Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[old bro]

I hear this Meso is going down the tubes rally cry about once a year.

The fact is this is what happens when dirt is removed from a forum, some people do get dirty.

"This type of ARGUING most certainly has a purpose and the reactions from those involved should be EXPECTED.

But heck I guess we could censor all those self serving bigots and call this forum Eroids/PM!

But Millard won't do that bc those factors many find abhorrent are why folk come to Meso or "lurk" around the corners. They find this information very useful bc it can't be found ANYWHERE else, and that's a fact.

Try going to PM or Eoids and hammer K or ANY other source with legit questions about a lab that doesn't exist. You and your posts will be dismissed in about one minute fella.

See there are "rules" that moderators adjust, manipulate or modify to meet the demands of advertising sources, yet on Meso it's all up front!

Have you even bothered to look at the number of views this thread has had?

Fella that's a remarkable number and it's representative of the interest in the WB topic we are discussing

Do tell me WHERE ELSE or WHAT OTHER FORUM would allow open criticism of UGLs, sources, analytical labs, administrators, professionals and individual members for the benefit of all, rather than the select and privileged few.

But for those whom just can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Finally if you haven't realized IM is nothing more than a distraction whom offers this forum nothing more than a child in need of attention, you need to devote much more time reading his posts.

Me what am I doing? The same thing I've always done. Making every attempt to identify illegitimate sources, and post my concerns, suspicions or evidence on a forum where they are not deleted seconds later!

I have to agree for the most part this type of stuff is going to happen on board that lets be honest is WAY more open then any other board out there. And I love the fact that we can grill the sourcess as to many of us have bin burned for thousands of $$$$.

But at some point all the fighting does take away from the target at hand which is the company that started the thread in the first place. I think a ton of this drama could have never bin started had Karl just not said anything about manufacturing his own gh it honestly caused more problems then anything with no real payout.

In the end all any one wants is legit GH an if he can get it at low pricess an safe to use do we really care where its form?

 

[mands]

I hear this Meso is going down the tubes rally cry abouit once a year.

The fact is this is what happens when dirt is removed from a forum, some people do get dirty.

"This type of ARGUING most certainly has a purpose and the reactions from those involved should be EXPECTED.

But heck I guess we could censor all those self serving bigots and call this forum Eroids/PM!

But Millard won't do that bc those factors many find abhorrent are why folk come to Meso or "lurk" around the corners. They believe this GH information can very useful bc it can't be found ANYWHERE else, and that's a fact.

Try going to PM or Eoids and hammer K or ANY other advertised source with legit questions about their products COMPLAINTS, or in this instance, a lab that doesn't exist. You and your posts will be dismissed in about one minute fella.

See there are "rules" that moderators adjust, manipulate or modify to meet the demands of advertising sources, yet on Meso it's all up front!

Have you even bothered to look at the number of views this thread has had?

Fella that's a remarkable number and it's representative of the interest in the WB topic we are discussing

Do tell me WHERE ELSE or WHAT OTHER FORUM would allow open criticism of UGLs, sources, analytical labs, administrators, professionals and individual members for the benefit of all, rather than the select and privileged few.

But for those whom just can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Finally if you haven't realized IM is nothing more than a distraction whom offers this forum nothing more than a child in need of attention, you need to devote considerably more time reading his posts.

Me what am I doing? The same thing I've always done. Making every attempt to identify illegitimate sources, and post my concerns, suspicions or evidence on a forum where they are not deleted seconds later!

Regs
Jim

Might want to go check over at PM because I've seen two different sponsors get hammered today. Nothing was deleted.

ProGen and Mean Grean both getting blasted.

Even in K's thread I believe he gets hammered a couple times. Nope it wasn't deleted.

Why respond with bullshit when you don't have a clue.

mands

 

[Dr JIM]

I think all this drama has gotten Karl out of the spot light which does no one any good, at this point what we need to ask is whats going to be done about thre fualty products that have bin sent out ie is there a plan to correct the problem.... are those who purchased said faulty products going to be compensated for said products.... If you do infact make your own gh what was the problem and could you go in to detail as how your going to fix it.

Me personally realize that any source from one time or another is going to have a bad batch the sources that last are the ones who fix these mistakes as fast an fairly as possible.

Now the fact that your first batch has bin messed up isn't to far out there bein a new manufacturer but how you deal with it an how fast will determin wether you last.

I know this I a long thread but I've ask K three times what form of compensation has been offered to those with adverse reactions and in typical K fashion he either deflects the issue, diminishes it's importance, or completely denies it's existence.

Historically this is exactly how he handles any controversial issue. Read the thread completely to fully understand what I'm referring to.

I will also tell you K usually settles issues that may create "problems" behind closed doors.

I certainly don't believe this situation will be any different bc the adverse effects most users have experienced are completely consistent with an allergic RX to the product itself, and a RARE event at that.

 

[old bro]

I know this I a long thread but I've ask K three times what form of compensation has been offered to those with adverse reactions and in typical K fashion he either deflects the issue, diminishes it's importance, or completely denies it's existence.

Historically this is exactly how he handles any controversial issue. Read the thread completely to fully understand what I'm referring to.

I will also tell you K usually settles issues that may create "problems" behind closed doors.

I certainly don't believe this situation will be any different bc the adverse effects most users are experiencing is completely consistent with an allergic RX to the product itself, and a RARE event at that.

Ya I believe Kigs were well known for the same red welt after pining. From some places I read that this happens because infact its not 191aa but 192aa is this a possibility.

And ive been following this thread since day one and tbh im more confused then ever lol im just hopen we can get the proper info every one needs an I hope others who have gotten the first batch chime in. also I hope your still able to test the old batch to let us know whats up with it.

 

[Kubrick]

I hear this Meso is going down the tubes rally cry abouit once a year.

The fact is this is what happens when dirt is removed from a forum, some people do get dirty.

"This type of ARGUING most certainly has a purpose and the reactions from those involved should be EXPECTED.

But heck I guess we could censor all those self serving bigots and call this forum Eroids/PM!

But Millard won't do that bc those factors many find abhorrent are why folk come to Meso or "lurk" around the corners. They believe this GH information can very useful bc it can't be found ANYWHERE else, and that's a fact.

Try going to PM or Eoids and hammer K or ANY other advertised source with legit questions about their products COMPLAINTS, or in this instance, a lab that doesn't exist. You and your posts will be dismissed in about one minute fella.

See there are "rules" that moderators adjust, manipulate or modify to meet the demands of advertising sources, yet on Meso it's all up front!

Have you even bothered to look at the number of views this thread has had?

Fella that's a remarkable number and it's representative of the interest in the WB topic we are discussing

Do tell me WHERE ELSE or WHAT OTHER FORUM would allow open criticism of UGLs, sources, analytical labs, administrators, professionals and individual members for the benefit of all, rather than the select and privileged few.

But for those whom just can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Finally if you haven't realized IM is nothing more than a distraction whom offers this forum nothing more than a child in need of attention, you need to devote considerably more time reading his posts.

Me what am I doing? The same thing I've always done. Making every attempt to identify illegitimate sources, and post my concerns, suspicions or evidence on a forum where they are not deleted seconds later!

Regs
Jim

I should go to eroids because you're a liar? That doesn't make any sense. I was pointing out that you are acting like a child and you are so full of shit. I love the uncensored forum. My complaint has nothing to do with censorship. It is more about the maturity level of some of you. You act like you're a savior to this board but most of the time you're arguing over nonsense. I've always respected you doc, but you made yourself look foolish in this thread. Hit that block button on me too. I'll be doing it to you. You're a hypocrite, a liar, and shady as fuck. You are trying to dictate the direction of the thread with your bullshit tests and run around. You're worse than some of these sources. Mands didn't do anything wrong here. You're just a bipolar internet troll who has nothing better to do than argue and tell people to go to censored forums. I haven't looked at you the same since Scally made you look like a clown. Now you're doing a good job of it yourself, aren't you?

 

[Dr JIM]

I should go to eroids because you're a liar? That doesn't make any sense. I was pointing out that you are acting like a child and you are so full of shit. I love the uncensored forum. My complaint has nothing to do with censorship. It is more about the maturity level of some of you. You act like you're a savior to this board but most of the time you're arguing over nonsense. I've always respected you doc, but you made yourself look foolish in this thread. Hit that block button on me too. I'll be doing it to you. You're a hypocrite, a liar, and shady as fuck. You are trying to dictate the direction of the thread with your bullshit tests and run around. You're worse than some of these sources. Mands didn't do anything wrong here. You're just a bipolar internet troll who has nothing better to do than argue and tell people to go to censored forums. I haven't looked at you the same since Scally made you look like a clown. Now you're doing a good job of it yourself, aren't you?

Yea I thought the heat was to much for ya. Try PM or EROIDS bc anyone whom believes IM is a worthwhile Meso member BELONGS THERE!

 

[mands]

Ya I believe Kigs were well known for the same red welt after pining. From some places I read that this happens because infact its not 191aa but 192aa is this a possibility.

And ive been following this thread since day one and tbh im more confused then ever lol im just hopen we can get the proper info every one needs an I hope others who have gotten the first batch chime in. also I hope your still able to test the old batch to let us know whats up with it.

Jim tested the old batch and it was GH and good GH. My serum test also showed GH was present.

The real question, is K manufacturing it? Do I give a shit if he is or not? Nope I don't. That's on him. If he states that he is then he should be able to back it up.

I just want good GH for a good price. I think that's what we all want.

Jim should not be involved in any future testing in my opinion.

mands

 

[Kubrick]

Yea I thought the heat was to much for ya. Try PM or EROIDS bc anyone whom believes IM is a worthwhile Meso member BELONGS THERE!

Haha. You got me good ... I think IM is a complete fucking idiot and I could care less if he dropped dead right now. I can't stand you ALMOST as much as I can't stand him. Anything else? I'm done. You won't lure me into one of your pissing matches.

 

[old bro]

Jim tested the old batch and it was GH and good GH. My serum test also showed GH was present.

The real question, is K manufacturing it? Do I give a shit if he is or not? Nope I don't. That's on him. If he states that he is then he should be able to back it up.

I just want good GH for a good price. I think that's what we all want.

He should not be involved in any future testing in my opinion.

mands

Ive said that from the get go that was Karls biggest mistake tellin ppl he made the gh all it did was create a square hole as to which the community can stick there round peg into.

In the end it served no purpose at all only created more ?ns.

 

[muscle96ss]

I hear this Meso is going down the tubes rally cry abouit once a year.

The fact is this is what happens when dirt is removed from a forum, some people do get dirty.

"This type of ARGUING most certainly has a purpose and the reactions from those involved should be EXPECTED.

But heck I guess we could censor all those self serving bigots and call this forum Eroids/PM!

But Millard won't do that bc those factors many find abhorrent are why folk come to Meso or "lurk" around the corners. They believe this GH information can very useful bc it can't be found ANYWHERE else, and that's a fact.

Try going to PM or Eoids and hammer K or ANY other advertised source with legit questions about their products COMPLAINTS, or in this instance, a lab that doesn't exist. You and your posts will be dismissed in about one minute fella.

See there are "rules" that moderators adjust, manipulate or modify to meet the demands of advertising sources, yet on Meso it's all up front!

Have you even bothered to look at the number of views this thread has had?

Fella that's a remarkable number and it's representative of the interest in the WB topic we are discussing

Do tell me WHERE ELSE or WHAT OTHER FORUM would allow open criticism of UGLs, sources, analytical labs, administrators, professionals and individual members for the benefit of all, rather than the select and privileged few.

But for those whom just can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Finally if you haven't realized IM is nothing more than a distraction whom offers this forum nothing more than a child in need of attention, you need to devote considerably more time reading his posts.

Me what am I doing? The same thing I've always done. Making every attempt to identify illegitimate sources, and post my concerns, suspicions or evidence on a forum where they are not deleted seconds later!

Regs
Jim

Nothing but complete bullshit being written here. People are looking at Meso and wondering what kind of circus side show is going on as Dr. Jim the assclown leads a thread on the road to nowhere. First of all, you say this wouldn't be tolerate at other boards. Well why don't you goto PM and read the sciroxx thread in the sponsors forum and go back to the posts around March of this year. You will see that I hammered the fuck out of Karl back then. You can ask Karl, he will not disagree. Its all there still in black and white for everyone to see. It didn't turn into a circus sideshow like it did here and Karl made a commitment to resolve everyones issues and while I didn't believe him(just as you guys don't believe him here), he came through for me and everybody that he owed from the bunk scitropin fiasco(also go look at Crimson thread while you are it from back in February, I hammered the fuck out of him as well and it is still standing as well; its all in the presentation). Secondly, Dr. Jims post here is nothing but an egotistical rant from a guy whose only concern is of himself. If he truly gave a shit about the true purpose he has stated many times then he would simply talk to Karl's professor as a start. This has been on the table since the beginning of the thread. He has soiled this thread with nothing but lies, deceit, and games. There is absolutely nothing positive that has come from this thread as of yet. It still has potential, but for that to happen we need actions from Jim and not words.

 

[Western-Biotech]

We've been discussing last days with a FDA (foreign) approved lab which one of its expertise is establishing GMP facilities (and GLP labs) the opportunity to register (license) a GH product. I updated u on this few days ago. Establishing GMP production is the first step to a license. I have no estimation if and when such may happen, but we're working at this direction, my associate which this venture (license) is actually his interest and me thought a license is a matter of months, apparently it's more.

I tell u this as the most important out come of this, is this lab takes charge on the QA process as it should.

I asked them to describe for you the set of tests which will be done methodically on any new batch, I'll post their summery early tomorrow. I have to say that one of basic test does include a mapping of the AA seq, I'll have the exact spec of the test 2morrow as I said.

The lab is very flexible and cooperative by its nature, as it's involved in many kinds of ventures so I'll set for your service an e-mail so you may ask any question directly them, and present any issue. I think I'll be the first to read the mail from obvious reasons, but they'll reply to any issue with great care.

I offered to talk directly to the professor who is in charge of the technology, but you're so impotent bunch of shitters that even this u couldn't accomplish. The e-mail I'll give enables you to bypass my suggestion to talk directly to the professor live to asses his existance or the fact that we produce the GH, and now you'll have the right route of communication to evaluate anything u like to.

I estimate that first batch under their inspection will be ready in 3-4 weeks, We certainly try ASAP

 

[ufcguy32]

So Jim cares so much for the members here he tested the gh mands gave him. Then he supposedly thinks mands is helping Karl sell gh. Which not one time before he got exposed did he say that he thought that. Yet he stopped testing it or maybe he tested it and didn't give mands the rest of the testing. So....Jim was more worried about Karl making a buck than everyone's safety as he likes to remind us of. So why is that jim? Why did u put the possibility of Karl making money over the supposed safety of the very members you claim are at risk. By the way don't even think about using the Injection issues bc you knew about them back then. So ill be waiting for the response buddy

 

[old bro]

We've been discussing last days with a FDA (foreign) approved lab which one of its expertise is establishing GMP facilities (and GLP labs) the opportunity to register (license) a GH product. I updated u on this few days ago. Establishing GMP production is the first step to a license. I have no estimation if and when such may happen, but we're working at this direction, my associate which this venture (license) is actually his interest and me thought a license is a matter of months, apparently it's more.

I tell u this as the most important out come of this, is this lab takes charge on the QA process as it should.

I asked them to describe for you the set of tests which will be done methodically on any new batch, I'll post their summery early tomorrow. I have to say that one of basic test does include a mapping of the AA seq, I'll have the exact spec of the test 2morrow as I said.

The lab is very flexible and cooperative by its nature, as it's involved in many kinds of ventures so I'll set for your service an e-mail so you may ask any question directly them, and present any issue. I think I'll be the first to read the mail from obvious reasons, but they'll reply to any issue with great care.

I offered to talk directly to the professor who is in charge of the technology, but you're so impotent bunch of shitters that even this u couldn't accomplish. The e-mail I'll give enables you to bypass my suggestion to talk directly to the professor live to asses his existance or the fact that we produce the GH, and now you'll have the right route of communication to evaluate anything u like to.

I estimate that first batch under their inspection will be ready in 3-4 weeks, We certainly try ASAP

i think anyone talkin to your professor is just not gonna happen at this point.

Have you found out what went wrong with the last batch what stepa are bein taken in the new batch to prevent it happening in the future are the ppl who have recieved the last batch bin talked to about replacements what about ppl who are currently waiting on products?

 

[ufcguy32]

I've taken 4 injection no issues. It does have a slight sting to it. No welt. No lumps. This is the 2nd batch I did not use the first one

 

[old bro]

I've taken 4 injection no issues. It does have a slight sting to it. No welt. No lumps. This is the 2nd batch I did not use the first one

great thanks this is what we need i take it you have old batch aswell?

 

[ufcguy32]

No I had decided to wait on the second so I don't have experience with the first batch. A pucks I received look good and I'm doing intramuscular 2iu X2 a day.

 

[old bro]

No I had decided to wait on the second so I don't have experience with the first batch. A pucks I received look good and I'm doing intramuscular 2iu X2 a day.

So product wise your happy. What about actuall dealings ie interaction shipping actuall time for product to be shipped after funds were transfered. No detail needed in the where how much just over all dealings

 

[ufcguy32]

The time waited was longer than expected but bc of the issues I chose to wait. So that part was my Decision. I was given my choice of extra tabs of my choice bc of the waiting time. Not a ton but none the less it's something extra. I have had very good sleep on it so far and vivid dreams. I usually wake up a lot at night. I've been in deeper sleep the last two nights. Nothing else I can report on as far as results bc that will take time

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Might want to go check over at PM because I've seen two different sponsors get hammered today. Nothing was deleted.

ProGen and Mean Grean both getting blasted.

Even in K's thread I believe he gets hammered a couple times. Nope it wasn't deleted.

Why respond with bullshit when you don't have a clue.

mands

Mands, are you seriously trying to argue PM doesn't protect sources? You don't think Big A throws a few morsels to the masses to keep them placated every now and then? You've been around long enough to know PM is the biggest scammer board in existence.

Pacman's GH scam cost members tens of thousands of dollars and then he turned right around and came back as Horizon and did it all over again - that is all the proof needed to show what that board is all about.

 

[old bro]

The time waited was longer than expected but by of the issues I chose to wait. So that part was my Decision. I was given my choice of extra tabs of my choice bc of the waiting time. Not a ton but none the less it's something extra. I have had very good sleep on it so far and vivid dreams. I usually wake up a lot at night. I've been in deeper sleep the last two nights. Nothing else I can report on ad far as results bc that will take time

Not much more can be said. Thanks for posting hopefully more that have done transactions will step forward.