate the term "full release."

Forgot to mention, I've never really gotten much from Cialis. I currently take it on faith at 20mg as part of pre-workout, but I've taken it so long, I have no idea if it does anything anymore.

 

[ackmack78]

Those amounts are so low, its barely a cycle. More like sports trt. Usual recommendation is to start with just test for your first cycle so you can gauge how your body responds to just test.

 

[narta]

What's your age?

 

[6tren]

It's your prostate due to all the DHT steroids you're using, var, test and primo

 

[HamstersInTheMist]

It's your prostate due to all the DHT steroids you're using, var, test and primo

whats the recommendation to proceed? cut the primo dosage in half to only 60mg a week total and raise test from 290 to 320 a week and keep anavar the same? im 32 yrs old. psa was 1.1 before starting. im sure if i cut out the primo completely id have to add something to control the e2…?

 

[rebornmuscles]

If your products are legit try to stop the anavar and see if you have any improvement, do the same with primo and tell us,
If it don't work maybe try to up your test dosage and finally if nothing works stop all the compounds or change the brand of products

 

[6tren]

whats the recommendation to proceed? cut the primo dosage in half to only 60mg a week total and raise test from 290 to 320 a week and keep anavar the same? im 32 yrs old. psa was 1.1 before starting. im sure if i cut out the primo completely id have to add something to control the e2…?

Find non DHT steroids like eq, nandrolone, tren, trest, dbol, adrol, etc.
Decrease all until you can urinate normally
Cialis also helps with BPH and prostate issues

 

[ackmack78]

I would just bump the test to 400, drop the primo or leave it in at 60 if you have to run it and save the anavar for the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle and up the anavar when you do add it in. The doses you're doing are so low your barely going supra physiological if that.

Whats the purpose of this cycle?

 

[Naugahyde]

24 hours is a very rapid onset of bph symptoms, especially on the small doses you're on. I'd have thought it would take much longer on to impact the size of your prostate/urine flow, but I'm not qualified to say it's not possible. Took me over 4 years on trt before I had bph issues, though I am also in an older risk group. Fyi I take finasteride & Cialis 5mg pd. Helps a bit but not enough. Bph sucks thats for certain!

 

[HamstersInTheMist]

the purpose of this cycle was to recomp/cut 15lbs of fat, didnt need a gram of gear to keep MPS active and stay out of a catabolic state, as endurance athlete i dont want to put on a lot of weight regardless. Also chose these compounds and amounts as intelligent/safe amounts id almost certainly have no ill effects from and could titrate up should i desire to do so.
That said, as far as my research went, the only genital related symptoms that are common are of course reduced testicle size, which i deff noticed last night and erection issues/reduced load size which i only partially experience.

I skipped my 3rd injection that was due this morning so it has been 72hrs since my last injection and my urine flow/power is back up to about 80% of what it was as well as ejaculation intensity is also something like 50% of what it was instead of 10%. Just got blood taken which ill report back with.

Frustrating to put a lot of time energy and jumping thru hoops to make this cycle happen then to have this problem instantly. I do have arimidex and nolvadex on hand. If labs come back with good prolactin and e2 in range then theres no explanation i can come up with outside of what your saying here about some guys just get prostate irritated and i suppose ill be forced to stop cold turkey. **want to add that i have zero irritation feeling, swelling/new sensations in/around that area. everything “feels” normal.
Please stay tuned for blood work results in about 4hrs

 

[HamstersInTheMist]

Alright so numbers before cycle and 52hrs after the 2nd injection of 125mg test e + 50mg primo and 7.5mg anavar twice daily.

Test 885, post 1050
Free test 14, post 10.2
Shbg 56, post 27
E2 27, post 33.5
Prolactin post only 9.07
PSA 1.1, post 1.4 (alarming???)


So curious about how my total test went up slightly but free test reduced by 40% yet shbg came way down to nearly ideal as I was anticipating with the use of anavar to help that.

Didn’t have a prolactin before but it’s still in range. And e2 went up slightly but is perfectly fine.


Is PSA jumping way up in a week like that explain the irritation or do I have cancer now?


Thoughts on to proceeds or can the whole thing and go back to natty.

 

[ackmack78]

Well you found out your cycle wasn't a cycle. Seems pointless to shut yourself down for a gain of less than 200ng/dl. You already had great test levels naturally, should have left well enough alone or gone big.

Can't say much about the PSA I'm 40 mines only 0.6 & after an 18 week blast last year went up to 0.9 then right back down after. You'd need more time to watch your PSA, like check it every 4-6 weeks to see if it keeps rising, if you're that worried about it. If it jumps to 1.4 but then stays there the whole time I doubt it's cause for concern

 

[HamstersInTheMist]

in my post above, i incorrectly wrote the new free T number which i dont actually have. so we do not know my “on cycle” free T, ignore the 10.2 number...


Anyways, if i keep going id drop the DHT primo which is obviously causing my urinary/prostate issues and double the test by its self. My nuts have continued to shrink today to probally 65% of original size which is disheartening so i would want to add in HCG, ill be aromatizing like crazy won 500 test without the planned primo to control e2 so ill certainly have to be on an AI. assuming my prostate/urinary issues go away on this much test.
side note, my urinary and ejaculation symptoms are almost completely gone and back to normal already so this is 100% the cause, not a STD or UTI etc etc.

This is causing me too much stress and unknowns and since the initial cycle had side effects i think it would be best for my health to pull the plug and call it quits. I only did two shots so my journey back to natty recovery should be very quick and i know it varies wildly from person to person but im putting out the positive energy here and hope it works out. Please make the positive assumption that ill have a reasonably fast and problem free recovery in your reply to the following..

I have arimidex and nolvadex on hand for what was the planned pct eventually. i stopped cold turkey on the roids about 90hrs ago from the 2nd shot, should i just start on the nolvadex right now at 20mg a day instead of waiting for my current test levels to drop more? Ive always had puffy nips unless i was cold so id like to error on the side of keeping the e2 on the lower side of things or favoring extra gyno protection here.

Please recommend your “fast easy” recovery pct with these 2 items. I will not be using clomid/enclo do to risk of eye issues (i already have very annoying floaters)

many thanks gents.

 

[Alert_Custard]

Just take tamoxofen 20mg a day for 6 to 8 weeks. If you feel shit after that, do a blood test, see where you are at, and if test is low, keep taking tamoxifen for longer.

 

[ackmack78]

Just take tamoxofen 20mg a day for 6 to 8 weeks. If you feel shit after that, do a blood test, see where you are at, and if test is low, keep taking tamoxifen for longer.

After only two injections I doubt he's even fully shutdown. I wouldn't bother with any pct drugs and then pull labs in 4-6 weeks