What's the trick to feeling great on steroids?

[Les]

Wait for your blood test results so you're not guessing. If you post up looking for advice don't be a douche when you don't agree with the advice you get. If you knew the answer you wouldn't be here asking the question.

 

[theprodgicalson]

Intense sweating, foggy memory, nausea, cold sweats, a dead penis, lethargic, no energy, it took everything I had to just get out of bed. And then my testosterone dipped down lower then it was before I went to the doctor the first time.

Try withdrawing from heroin, cocaine and Xanax and let me know which is worse.

All I have to say to you is FUCK YOU!
I've never had these symptoms in my life until I came off 100mg of testosterone so suck my dick. I hope you just have dr in your name and not in real life because if I can go you and you said that to me in person you would laying on the floor.

How would he be laying on the floor if you have no energy and are constantly tired?

Post your bloods when you get them. Don't rule out everything everyone is saying(like you currently are). You can rest assured that the suggestions towards you in this thread are more than likely accurate.

 

[ddp7]

Thanks so much for this Guys.Its incredible your helpwill and really Im very thankfull.
Well,currently,dont takenothing.M only lil problem is work stress and college( left 2 years remember?).But easy. Provi and exemestane(currently take once a week 6 mg,ray peat forum logic ok so sorry) will be a good think.Dont know the provi. Im a shy guy that forces itself to never give up( so this is the reason for "sexual therapy"and in the past the rock vocalist game i take pro lesson btw).
So dont care for me but answer my questions in the future.
Gracias y Saludos Amigos(Jim "adios" es para los yupies).

 

[Maven3]

Its not test thats for sure. I feel amazing on 500mg per week. Dr J has good advice you should listen to him. He comes off harsh but he knows his shit.

 

[ddp7]

Its not test thats for sure. I feel amazing on 500mg per week. Dr J has good advice you should listen to him. He comes off harsh but he knows his shit.

Thanks, really I hate exemestane but once a week help me to avoid mental stress of the week,its a reset,so to speak. Well and the porn a couple of week but not everyday bc i feel bad in mind terms a "bad person", again i guess my culprit view of porn ( try to think like you). But porn help me a lot to hold my libido. Well thanks so much again.

 

[MGainz]

Thanks, really I hate exemestane but once a week help me to avoid mental stress of the week,its a reset,so to speak. Well and the porn a couple of week but not everyday bc i feel bad in mind terms a "bad person", again i guess my culprit view of porn ( try to think like you). But porn help me a lot to hold my libido. Well thanks so much again.

Wait you take exemestane once a week...?

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[Logman]

Intense sweating, foggy memory, nausea, cold sweats, a dead penis, lethargic, no energy, it took everything I had to just get out of bed. And then my testosterone dipped down lower then it was before I went to the doctor the first time.

So basically a hangover.

 

[ddp7]

Wait you take exemestane once a week...?

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Since a month and half ago i ran two weeks (the first week 3mg e3d and the second week 6,5 mg e3d), then the third week i ran 6,5 with 30 mg of oxandrolone( to test the recovery with oxandrolone after a fullbody day more cardio post). Currently, since two days ago i run 6,5mg before bed.

*the second week of exemestane i ran 2,5 mg e3d of oxandrolone( to test the drug itself).

 

[MisterSuperGod]

The trick is to inject them.

Wait, what?
You mean... with... with... a needle?

 

[ddp7]

*sorry cant edit,but currently i ran 6,5mg before bed,but this isnt a planning, is a gun against lethargy.

 

[2Dumb2Plumb]

so I'm under the impression that all that guys that are huge all seem to have high energy and look and feel great. Especially older men that have bodies of a 20 year old. I'm 28, 198lbs 15%body fat 5"10. Got diagnosed with low t last year. After having terrible luck with 2 doctors I've decided to just take testosterone myself seeing how it was the level of a 60 year old man. But honestly I don't feel much better then I did before. Still tired, not much energy, I am seeing decent strength gains and muscle but that's it. Sex drive and errections are non existent. I did my own bloodwork and should be getting it next week. I live in Indiana so I ordered my own tests. I started a year ago with a doctor at 100mg, and got up to 120mg weekly. Didn't feel any better. Then they put me on hcg, all that did was raise my estrogen really high. So that was through a course of a year. Now I'm getting test my self through a good friend and started at 250mg weekly for a few months and felt ok. Still not what I feel a 28 year old male who eats clean should feel like. For the past 2 months I've been taking 500mg weekly and am extremely tired, still no sex drive throughout he whole process. And weak errections. I'm thinking maybe high
Estrogen again although I'm not having any symptoms like what I had before. Before I had lots of water retention, itchy nipples, and very emotional. Currently I'm only having the no see drive and weak errections. I usually give my self 2-3 months before increasing my dosage to try and figure out where I feel best. Nothing seems to work. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I thought I would be feeling wonderful by now. Especially after being told that my t was so low by my doctor that he wouldn't be surprised
That if I weren't having some andropause symptoms.

Instead of writing all this. Can you lay out your injection protocol. Blood work, Diet, sleep etc....

I was talking to a 69 year old man in the gym that swears TRT made his life better. Of course he's 69, completely ripped.

Contrary to what you believe "Big Guys" have to eat A lot to feel good. You miss one carb meal and you're fucked. There are no happy solutions to this. It's mostly mental like the Doc says.

 

[2Dumb2Plumb]

All I have to say to you is FUCK YOU!
I've never had these symptoms in my life until I came off 100mg of testosterone so suck my dick. I hope you just have dr in your name and not in real life because if I can go you and you said that to me in person you would laying on the floor.

Me and Doc have our differences but If you read his post minus all the big fucking words he throws around he makes a lot of sense. The Doc is a really good guy. In the end it's your choice. The Doc isn't going to climb out of the screen and beat your ass lol.

And to be honest a Doc on a steroid forum is 50/50 that he's a lot bigger than any one of us.

 

[Spooby]

Man people are so edgy in the comments sections lately lmao

 

[stevius]

I think what you are not taking into consideration are the myriad of far reaching effects of your body's own stress reaction - the "anxiety" you keep mentioning, combined with the small town environment to live in, could lead to you underestimating and lowballing your condition to yourself and your health care providers. I'm no doctor, but you sound like somebody who could be both uneducated and in denial about being clinically depressed. But it could also be zinc poisoning...


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[Throwback]

I'm currently waiting for my blood work to come back. I don't feel like I'm having any symptoms of high estrogen. I've had it so bad in he past that my ankles where nice and fat and full of water, couldn't wear my ring any off and I was very emotional. This is everything that I'm having tested

CBC (INCLUDES DIFF/PLT)
COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL W/EGFR
LUTENIZING HORMONE
FSH
TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS
ESTRADIOL, REBASELINE
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG)

You need much more specific tests than a metabolic panel and hormones.
There are so many possibilities that need to be looked at. Stop focusing on hormone related issues and look at brain function serotonin dopamine etc.
Advanced Lyme disease also produces symptoms similar to yours.
Open up your possibilities in your search for relief.

 

[mkulltra58]

I might be wrong but this is an interesting thought...steroids aren't a mood or thought changing drug. Steroids don't change the way you "feel". The possible side of effects of steroids, however, can change your mood or effect your feelings/thoughts. High estrogen can make you depressed or sad. Low estrogen can make you feel lethargic. High androgens can make your sexual libido increase or can cause aggressiveness or anger. Etc. etc.

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

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Yea and those and darn near everyone of your other complaints are hallmarks of an emotional disorder, see a psychiatrist!

But it's obvious you're NOT going to do that or you would be HERE

Bon-voyage

Dr. Jim, I don't care how long you've been here or how much you're respected by other members or what your contributions are. You're very simply a total dick.
The OP doesn't have an attitude. He's answering questions and simply asking for help on a board that was designed to do just that. Help people with steroid related questions and issues.
You are repeatedly condescending and demeaning to people unless they're "cool" enough to be in your fanboy click.
Yea yea I know. You act like that because poeople ask for help and when they're given advice they ignore it until they get what they want to hear and Yada yada yada. Sometimes that's true but you're and ego maniacal condescending preachy prick regardless.

What's the difference between Dr. Jim and God?...God doesn't think he's Dr. Jim.

Prick

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Dr. Jim, I don't care how long you've been here or how much you're respected by other members or what your contributions are. You're very simply a total dick.
The OP doesn't have an attitude. He's answering questions and simply asking for help on a board that was designed to do just that. Help people with steroid related questions and issues.
You are repeatedly condescending and demeaning to people unless they're "cool" enough to be in your dick riding click.
Yea yea I know. You act like that because poeople ask for help and when they're given advice they ignore it until they get what they want to hear and Yada yada yada. Sometimes that's true but you're and ego maniacal condescending preachy prick regardless.

What's the difference between Dr. Jim and God?...God doesn't think he's Dr. Jim.

Prick

i tip my hat to you, sir!

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

Without blood results we don't even know if your Test is legit. It may be low T and you're just running bunk or severly underdosed Test.

 

[Dr JIM]

Dr. Jim, I don't care how long you've been here or how much you're respected by other members or what your contributions are. You're very simply a total dick.
The OP doesn't have an attitude. He's answering questions and simply asking for help on a board that was designed to do just that. Help people with steroid related questions and issues.
You are repeatedly condescending and demeaning to people unless they're "cool" enough to be in your fanboy click.
Yea yea I know. You act like that because poeople ask for help and when they're given advice they ignore it until they get what they want to hear and Yada yada yada. Sometimes that's true but you're and ego maniacal condescending preachy prick regardless.

What's the difference between Dr. Jim and God?...God doesn't think he's Dr. Jim.

Prick

Oh I know I've heard it all before
Jimmy won't hold hands and sugar coat the facts so others feel sorry for those who are playing games with the truth.

The fact is the OP is NOT "looking for help"!
He knows full well why he is "NOT responding to TT" at a dosage of 500Mg/WEEK, as he's already been informed the problem is FUNCTIONAL.

Yet your to foolish to see and understand the significance of the OPs comments bc I've been there and done that many times before Clown.

But if you want to play his game and offer advice on optimal hormonal regulation in those with endogenous mood disorders feel free to do so, it's an open forum, lol!

So what's the difference between
Melly Mel and the OP? NOTHING!