Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

Mands, are you seriously trying to argue PM doesn't protect sources? You don't think Big A throws a few morsels to the masses to keep them placated every now and then? You've been around long enough to know PM is the biggest scammer board in existence.

Pacman's GH scam cost members tens of thousands of dollars and then he turned right around and came back as Horizon and did it all over again - that is all the proof needed to show what that board is all about.

When you have a board with that kind of volume its tough to police. In addition, people are always going for the cheapest prices or somehow think that every new sources products will be the holy grail and jumping the gun on placing orders. Most of the scams take place simply due to people making bad choices and there is only so much you can do to protect those people. I am not saying that there isn't board politics and some over protection of sources over there,as there are on any boards, but things have been overexagerated.
 
Consider this a formal challenge: Show where he lied.

Holy shit, are you serious?? Go back and reread the entire fricking thread knowing that Jim is the one that did mands tests; you will find a lie in just about every other post he makes. Like the time he tried to convince me that mands test didn't prove that it was GH. Wow, are you reading the same thread we are?
 
Bahahaha....at the question of Jim lying. The people that believe that he didn't lie are the ones who believe the Baltimore ravens, Roger Goodell didn't see the video of ray rice knocking his fiance out or believe the owner when he said he never really thought about looking at the video. Lmfao...come on!!! The guy tested it. Bashed his own test ....claiming it's not even gh. Or proven. He can claim all he wants he didn't have tests. Bull fucking shit! U think he was not dying to have absolute confirmation of the product even If he told no one else . I don't buy it!
 
Exactly, the idea is to have sample that has been sent and I believe that is going to be tested in the near future.

As far as the analytical chemist, I believe you're talking about @Masters Power and correct if I'm wrong masters, but I think he said that's how he knew that you did not have a professional chemist working with you. That he works with them and none would be caught dead in a venture such as this. Again, I could be wrong.

Like I said though, for me there are enough facts laid out, I'll await the tests of the GH that is already in the hands of the customers.

Gym time... Have a good night

Marcus you are exactly right that was my issue from the start none of the lab directors that I work with here in the US would have anything to with something like this and that is why I questioned what Karl's business relationship was with this chemist. I never said it wasn't possible that he had an analytical chemist capable of producing and testing GH working for him but it didn't make a lot of sense to me based on my experiences.

I offered to have my guys check the credentials of Karl's professor which I could have easily made up a cover story for and which didn't seem out of line since Karl said his professor was willing to be on Skype and discuss the issues and his background.

Karl declined that offer then kept saying in this thread get your experts on a Skype call after I had already stated several times the professors I know will not willingly be involved in something like this.

The last straw for me was when Karl posted in this thread that he had PM'd me begging me to get my professors on a call and I hadn't responded. The reality was he had never PM'd me and I immediately called him out on it. Karl then admitted he had in fact not PM'd me which is fine but I was done at that stage. At a minimum calling me out in that manner when it wasn't true was extremely careless on his part or it was an outright lie either way I don't have any desire to put up with that kind of BS.
 
Masters powers - I posted immediate apology when thought I PMed u

1. I PMed other members incl' Dr Jim

2. I did PM you after I realized I didn't PM u - you didn't response

I won't just give to a member here the professor name, as it's a major risk FFS and everyone knows this, an anonymous thorough conversation on skype present no risks, and gives much more valuable info. Anyhow I may make up a professor name from the internet or god knows and say he's my professor, conversation can't be fakes, and they may discuss all the details

As I said u r a bunch of impotent fuckers (not refers to MP) as we all see, so to save you from yourselves I set a mail, so ask your chemists to mail us any info they may need ! and they make continuous conversation so u may asses we do produce and control the quality - DO IT, DON'T POST BS
 
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Marcus you are exactly right that was my issue from the start none of the lab directors that I work with here in the US would have anything to with something like this and that is why I questioned what Karl's business relationship was with this chemist. I never said it wasn't possible that he had an analytical chemist capable of producing and testing GH working for him but it didn't make a lot of sense to me based on my experiences.

I offered to have my guys check the credentials of Karl's professor which I could have easily made up a cover story for and which didn't seem out of line since Karl said his professor was willing to be on Skype and discuss the issues and his background.

Karl declined that offer then kept saying in this thread get your experts on a Skype call after I had already stated several times the professors I know will not willingly be involved in something like this.

The last straw for me was when Karl posted in this thread that he had PM'd me begging me to get my professors on a call and I hadn't responded. The reality was he had never PM'd me and I immediately called him out on it. Karl then admitted he had in fact not PM'd me which is fine but I was done at that stage. At a minimum calling me out in that manner when it wasn't true was extremely careless on his part or it was an outright lie either way I don't have any desire to put up with that kind of BS.
Absolutely understand Masters... Sorry to bring your name back up man, I don't blame you for not wanting any involvement in this thread any further than you had
 
Holy shit, are you serious?? Go back and reread the entire fricking thread knowing that Jim is the one that did mands tests; you will find a lie in just about every other post he makes. Like the time he tried to convince me that mands test didn't prove that it was GH. Wow, are you reading the same thread we are?


Holy shit! Yeah, I'm reading the thread - objectively. The test Mands had strongly suggested the sample was GH, however, further tests were needed to confirm with absolute certainty. There isn't one test that will confirm you have GH - there are several. Why is that so difficult to understand.
 
Yea I thought the heat was to much for ya. Try PM or EROIDS bc anyone whom believes IM is a worthwhile Meso member BELONGS THERE!

For someone that says Im on his ignore list, you cant get me out of your fucking lying head, can you? :) I have this way with people..
You were flat out, caught in a lie. You're just as bad as the scammers that show their faces here and try to get one over on the members. Bottom line, you cant be trusted..PERIOD! You have your partner cbs sticking up for you, and he looks even more foolish backing your pathetic lying ass.
Rumor has it, you were going to test brutus/jb's ALP orals. I guess thats thrown out the window, eh? Not like any test you post up is going to be believable anyways.
Bottom line, I may be a fucking asshole, but Ill take that title anyday over being a LIAR! Have a nice day jimbo 'the assclown' You dont deserve to be called 'Doctor'..
 
Mands, are you seriously trying to argue PM doesn't protect sources? You don't think Big A throws a few morsels to the masses to keep them placated every now and then? You've been around long enough to know PM is the biggest scammer board in existence.

Pacman's GH scam cost members tens of thousands of dollars and then he turned right around and came back as Horizon and did it all over again - that is all the proof needed to show what that board is all about.

And who do you think exposed the pacman/horizon scam? I did you stupid fuck. I saved members 10s of thousands, and I was banned there for it. What the fuck have you done for this community, besides run your mouth and back a proven liar? (jimbo the assclown)
Oh, I know..you corrected some improper grammar/sentences by me.. Awesome job!!!
 
Holy shit! Yeah, I'm reading the thread - objectively. The test Mands had strongly suggested the sample was GH, however, further tests were needed to confirm with absolute certainty. There isn't one test that will confirm you have GH - there are several. Why is that so difficult to understand.

Let the games go on!! I understand that we can't say 100% positively, unequivocally, that the GH is Gh but we are pretty damn sure and doc has already said he was positive it was GH in mands from mands report. So, instead of saying, yes it is positively GH although we can not be 100.0% sure due to a technicality; he acts as if it has not been proven and puts doubts and fear in everyones mind trying to trick them and play games with the little technicality. His intentions were not to be straightforward and honest but instead to be tricky, deceitful, and play with everybody while he whacks off in the corner. That has been the problem with this whole entire thread as the doc just likes to play games and stroke his ego; like the list of tests he asked Karl for CBC, CRP, etc..and then laughed while Karl tried to figure out the secret code only to realize Jim was just playing more games. Why don't you see this like everyone else does?
 
When you have a board with that kind of volume its tough to police. In addition, people are always going for the cheapest prices or somehow think that every new sources products will be the holy grail and jumping the gun on placing orders. Most of the scams take place simply due to people making bad choices and there is only so much you can do to protect those people. I am not saying that there isn't board politics and some over protection of sources over there,as there are on any boards, but things have been overexagerated.


It's tough to police when the only enforcement is against the members and not the sponsors. PM wont even allow you to post a serum TT if it shows a sponsor's gear is bunk!

It's not just the new sponsors or the cheapest ones that are doing the scamming. Alin is the biggest scammer there. Try criticizing him and see where it gets you. Or RBB. Hell, STP went over there under a different name and the mods protected him - and he sells gear contaminated with pubes!
 
And who do you think exposed the pacman/horizon scam? I did you stupid fuck. I saved members 10s of thousands, and I was banned there for it. What the fuck have you done for this community, besides run your mouth and back a proven liar? (jimbo the assclown)
Oh, I know..you corrected some improper grammar/sentences by me.. Awesome job!!!


The only thing you've ever exposed is your pathetic little pecker when your raincoat fell open at the playground. Go tell your lies somewhere else because no one believes you here.
 
The guy tested it. Bashed his own test ....claiming it's not even gh. Or proven. He can claim all he wants he didn't have tests. Bull fucking shit! U think he was not dying to have absolute confirmation of the product even If he told no one else . I don't buy it!


Prove it. Until then, you're just another idiot flapping his gums over a topic he can't comprehend.
 
Masters powers - I posted immediate apology when thought I PMed u

1. I PMed other members incl' Dr Jim

2. I did PM you after I realized I didn't PM u - you didn't response

I won't just give to a member here the professor name, as it's a major risk FFS and everyone knows this, an anonymous thorough conversation on skype present no risks, and gives much more valuable info. Anyhow I may make up a professor name from the internet or god knows and say he's my professor, conversation can't be fakes, and they may discuss all the details

As I said u r a bunch of impotent fuckers (not refers to MP) as we all see, so to save you from yourselves I set a mail, so ask your chemists to mail us any info they may need ! and they make continuous conversation so u may asses we do produce and control the quality - DO IT, DON'T POST BS

You did post an apology and that was fine. Unfortunately, I think the apology is a lot like a retraction in a newspaper, the damage is already done. My postings in this thread were strictly to try to help other members. I had no desire to get into a back and forth with you which is why I dropped out.

I have serious doubts about your ability to produce quality GH but have absolutely no way of knowing for sure. For the benefit and safety of the brothers here and other spots who order the product from you my hope is that all your claims are true.
 
The only thing you've ever exposed is your pathetic little pecker when your raincoat fell open at the playground. Go tell your lies somewhere else because no one believes you here.
My lies? Your pathetic ass is backing the LIAR 'JIMBO THE ASSCLOWN'.. You know how foolish you look? I wouldnt be surprised if you actually worked with jimbo. Do you work at the university, or are you at the hospital?
I dont lie bro. I speak the truth, and that whats gets me hated on and banned. You're trying so hard to make me out to be a liar, but you cant prove shit. You dont have anything on me..zero, zilch, nada.. You're just another idiot flapping his jaws in the wind.
We have pages of jimbo the assclowns lies..
 
Prove it. Until then, you're just another idiot flapping his gums over a topic he can't comprehend.
I provided proof earlier. He tested it and if u think that those conversations between him and mands were about that test. Up till now I have no issues with u. I comprehend the topic, I've got a master's degree I'm not stupid. Nor was I born yesterday. If u want to think Jim just left the tests as is ,go ahead but I'm not going to sit back ,after he attacks me and several other people bc we wanted to know the truth, he knew the results and said nothing. Yet he's scaring people into thinking they are injecting poison. I can't believe u don't see the Deception
 
Mands, are you seriously trying to argue PM doesn't protect sources? You don't think Big A throws a few morsels to the masses to keep them placated every now and then? You've been around long enough to know PM is the biggest scammer board in existence.

Pacman's GH scam cost members tens of thousands of dollars and then he turned right around and came back as Horizon and did it all over again - that is all the proof needed to show what that board is all about.

Never stated that CBS! Jim's generalizations are erroneous... They are usually calling out other boards as a scammer boards or members he doesn't know as shills. It's old and tiresome. Blah blah blah

Yes there are things that happen differently on other boards compared to this one but, stating a board deletes all negative posts and helps scammers is fucking retarded.

I can go over to PM right now and probably pick three different sources that got called out today. Guess what all the original negative posts are still there.

Funny thing is PM and eroids are probably the only board he hasn't been ran off from yet! He's been ran off here once already and over at TID.

CBS you know I respect you for what you have done on this board so don't take any of my posts negative towards you. Jim fucked up and I'm done with him.

mands
 
Haha. You got me good :rolleyes: ... I think IM is a complete fucking idiot and I could care less if he dropped dead right now. I can't stand you ALMOST as much as I can't stand him. Anything else? I'm done. You won't lure me into one of your pissing matches.

Golly K # 2 at least back up your statements AS I DO! You call me a liar, a hypocrite, a shady fuck (which is difficult to quantify) who posts bullshit tests. (Try informing MANDS the analytical data I conducted on Ks GH is
"bullshit", lol)

Really do you have any posts, comments or evidence that supports your attention seeking garbage, NOPE.

Your just another cry baby who was always unwilling to understand the analytical data I've posted and thereafter blame the complexity on me.

However your also the same type of clown that would call foul if I changed the chemists discussions
to fit the need of high schoolers.

You "used to support me" really, NOT! Fact is not ONE of your posts has been even overtly supportive of my comments so try your lame attempt as a sacrificial lamb, (tolerating the intolerable by dr Jim) elsewhere.
 
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