Yea no doubt I've asked more than once knowing K would play these silly damn games.
Yet many on Meso are now fully aware K can't produce meaningful results and that's one thing he has PROVEN time and time again!
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Yea no doubt I've asked more than once knowing K would play these silly damn games.
Yet many on Meso are now fully aware K can't produce meaningful results and that's one thing he has PROVEN time and time again!
johnnyBALLZ
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Where are the pics of this "professor" standing next to your HPLC you said you'd post here 2 months ago:
You test every step in your manufacturing yet can't post any of them??
muscle96ss
Subscriber
Yeah, cause your not playing any silly damn games doc, lol. Let me ask you guys this; so what if Karl produces these tests? How many here are going to say this is over and you now believe Karl manufactures his own GH? I am going to guess not one of you will. So we can have Dr. Jim take Karl up on his offer to talk with his professor and get some real answers or we can keep playing these stupid ass games and waste another 80 pages. The bottom line here is we all know that even if Karl produces these tests there are still going to be questions and nobody is going to give in and say that the tests prove anything in regards to him producing his own GH. So why is everyone so adamently against finding a real solution such as speaking with Karl's professor? Come on guys, lets stop this shit once and for all and resolve the issue! Its your choice guys, we can keep going round and round or we can step up to the plate and end this issue.
Marcus
New Member
Well it's dr jims choice if he wants to speak with this "professor," which I have trouble even believing he exists. But let's say he does and is willing to talk about there production of it (which is also a joke, because there is also not 1 conclusive piece of data that says they manufacture GH), how many of us would be able to actually ask the right questions and understand the answers to know if they actually manufacture it.
Regardless of this, I think the tests to be performed on the GH that's causing lumps is important for all of us. I also think that there are a lot of facts laid out for the consumer and we can all make an educated choice, that comes with a calculated risk, of whether to purchase or not. For me personally, I was interested in the very beginning, but right now there are too many variables for me to risk that kind of money on what would be a "6 month investment" at least... Again just my opinion.
Western-Biotech
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Markus - what solution u suggest then ?
I say lets arrange an analytic chemist to make an academic conversation with my professor, there is no way to BS an expert if he asks the right question and spends the time, 100% is never achievable but such expert may have a real opinion.
Why not we find with Millard (for instance) a lab in the USA, some one makes an anonymous order, I post my tests which we agree on, and the lab does so
I think these 2 ideas are thbe closest to take us to the truth.
I think the fact that Dr assclown ignores these suggestions is that as we all have seen is full of ego, full of shit, and full of lies
I say lets arrange an analytic chemist to make an academic conversation with my professor, there is no way to BS an expert if he asks the right question and spends the time, 100% is never achievable but such expert may have a real opinion.
Why not we find with Millard (for instance) a lab in the USA, some one makes an anonymous order, I post my tests which we agree on, and the lab does so
I think these 2 ideas are thbe closest to take us to the truth.
I think the fact that Dr assclown ignores these suggestions is that as we all have seen is full of ego, full of shit, and full of lies
Marcus
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First off, it's Millard wouldn't and shouldn't get involved in this... I know you want him as a mediator, but that would defeat the purpose of everything he has created, but that's up to him and your more than welcome to ask him.
Second, you say "let's arrange," it's not like any of us can convince the doc or someone else who understands the complexity of GH manufacturing to talk to your professor about this, so I have no idea what exactly you want me or any other member to do about this.
Third, there are members who have your GH already and are sending samples in to be tested. Why are you so insistent on sending new samples if I may ask? What's wrong with these samples? The ones causing the lumps... You yourself said the purity was the same as mands sample
Western-Biotech
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A couple of guys mentioned they have access to a chemist, they showed concerns to get such involved so they may be anonymous and keep the conversation academic
Millard is unbiased so I offered him
Dr Jim is a good call to conduct such conversation, but he'll do anything to distract us from our real purposes.
When said arrange tests I meant to keep it unbiased by all means, say I send now a sample then one may say I manipulated it etc'
Millard is unbiased so I offered him
Dr Jim is a good call to conduct such conversation, but he'll do anything to distract us from our real purposes.
When said arrange tests I meant to keep it unbiased by all means, say I send now a sample then one may say I manipulated it etc'
Marcus
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Exactly, the idea is to have a sample that has been sent and I believe that is going to be tested in the near future.
As far as the analytical chemist, I believe you're talking about @Masters Power and correct if I'm wrong masters, but I think he said that's how he knew that you did not have a professional chemist working with you. That he works with them and none would be caught dead in a venture such as this. Again, I could be wrong.
Like I said though, for me there are enough facts laid out, I'll await the tests of the GH that is already in the hands of the customers.
Gym time... Have a good night
As far as the analytical chemist, I believe you're talking about @Masters Power and correct if I'm wrong masters, but I think he said that's how he knew that you did not have a professional chemist working with you. That he works with them and none would be caught dead in a venture such as this. Again, I could be wrong.
Like I said though, for me there are enough facts laid out, I'll await the tests of the GH that is already in the hands of the customers.
Gym time... Have a good night
dnml
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Lets see DIM WIT
Dnml
Italian Moron
Boring Burr
Meat Head
ARE ALL ON MY IGNORE LIST bc they bring nothing constructive, intellectually sound or useful to those other members wanting to be a part of Meso's uncensored discovery process!
Enjoy the discussion from the curbside boys
I cannot say how proud I am of this.
I highly recommend it.
ItalianMuscle27
Member
Look out, we have the grammar/sentence police at meso. You have ZERO on me, and the best you clownfucks can do is correct a few sentence errors? LOL..Quit trying to get this thread off topic. This is about jimbo, his lies and his deceit.
And how about re-reading my quote, when did I say info was a preposition you stupid fuck?
ItalianMuscle27
Member
And your idiocy is well noted in the quote I posted. You're going to correct my grammar/sentences, and you apparently can't write correctly either..LOL
Colt44
Well-known Member
I think the major concern here is the amount of time it has taken for Karl to produce any follow up testing. If he is in fact producing hgh, you'd think he would have direct access to testing at any time. He should be able to present the data immediately when asked.
You're right though. Any test Karl runs at this point will not be considered valid in most people's eyes here. Speaking with his hired staff won't prove he's manufacturing hgh either. It's a no win situation.
Even if he's producing a quality product, which is doubtful, his attitude and demeanor alone will keep me from ever purchasing from him. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way.
I'd like nothing more than to solve this issue. I just don't see it happening. I'm still wondering why some are so adamantly backing Karl. If he's producing such a great product, why not just continue to buy it and move along? Everyone is well aware of the stance each other has taken. Any attempts to sway one another is futile.
So essentially there's no point in arguing it any further IMO.
Kubrick
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Wow! That was a lot of reading... I have to say..Meso is sure going down the shitter. The drama is so much worse than it has ever been. Guys will argue just to argue. What the fuck is Dr Jim doing? Italian muscle is only here to stir shit up. It's ridiculous. Fuck all of you cocksuckers!!
old bro
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I think all this drama has gotten Karl out of the spot light which does no one any good, at this point what we need to ask is whats going to be done about thre fualty products that have bin sent out ie is there a plan to correct the problem.... are those who purchased said faulty products going to be compensated for said products.... If you do infact make your own gh what was the problem and could you go in to detail as how your going to fix it.
Me personally realize that any source from one time or another is going to have a bad batch the sources that last are the ones who fix these mistakes as fast an fairly as possible.
Now the fact that your first batch has bin messed up isn't to far out there bein a new manufacturer but how you deal with it an how fast will determin wether you last.
Me personally realize that any source from one time or another is going to have a bad batch the sources that last are the ones who fix these mistakes as fast an fairly as possible.
Now the fact that your first batch has bin messed up isn't to far out there bein a new manufacturer but how you deal with it an how fast will determin wether you last.
old bro
New Member
Also has it bin confirmed yet that this is infact 191aa cause if im not mistaken does not 192aa cause the same reaction. Again im no pro so this could just be wrong information but I have heard it before.
It's my understanding those that had issues from the first batch have received or will receive replacements. I have not received mine by choice. I am waiting for the next batch and for test to come out. I will be doing a serum test on my replacements.
mands
old bro
New Member
Well that's a step in the right direction. Hopefully others who have ordered can also come on a post how there being dealt with. At this point besided tests which clearly ppl think can be falsed (which they can) not saying they are but they leave doubt. Karl showing how he will deal with bumps in road will help a lot.
old bro
New Member
Looks like Mands refused a refund for his own reasons.
I hear this Meso is going down the tubes rally cry abouit once a year.
The fact is this is what happens when dirt is removed from a forum, some people do get dirty.
"This type of ARGUING most certainly has a purpose and the reactions from those involved should be EXPECTED.
But heck I guess we could censor all those self serving bigots and call this forum Eroids/PM!
But Millard won't do that bc those factors many find abhorrent are why folk come to Meso or "lurk" around the corners. They believe this GH information can very useful bc it can't be found ANYWHERE else, and that's a fact.
Try going to PM or Eoids and hammer K or ANY other advertised source with legit questions about their products COMPLAINTS, or in this instance, a lab that doesn't exist. You and your posts will be dismissed in about one minute fella.
See there are "rules" that moderators adjust, manipulate or modify to meet the demands of advertising sources, yet on Meso it's all up front!
Have you even bothered to look at the number of views this thread has had?
Fella that's a remarkable number and it's representative of the interest in the WB topic we are discussing
Do tell me WHERE ELSE or WHAT OTHER FORUM would allow open criticism of UGLs, sources, analytical labs, administrators, professionals and individual members for the benefit of all, rather than the select and privileged few.
But for those whom just can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Finally if you haven't realized IM is nothing more than a distraction whom offers this forum nothing more than a child in need of attention, you need to devote considerably more time reading his posts.
Me what am I doing? The same thing I've always done. Making every attempt to identify illegitimate sources, and post my concerns, suspicions or evidence on a forum where they are not deleted seconds later!
Regs
Jim
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