I use a heating pad and asprin.
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What to do about PIP
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i assure you, nobody in the thier right mind is injecting with an 18g.
This guy is.
bob357sig
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I still don’t really understand why one compound will give more pip then another when the same ester is involved. Take for instance dhb wich I believe is 1 test cyp. Why is it giving so many guys such a hard time with pip compared to regular test cyp?
MisterSuperGod
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The name is deceiving. 1TC is not Test. It's dihydroboldenone. Totally different compound.
bob357sig
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Yes different compound but with the same ester attached. Why would dihydroboldenone with a cyponate ester attached be more painful to inject then a testosterone with cyponate ester? Same with other things.Nan D is smooth as hell same with EQ, but I have heard primo can be painful, that has an enanthate ester on it.
I believe it comes down to solubility. I could be wrong on term. For instance 500mg/1ml Test will produce more pip than 250/1. Same goes for Primo 100 & 200. I’ve never seen and assume because everyone claims Primo over 200mg/ml won’t hold in solution.
MisterSuperGod
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i don't think it's so much the ester as it is the compound itself. i believe an experienced brewer would make all the difference in regards to PIP.
bob357sig
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I can understand the solubility thing, I guess it is up to the individual compound involved as to how long those crystals take to “ melt “ into your system I guess. Test crystals must just take longer to dissolve then some other things like Nan. I never had a problem with win depo giving me any pip with every day injections, but test E once a week snd I would have pip for days.
MisterSuperGod
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Some compounds seem more prone to giving PIP than others, but i also believe brewing experience and how people handle different carrier oils and ba/bb ratios makes a huge difference.
Example 1. Test Prop. Some people just can't use it because of the PIP. To this day, i've never had the slightest problem with Test Prop, and i've used it from at least 3 different sources.
Example 2. Test E. We had a source here (long gone) that sold Test E to me and multiple other members. Of all of us, i was the only one getting crippled by it.
Example 3. Miglyol 840 is a refined MCT oil. There's a cool bro here that brews with it, almost exclusively. i can't use anything over a 1/2 ml because it cripples me. Others that have dealt with him haven't had issues. In fact, he told me that i was one of only two people he's dealt with that couldn't handle it.
Much of it seems to be an individual thing. i suppose the only way to know if DHB (or any other compound) will be a rough ride is to try it out and see what happens.
bob357sig
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Strange thing this pip. Some also blame it on the needle size but I don’t think that has too much to do with it ither. I used to use 23 ga to shoot both win every day, and test E once a week, and only the test E would give me pip. Worst pip I ever had was trenA. I have never touched tren sence then, almost 25 years ago. I want to try tren again, maby tren E but cringe at the thaught of that pip.
Rigger622
Member
I use a 25 gauge but its my own homebrew with mct oil, my doctor prescribed with cso not so much I really have to heat it up to get to flow nicely definitely takes longer.
When I get PIP this is what I do.
Take 2 Aleve
Use a heatpad while I’m sitting at home
Use Icy Hot when I’m on the go
Constantly massage the area as hard as you can. Use your knuckles and dig into the area.
Drink a lot of water
Eat a lot of food
Try to rest and sleep with your heatpad on the area. But make sure you have a heatpad that goes off automatically or it could burn you if you spend the entire night with it on.
Take 2 Aleve
Use a heatpad while I’m sitting at home
Use Icy Hot when I’m on the go
Constantly massage the area as hard as you can. Use your knuckles and dig into the area.
Drink a lot of water
Eat a lot of food
Try to rest and sleep with your heatpad on the area. But make sure you have a heatpad that goes off automatically or it could burn you if you spend the entire night with it on.
onetwonine
New Member
When I get PIP i buy gear from a different lab and throw the offending gear in the trash.
After 4 years of this.
I have 0 tolerance for PIP
Limping around feeling like have the flu is not what i signed up for.
Also, one of the above posters mentioned it.
Test E has been a no go for me for a couple years now. Unbearable PIP.
After 4 years of this.
I have 0 tolerance for PIP
Limping around feeling like have the flu is not what i signed up for.
Also, one of the above posters mentioned it.
Test E has been a no go for me for a couple years now. Unbearable PIP.
LVLzeroHER0
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UPDATE: So I tried pinning slower (about 30 sec per cc) and I’ve experienced “Great Success! La la la king in the castle!” Although the Test E still hurts a bit (however I didn’t go quite as slow as the others). And a little stiffness from my last pin (Eq and decca mix) but no real pain... just thought I’d share my experiment.
AlwaysHungry
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What’s labs do you think has the least pip??
Ps I get more pip from pharma grade test than any labs I’ve used
Ps I get more pip from pharma grade test than any labs I’ve used
Iron Frenchie
Member
For me PCOM. I haven’t used them in awhile but I remember their test P. Most labs have a little pip but theirs seems it has no pip. I know they add EO to their mixes. Don’t know if it could be that.
AlwaysHungry
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Always curious to try pharmacom but their prices are not fair IMO
Maxo1
New Member
Fast, slow, it's all the same to me. I usually try to go fast just to get it done with. Sometimes the plunger just stops and I have to press really hard to get it going the rest of the way. What's with this? This is when my pip is the worst.
Murho
Member
I find also find injection speed doesn't change it.
I was getting PIP from NPP and Test-P, but if I dilute 50% with sterile oil and make sure I am injecting deep enough I don't feel anything.
LVLzeroHER0
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Yeah for me it’s been all injection speed. I slowed way down and no pip at all
