What's the trick to feeling great on steroids?

[Morefyah]

Try changing your diet man. It could help with your energy and sex drive.
Also look into maybe puffing a little ganja and some meditation for that anxiety and stress.

 

[Robfromga]

Stop being a little bitch.
No good docs in you're small town? Do you not own a car,a computer and a phone? Find one. Sometimes it takes a few tries.
Jamming compounds to make yourself "feel" better is a dangerous road because you don't have a clue.
You may have low T, but you also have a personal or mental issue. Fix that shit first. Who proscribed the antidepressant? Clearly you've looked down the mental road already. You have a mental issue that might be compounded by low T, however a test level of 3500 isn't going to fix ANY OF YOUR PROBLEMS

 

[Robfromga]

Or you should just start a Tren cycle. 700mg tren a per week, so 100mg per day. And add in 500 test per week. You'll be fine.

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

Oh I know I've heard it all before
Jimmy won't hold hands and sugar coat the facts so others feel sorry for those who are playing games with the truth.

The fact is the OP is NOT "looking for help"!
He knows full well why he is "NOT responding to TT" at a dosage of 500Mg/WEEK, as he's already been informed the problem is FUNCTIONAL.

Yet your to foolish to see and understand the significance of the OPs comments bc I've been there and done that many times before Clown.

But if you want to play his game and offer advice on optimal hormonal regulation in those with endogenous mood disorders feel free to do so, it's an open forum, lol!

So what's the difference between
Melly Mel and the OP? NOTHING!

lol.
There's a little bit of a difference. About 20 more years of experience and probably 20+ more cycles.
I don't disagree with what you say the vast majority of the time. I just don't understand why you have to be such a prick.
You know your shit. I won't deny that. And I have many many years of personal experience and research to draw from (not a Dr. though) We're both far more knowledgeable on the subject than the OP. No matter what his problem, don't you think he'd be more likely to take your good advise and you coukd help him if you didn't insult and demean him. You're a Dr., correct? Aren't you supposed to help people?
Maybe because you have the Dr. Prefix in front of your name I'm holding you to a higher standard. Ok...so maybe that's wrong of me. I just figured your a Dr. So you should help people not make them feel like a tool. My bad.

Please don't take what I said as I feel you should coddle him and hold his hand. I'm not saying that either.

Aw fuck it. What the hell do I care. It's a fucking message board. Just keep being a prick. You're fine. I'm gonna go pick things up and put things down now.

 

[BigSky]

There is no trick to feeling good on steroids. You don't feel like superman. Do you remember how you felt when you were 18. It's that feeling. Your testosterone is high. That's it. You want to feel good, than do mood altering substances. The reason people say they feel great on steroids is because they allow them to progress in areas that they were stalling at, be it plateaus in body building or low test feelings when your old. I feel great using them because I'm moving forward and every day progressing wiTh my body and my goals. It's a feeling of accomplishment and success. That's it. I get the same feeling off the gear when I crush a new pr. I get the same feeling when I get a promotion. Or when accomplish something that was difficult and hard earned.

It sounds like you are expecting steroids to be like cocaine. If your not using them to progress in life and are just using them to "feel good" your using them for the wrong reasons and you will never get the good feeling.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

The only time i ever felt "good" from taking anything steroid related was when i used 19-nor pro hormones.

Had an obscene amount of energy and a feeling of well being. Short lived though, but man, that was nice!

 

[Modifiedamerican]

When I said feeling great on steroids what I'm meaning is feeling energized, being able to get up in the morning, not being tired and wanting to go to bed at 5 o'clock. Normal things a 28 year old male should be able to do with no problem. Things I've never been able to do. thr issues I was having before I learned I had severely low t was constantly tired, no sex drive, hard time building muscle in the gym, being completely exhausted after the gym. Ive been on anxiety medicine since a very young age. I have lived with it long enough to be able to control is some what, I know my triggers and I know how to calm my self down. But when you wake up out of a dead sleep so anxious you have to shit, that I can't control. I had my cortisol checked. That was fine. When I mean I've had lots of testing to find out why I'm tired all the time I mean if. T3 and t4 was fine. The ONLY thing was not normal is my testosterone levels. Here was my results. I wish I would have double checked everything before ordering because there's a few things I later found out I should have checked but anyway here's the results.And I used the testosterone calculator and according to that I should have for my free testosterone 67.4 ng/dl , and I'm not sure what bioavailability means but that is 1757 ng/dl.

 

[Hotrods12]

I'm currently not seeing a docotor anymore. Reason being is he got my estrogen so high and didn't know how to get it to come down. I ended up taking 4 different medications that he wanted me to take to get my estrogen to come down and couldn't.

Well than I wouldve ask to see a new doctor, obv if you keep uping your test dose and Its not fixing the problem, than clearly that is not the problem. I wouldnt be going up in hopes that its going to help till you go see an Endo and you get all the proper blood work done to see where you levels are at, you should not need 500mg of test for trt

 

[Leangains4life]

I find when i drink alot of water i have alot beter days. Wake up and drink 1,5 litres with all my pils like animal pak proviron ecr

 

[Modifiedamerican]

I'm pretty much tapped out of money right now. My previous doctor was costing me $600-$800 a month and I went to him for a year.

 

[Hotrods12]

View attachment 53727 When I said feeling great on steroids what I'm meaning is feeling energized, being able to get up in the morning, not being tired and wanting to go to bed at 5 o'clock. Normal things a 28 year old male should be able to do with no problem. Things I've never been able to do. thr issues I was having before I learned I had severely low t was constantly tired, no sex drive, hard time building muscle in the gym, being completely exhausted after the gym. Ive been on anxiety medicine since a very young age. I have lived with it long enough to be able to control is some what, I know my triggers and I know how to calm my self down. But when you wake up out of a dead sleep so anxious you have to shit, that I can't control. I had my cortisol checked. That was fine. When I mean I've had lots of testing to find out why I'm tired all the time I mean if. T3 and t4 was fine. The ONLY thing was not normal is my testosterone levels. Here was my results. I wish I would have double checked everything before ordering because there's a few things I later found out I should have checked but anyway here's the results.And I used the testosterone calculator and according to that I should have for my free testosterone 67.4 ng/dl , and I'm not sure what bioavailability means but that is 1757 ng/dl.

Maybe if your tired all day and not sleeping you should go get checked for sleep apena, I have it so just something you could look into

 

[The Rock]

Based on 20 plus years of use I can say feeling like superman goes along with controlling your estrogen and other levels.Once you do that you'll feel great and that's why you use them


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[Robfromga]

OP I'm about double your age. On trt. Cycle some other stuff, sometimes its just the trt.... Tell you what, I hit the fucking snooze and pull the blankets over my head. Some days i pop right the fuck up. Some days I can bone my lady for hours until she has to beg me to stop. Some days I have no interest.

Its life. You need a counselor. You may have low t, but that's not your problem and you just might be your own problem.

 

[BigSky]

500mg a week is enough for a good blast. 250 is extremely high trt dose and a low dose blast. 200 is also a high trt dose. If you are anywhere around those numbers and are not feeling better. I guarantee it's not testosterone related. It's something else.

I'd suggest following this protocol or better yet a doctors. Use 150mg a week of test, 500-750iu of hcg and add an aromatase inhibitor based on blood work to keep your estrogen in normal range. That could vary as little as .25mg adex e3d or as much as 1mg a day. Depends on how heavily you aromatise. But you'll need blood work to figure out the correct dose. That will solve you're low test issue.

If you have issues after that it's something else. Which it sounds to me that it's more psychological in your case. Anxiety and depression suck bro. I'm in the same boat. But adding high doses of steroids will not make them better

 

[Modifiedamerican]

When I was at 120mg a week my free test was only at 8.4 and my total test was 429 and that was 3 months along with .5ml of hcg a week. He wouldn't increase if any more and my estrogen was just as high as it is now. He prescribed be 1mg of arimdex a week and it make me sick, dropped down to .5 a week and that still made me sick. To the point I was throwing up daily. I stopped taking of and a couple days later I felt fine. He wouldn't prescribe me anything else. Instead he put me on a bunch of zinc, which I ended up getting zinc poisoning. Then broccoli pills, that didn't lower it. D calcium glucarate. That didn't do anything. They pretty much told me they didn't have any more option in nice way. The closest trt clinics that I've looked at are 2 hrs away which is fine. But they have to do the injections for you. Which with the work I do i can't just take off during the week twice a week for 8 hours. The closest after that is 4 hours away, or in another state which my insurence won't cover anything if it's another State. My blood work alone if my insurance didn't cover it was $1400. So do you guys see my struggle. I get I have anxiety and everyday isn't going to be golden which I understand. I just want to feel like a healthy 28 year old male that doesn't want to go to bed at 5oclock every night ( which since being on test that has gotten better). But with my high estrogen I think that's probably why my sex drive is shot along with some of my energy.

 

[BigSky]

I drive 4 hours each way to another state to get my blood work. There's a whole thread on here to get bloodwork done. And it cheap too like $60-100 depending on tests. Maybe adex just doesn't agree with you. There is stil aromasin. I really don't think you'll need more than 150-170mg a week but I'm not a doctor and don't take my advice as truth. Hcg will spike your e2 a little but by taking 6.25mg adex ed or eod I think you'll be ok until you get blood work. What dose hcg were you taking. .5ml isn't specific at all.

 

[Modifiedamerican]

The blood work I posted was done my self. Luckily I live in Indiana and am able to do it. I'm lowering my dose and will try an ai. I'm not really sure where to get it so I'm a little stressed about that. I just got lucky with the test. Doing things my self were my very last option to try and get some quality of life. For not only myself but my wife. The hcg was already measured and put into a syringe when I was going to the doctor. All I know is .5ml.

 

[BigSky]

Hcg is sold in powder and reconstituted with bac water. That means depending on concentration it could be anywhere from 1iu to 10000iu.
The same place you got test will probably have ais.

 

[ddp7]

Easy Guys, relax,dont fight for these issues.
Thanks for the new replies and I would like to say that Im not an "smartass"Just trying to learn of you Guys.
Again,thanks so much, specially to Dr.Jim.
Will open my own thread with my full story in a few days.
Stay tuned Man,
Saludos y Gracias

 

[jJjburton]

There is no trick to feeling good on steroids. You don't feel like superman. Do you remember how you felt when you were 18. It's that feeling. Your testosterone is high. That's it. You want to feel good, than do mood altering substances. The reason people say they feel great on steroids is because they allow them to progress in areas that they were stalling at, be it plateaus in body building or low test feelings when your old. I feel great using them because I'm moving forward and every day progressing wiTh my body and my goals. It's a feeling of accomplishment and success. That's it. I get the same feeling off the gear when I crush a new pr. I get the same feeling when I get a promotion. Or when accomplish something that was difficult and hard earned.

It sounds like you are expecting steroids to be like cocaine. If your not using them to progress in life and are just using them to "feel good" your using them for the wrong reasons and you will never get the good feeling.

well said.