Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[flenser]

Again - if anyone here has dealt with me pls back up, I wanna hear one guy, ONE GUY, say -
I ordered from Karl, I may prove I paid him, I send info to millard so he may confirm this, and have got bunk, I wanna hear this ! if there was an issue, and there have been unfortunately with GH from China, I repalced products, and made sure the customer is happy and reports back he is.

This is funny (I look for a better word, but my english is not good enough), that u rely on other supplier reports who has a sheer clear obvious interest to put a blame for his lies on me, and could do it as there was no Karl here. This is why I personally logged in here.

As another comment - Sciroxx is the most faked brand out there, fakes are coming from Mexico, Europe (especially Greece), and USA as shippers got labels from us in the past, no more ! I'm here to take responsibility on any claim I put here, in person

I got mine from your rogue brewer. Are you going to tell me he bought fake Sciroxx var from Mexico because he was pissed at you?

 

[Kubrick]

Your primo is trash too. I got fucked out of $500. I know there was trouble with shippers but it's the method you chose to operate. Karl=Sciroxx in my opinion. I'm sure if you got fucked by my company, you wouldn't trust me, right? Make sense? This board has been fucked by YOUR company's operating procedures. I don't give a fuck what you call this new company, the common ground is you, Karl. You are Sciroxx and Sciroxx ended up on a lot of people's shit list. You owe people good GH? What about all the other shit people have bought and got fucked on?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I trust mands and maybe he knows something I don't or he has had a vastly different experience than dozens of other vocal members here..

Last time you were here 6 months or so ago Karl you vowed to be here day in day out to sort through the mess you created here with Sciroxx.. That lasted less than 24 hours and speaks directly to your character..

You fucked me a year and a half ago, I brought it to your attention and you basically told me tough luck..

You're a legend in your own mind with your "many thousands of followers" but you're a joke here..

 

[dper726]

I don't even know why people are not stirring enough at the claims of the gh being FDA standards from the original post...... Or the million of dollars in investment into an operation for the black market.

If I had million of dollars I'll invest in property or more secure means of a return then an amatuer community of aspiring bodybuilders.

Things still don't make sense here.

 

[Western-Biotech]

Both of u guys are right, I'm not familiar with your claims and this is not relevant to this thread, but I owe u a reply.

Anyone who got a product from me has full back up from me. It's impossible to monitor now what a supplier did with you. When I was alerted that there is an issue, and things may be out of my control I stopped cooeprating with this supplier, and this is known

I came here is person to take full responsibility to anything I release to market

Again - anyone who's ever dealt with me got great quality, if there were issues there were fixed immediately incl' compensation.

Indeed lessons were learned -
I have full direct personal control over the manufacturing (no more Chinese bunk, I own the facility, I'm there is person, I have full quality control unit). I ensure in person what is sent and to who (no greedy shippers who are 10000 miles from me will harm my rep), no more working through suppliers whom I've never met or knew and just rely on the fact that they sent me some money, there is too much on the line here (your health, and my rep), so this is the only way now.

you have to realize the simple math - I've been here for years, I'm here to stay, I'm very very confident with the quality I offer, and the ability to control it, I will adhere to this, nothing less,

 

[Kubrick]

I don't even know why people are not stirring enough at the claims of the gh being FDA standards from the original post...... Or the million of dollars in investment into an operation for the black market.

If I had million of dollars I'll invest in property or more secure means of a return then an amatuer community of aspiring bodybuilders.

Things still don't make sense here.

He's making more money off the black market than he would with real estate. He's a pretty well known guy in the business and has major connects. His real problem is that he can't own up to his mistakes. I'm not worried about the cash that I lost. I'm more worried about how many more times it will happen before he disappears for good. He won't be doing this forever. To be honest, I think "Karl" is more than 1 person. It's a name that they put to the "owner" so when he speaks, he's taken more seriously. This whole steroid game is fucked up. A little integrity would go a long way. It's too bad Sciroxx and "Karl" can't see that. He talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

 

[Western-Biotech]

I don't even know why people are not stirring enough at the claims of the gh being FDA standards from the original post...... Or the million of dollars in investment into an operation for the black market.

If I had million of dollars I'll invest in property or more secure means of a return then an amatuer community of aspiring bodybuilders.

Things still don't make sense here.

I defined this product from first post as a parallel market product, and not UG-bodybuilders focused product. This is exactly from the reasons you specifed. As you may surely guess this operation is not relying on u. Product is sold in Europe to some serious supplier already under different brands, which are the financial basis to this oepration. Products will be sold to suppliers in the USA soonby few routs. However each market and each customer deserve his attention and deserve the quality he pays for. I came here to introduce the product to you as a BB community. My pation is the BB scene, so this is what I do now in person here. May god help me, and you'll enjoy from my products and my presence here

 

[Kubrick]

Either way Karl, you will get yours. This thing won't last forever. Karma is a bitch. You'll be someone's bitch in prison one day. I guarantee you're not as smart as you think you are. Someone's gonna get you one of these days. You're a fucking pussy bro. A coward hides behind a computer ripping people off. A real man would stand behind what he does 100%. You're nothing but a bitch.

 

[dper726]

He's making more money off the black market than he would with real estate. He's a pretty well known guy in the business and has major connects. His real problem is that he can't own up to his mistakes. I'm not worried about the cash that I lost. I'm more worried about how many more times it will happen before he disappears for good. He won't be doing this forever. To be honest, I think "Karl" is more than 1 person. It's a name that they put to the "owner" so when he speaks, he's taken more seriously. This whole steroid game is fucked up. A little integrity would go a long way. It's too bad Sciroxx and "Karl" can't see that. He talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

Sorry buddy but I wouldn't put a million dollar initial investment into an illegal operation that is just opening it's doors. Take a look at astro, astro is the middle man behind his growth, he is simply repackaging his product with his own label. Which is fine, if it's a distributor you can trust. But whatever that's the least of the concern here considering you have already brought to awareness his character from many other transactions prior to this new venture of his.

 

[Western-Biotech]

When I ripped u off ? when I did rip anyone off ?

I want again to see who got from me a product directly and was ripped off.

As a comment - issues with quality may happened - in such case who got from me a product got full back up. We had an issue with GH from China, this whole nightmare is what led us to this venture, you may check me again - each and every customer got a refund.

I came in person to take responsibility on any action of mine. You deal with me now so I can't avoid any responsibility

Be careful with your language, it's u who hide behind the computer and call me a bitch,

 

[Kubrick]

When I ripped u off ? when I did rip anyone off ?

I want again to see who got from me a product directly and was ripped off.

As a comment - issues with quality may happened - in such case who got from me a product got full back up. We had an issue with GH from China, this whole nightmare is what led us to this venture, you may check me again - each and every customer got a refund.

I came in person to take responsibility on any action of mine. You deal with me now so I can't avoid any responsibility

Be careful with your language, it's u who hide behind the computer and call me a bitch,

So you don't have to back up your product sold by "authorized distributors" on your own website? What does "authorized" mean to you? If they weren't on your site it would imply that they weren't necessarily selling real gear. Right? So if they're "authorized", what does that mean? Doesn't seem fair to me. Is it fair Karl? YOU said they were good to go on YOUR website. How much more clear can I be? You ARE responsible.

 

[flenser]

Karl, we don't have to prove to you that you ripped us off. You have to prove to everyone else that you didn't.

 

[Western-Biotech]

The method of selling through a distributor who abuses my rep is stopped, I take the resources, time and good will to come here and make some order. I take the fire for ppl who scammed u. As u may guess it's me to suffer from this above all.

Now we have a good GH product. I state clearly - I'm responsible from a to z on the quality, service, delivery and your satisfaction. If u need other product as well I'll back up the quality, test me

 

[Western-Biotech]

I defined this product from first post as a parallel market product, and not UG - bodybuilders focused product.

I think that this is obvious that I didn't.

How fool can u be ? seriously ?! if a distributor stincks through the net I wanted it to happen ? I've had a great rep for years, and I want to jeoperdize it for some one to make few bucks on your ass? , I may take him off, I may make sure he doesn't use my name no more. I now take action and responsibility, I'm here is person, I chalange u - get products, test randomly, and decide about the product, an if u like on me as a charachter

 

[Kubrick]

The method of selling through a distributor who abuses my rep is stopped, I take the resources, time and good will to come here and make some order. I take the fire for ppl who scammed u. As u may guess it's me to suffer from this above all.

Now we have a good GH product. I state clearly - I'm responsible from a to z on the quality, service, delivery and your satisfaction. If u need other product as well I'll back up the quality, test me

You vouched for them. You know you're wrong. How much does 6 vials of Primo cost you to make? It cost me $500 and it was fake. You could be even on $500 for a small cost but you have no integrity. Integrity is doing the right thing even when no one is looking. You lack it.

 

[brutus79]

The method of selling through a distributor who abuses my rep is stopped, I take the resources, time and good will to come here and make some order. I take the fire for ppl who scammed u. As u may guess it's me to suffer from this above all.

Now we have a good GH product. I state clearly - I'm responsible from a to z on the quality, service, delivery and your satisfaction. If u need other product as well I'll back up the quality, test me

you suffer more than the person who has to pin underdosed, underfilled vials of resold dogshit you approved the sale of? fucking douchebag.

 

[flenser]

The method of selling through a distributor who abuses my rep is stopped, I take the resources, time and good will to come here and make some order. I take the fire for ppl who scammed u. As u may guess it's me to suffer from this above all.

Now we have a good GH product. I state clearly - I'm responsible from a to z on the quality, service, delivery and your satisfaction. If u need other product as well I'll back up the quality, test me

You didn't suffer nearly enough IMO. I missed a week of work after fucking up my liver taking your fake var tabs. I know they came from you.

 

[Western-Biotech]

In contrat to any supplier here of GH I have full control over the quality from scratch. I will prove it, lets order randomly from me, and from any other GH supplier, let the admin, or a mod arrange this. I say clearly, I put 5000usd on the table, lets see who wins, NOW.

I understand you're concerned with my statements, I guess there is no way around it but test it, it's all just talking here, and unfortunately not a wise talking, lets test. More then this, lets arrange this every month !

 

[Nitrobuste]

You say we should just test it. But 300 $ are not little money for most people here...

Do you sell any other gear like test/tren ?

 

[Kubrick]

A lot of is aren't concerned with your new product because you fucked us with your old ones.