Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[Dr JIM]

Doesn't even matter anymore after what he just revealed about saving info..

TODAY MESO WINS!!

I must admit your rightJB BUT for the sake of "fairness", since K said he's already posted this supportive data, shit JB isn't it possible we ALL overlooked this important piece of evidence?

Well NO, lol!

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Jeez dude, its clear that either you have no fucking reading comprehension skills whatsoever or you could care less about finding the truth in this matter. For the 10th and last time, post the specific fucking tests that you want Karl to provide. If you do that and he doesn't post them, then guess what, you win. If you continue to ignore these requests by me and multiple other respected members(i.e. mands) then you are nothing but an agitator and serve no purpose on this thread. This thread has become completely pointless and is just going round in circles. Post the damn list of the tests you want from Karl!

Why would it even matter anymore? You've been around a long time and know what he did is unforgivable!!

 

[Dr JIM]

I must admit your rightJB BUT for the sake of "fairness", since K said he's already posted this supportive data, shit JB isn't it possible we ALL overlooked this important piece of evidence?

Well NO, lol!

Alright muscle head-96 is your reading comprehension lacking, yep!

Hint I've asked for this info several times before and since KARL manufactures GH he should KNOW what tests ARE REQUIRED.

Moreover these tests SHOULD have been posted by Karl from the outset, not AFTER I've determined, the data which he did eventually post, revealed the sample was NOT GH.

Oh but I've mentioned THAT SEVEN TIMES before!Why did you miss it musclehead?

So get off your lazy ass and read my prior posts where I clearly define what is deemed PROOF a compound is indeed rHGH. But then again you could always ask Karl, lol!

Other wise kiss off shill!

 

[muscle96ss]

Alright muscle head-96 is your reading comprehension lacking, yep!

Hint I've asked for it before and since KARL manufactures GH he should KNOW what tests ARE REQUIRED.

So get off your lazy ass and read my prior posts where I clearly define what is deemed PROOF a compound is indeed rHGH.

Other wise kiss off shill!

Wow, so now he is supposed to tell you what tests he needs to provide. I knew you were a fucking assclown and just blowing up this thread to try and stroke your ego. You act like your a good guy and here to protect the members from bad guy Karl because thats what Meso stands for, when its clear you could care less about the members here and have an agenda of your own. I think the majority of the people reading this are in total agreement of what I have posted and can see through your charade but probably are afraid to voice their opinion and face the wrath of going against the grain of a few outspoken members. Its a shame because you did have some valid points and it would be nice to get a resolution where we can put this issue to rest and focus on continued testing of this product. But obviously going any further in this thread is a complete waste of time because you will never allow it to actually become productive.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Jeez dude, its clear that either you have no fucking reading comprehension skills whatsoever or you could care less about finding the truth in this matter. For the 10th and last time, post the specific fucking tests that you want Karl to provide.

There is a definite lack of reading comprehension in this thread. You and a few others seem unable to comprehend what the issue is and it's frustrating as hell because it allows Karl's obfuscations to continue.

I'll try this again for the 10th and last time: THUS FAR, Karl has posted NO analytical data on HIS GH. Not so much as a single test result showing that he has successfully made hGH . If K was capable of making hGH as pure as that found in Mands' test, he would have HAD to do EXTENSIVE testing on that GH. The fact that he WILL NOT or CAN NOT provide ANY of those tests should lead any *thinking* person to conclude that he is NOT making GH. It's really that simple, Muscles.

If you do that and he doesn't post them, then guess what, you win.

One would think that would be the case, wouldn't one? Unfortunately, you and a few others are either unable or unwilling to comprehend the fact that the requests have already been made - MULTIPLE TIMES - and K HAS NOT posted them, and therefore, he HAS lost.

If you continue to ignore these requests by me and multiple other respected members(i.e. mands) then you are nothing but an agitator and serve no purpose on this thread. This thread has become completely pointless and is just going round in circles. Post the damn list of the tests you want from Karl!

For the eleventh time, we are asking for K's analytical data that he would have HAD to acquire during his supposed manufacturing process of hGH. IOW, test results that show he actually produced GH.

Now, if YOU continue to ignore the fact that these requests (for K's analytical data) by me and multiple other respected members (i.e. Jim, Lightspan) have been made and gone unanswered, then you are nothing but an agitator and serve no purpose on this thread.

 

[muscle96ss]

There is a definite lack of reading comprehension in this thread. You and a few others seem unable to comprehend what the issue is and it's frustrating as hell because it allows Karl's obfuscations to continue.

I'll try this again for the 10th and last time: THUS FAR, Karl has posted NO analytical data on HIS GH. Not so much as a single test result showing that he has successfully made hGH . If K was capable of making hGH as pure as that found in Mands' test, he would have HAD to do EXTENSIVE testing on that GH. The fact that he WILL NOT or CAN NOT provide ANY of those tests should lead any *thinking* person to conclude that he is NOT making GH. It's really that simple, Muscles.





One would think that would be the case, wouldn't one? Unfortunately, you and a few others are either unable or unwilling to comprehend the fact that the requests have already been made - MULTIPLE TIMES - and K HAS NOT posted them, and therefore, he HAS lost.




For the eleventh time, we are asking for K's analytical data that he would have HAD to acquire during his supposed manufacturing process of hGH. IOW, test results that show he actually produced GH.

Now, if YOU continue to ignore the fact that these requests (for K's analytical data) by me and multiple other respected members (i.e. Jim, Lightspan) have been made and gone unanswered, then you are nothing but an agitator and serve no purpose on this thread.

Wow, here goes the circle again. This thread has almost 1000 posts and the posts discussing the various analysis of the lab tests and anything to do with the lab tests is on a level that I do not understand, most people reading this do not understand, and Karl probably does not understand without the help of his professor(because after all Karl sells the GH while his people with knowledge manufacture the GH, or at least he claims). So why is it so difficult to simply say, "Karl here is a list of specifically what we want from you.". How much time would that take? Why can't anyone do that? Is that asking too much? Seriously, come on guys, talk about being evasive!! This whole lynch mob has become ridiculous. You want data from Karl, lets not go back and reread every single fucking post in this thread. Lets get on the same page right here and right now!! List the damn tests you want from Karl!! If you are incapable of doing that then you have no reason to complain. Can we stop the madness, get reasonable, and get on with this?

 

[muscle96ss]

Oh, and for the people that are complaining about Karl keeping people's information. Please go back and reread that last couple of pages. Here is a summary of what happened. Karl does not believe that JB ordered directly from him or had any contact with him complaining about his products. Therefore Karl asked JB for an e-mail as proof or for his e-mail address as with his e-mail address he has proof that there was some contact because he saves e-mail addys for a mailing list or problems like this. Nowhere did he state that he saves the content of the e-mails and in fact in his reply Karl states that he does not save any data just the addy. Unfortunately the lynch mob is so set on getting Karl, that they are now twisting his words to suit their needs.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Oh, and for the people that are complaining about Karl keeping people's information. Please go back and reread that last couple of pages. Here is a summary of what happened. Karl does not believe that JB ordered directly from him or had any contact with him complaining about his products. Therefore Karl asked JB for an e-mail as proof or for his e-mail address as with his e-mail address he has proof that there was some contact because he saves e-mail addys for a mailing list or problems like this. Nowhere did he state that he saves the content of the e-mails and in fact in his reply Karl states that he does not save any data just the addy. Unfortunately the lynch mob is so set on getting Karl, that they are now twisting his words to suit their needs.

Funny, that's not what I heard him say when you look at the context of his posts after that.. But what does it matter? If he saves info he saves info!!

Why are you all about defending sources all of a sudden?? Surely don't sound like the guy who's posts I've enjoyed on other boards..

 

[Flounder]

OK muscle96 perhaps you can explain why K, who says he manufactures "better than pharma" gh, has yet to produce ANY test performed from within the confines of this miracle factory he says he's running. You do know to product the world's best Heisenberg gh ever there would need to be an immense # of tests ran. How about K post any test. Anything. He has yet to produce any in house testing to verify he is actually making anything. Show us something. Anything.

 

[muscle96ss]

Funny, that's not what I heard him say.. But what does it matter? If he saves info he saves info!!

Why are you all about defending sources all of a sudden?? Surely don't sound like the guy who's posts I've enjoyed on other boards.. b

I'm not anti-source or pro-source, I am about doing whats right and always have been. I also wouldn't say I support Karl(I'm still on the fence), I just think he needs to be given a fair chance. Unfortunately, there has been some bad blood between sciroxx and Meso in the past which has led to an initial bias. I always go with both logic and my gut. I am not sold 100% that Karl is manufacturing this stuff from scratch(which is why I would like to see a resolutiuon in this thread), but I do believe what he is shipping is pharm grade quality and will continue to be for a while. I believe this based on what I have learned over the past 6 months in dealing with Karl where we have shared probably several hundred e-mails or PM's over that time; which I have summarized earlier in this thread.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I'm not anti-source or pro-source, I am about doing whats right and always have been. I also wouldn't say I support Karl(I'm still on the fence), I just think he needs to be given a fair chance. Unfortunately, there has been some bad blood between sciroxx and Meso in the past which has led to an initial bias. I always go with both logic and my gut. I am not sold 100% that Karl is manufacturing this stuff from scratch(which is why I would like to see a resolutiuon in this thread), but I do believe what he is shipping is pharm grade quality and will continue to be for a while. I believe this based on what I have learned over the past 6 months in dealing with Karl where we have shared probably several hundred e-mails or PM's over that time; which I have summarized earlier in this thread.

And all of that communication has give you BIAS!! Think about it..

 

[muscle96ss]

OK muscle96 perhaps you can explain why K, who says he manufactures "better than pharma" gh, has yet to produce ANY test performed from within the confines of this miracle factory he says he's running. You do know to product the world's best Heisenberg gh ever there would need to be an immense # of tests ran. How about K post any test. Anything. He has yet to produce any in house testing to verify he is actually making anything. Show us something. Anything.

I agree, so call him out; which specific test would you like him to post? Do you guys see what I am getting at? Make it easy for him, name a test he should have. Either he will post it or he will look bad and you have something substantial to back it up with. But the way this thread is going you haven't proven that he is not manufacturing because of the methodology in which you have attacked Karl.

 

[muscle96ss]

And all of that communication has give you BIAS!! Think about it..

No, its helped me understand Karl better. I know he is a salesman but I also believe he is a good person with good intentions. Like I have stated before, me and Karl have gone at it with each other on numerous occasions, in fact it was probably less than a month ago when he was being evasive with me and I took it public and we went at it. I kind of stayed out of this thread for a while until I saw a beating that was occurring that I don't think was warranted. I tend to stick my neck out when I see something like that.

 

[Dr JIM]

I agree, so call him out; which specific test would you like him to post? Do you guys see what I am getting at? Make it easy for him, name a test he should have. Either he will post it or he will look bad and you have something substantial to back it up with. But the way this thread is going you haven't proven that he is not manufacturing because of the methodology in which you have attacked Karl.

Ok here are the tests I need performed!
1) CRP
2) CMP
3) ESR
4) FSBS
5) PCR
6) CBC

Oh because of the imperiled condition of this thread these tests must be obtained and posted STAT (within ONE hour)

I'll may need to add a few more tests depending upon the condition of this thread and K in the AM!

Dr JBB "the doc that's not a doc", lol!

 

[Flounder]

I agree, so call him out; which specific test would you like him to post? Do you guys see what I am getting at? Make it easy for him, name a test he should have. Either he will post it or he will look bad and you have something substantial to back it up with. But the way this thread is going you haven't proven that he is not manufacturing because of the methodology in which you have attacked Karl.

I will say there has been some very technical material discussed on this thread which I don't understand. But that doesn't mean I can't interpret what it is I have seen or a lack thereof. The most glaring issue I see there is no proof K is producing what he is selling. It is up to K to prove to Meso he is selling "better than pharm" gh then for us Meso members to disprove he is selling this gh. In what business model have you seen what you are asking of Meso members? Having to prove a supplier of any product isn't actually selling said product. Meso isn't the Better Business Bureau or Consumer Reports. The onus lies on K to prove what he say's he is selling. Just show us a test. But this may be all moot point now that word is out K keeps emails for whatever reasons.

 

[dnml]

Ok here are the tests I need performed!
1) CRP
2) CMP
3) ESR
4) FSBS
5) PCR
6) CBC

Oh because of the imperiled condition of this thread these tests must be obtained and posted STAT (within ONE hour)

I'll may need to add a few more tests depending upon the condition of this thread and K in the AM!

Dr JBB "the doc that's not a doc", lol!

Fucking called it. Feet put to the fire and he FINALLY gives a list... of un-meetable demands. Such an asshat. K (with JBs help) was doing a pretty good job of hanging himself, then here comes the Retard Whisperer.

 

[brutus79]

Man you wink at me a lot.

How youuuuu doing?

But on the serious note I just wanted to keep meso classy. This aruging is not really leading to anything...If you truly don't like him then there is nothing anybody can say or do to change your mind and if you want to give his products a shot then again non of these bashes will change your mind. Deep down you've already made up your mind on giving him a try and that's it.

This from the guy who just had the.ignorance necessary to compare testosterone manufacturing to rhgh manufacturing... ugl oils and ugl rhgh are not apples to apples my friend. Have fun getting your personal info stored with Karl.

 

[dnml]

@johnnyBALLZ: I thought your gyno was from the other K's bunk (not putting you on blast here just making sure I'm not miss remembering)

 

[dnml]

@Western-Biotech: what good would it possibly do to save email addys only in case of a missing order, gear, etc?? This doesn't make sense- are you saying you would just cross reference an email addy with no order details and say, "Ok, you ordered, here's your 1000ius that never showed up"??

 

[Western-Biotech]

What DNML ? I said I use it for mess mails..

Now why the fuck would I keep Fn evidences ?????? would u shoot yourself in the leg ? any order is permanently deleted, JB posts shit and u follow him like Fn sheep

JB also has never talked to me or he would be the first to prove it from start, he's repeatedly lie and mislead anyone, and he abuses this place, cause on any other forum he would be kicked out after the first lie he can't refute, on this place he may post any shit and laugh, above all laugh on you the other members