Eddie.
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TBH i don't know the exact reason behind this but that would be my guess. I've read something about 40mg tadalafil still couldn't raise the flag.
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What's with deca?
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TBH i don't know the exact reason behind this but that would be my guess. I've read something about 40mg tadalafil still couldn't raise the flag.
There was a post I read saying that ed pills help with blood flow which isn't the problem with deca, it's the high prolactin among other things
CraneKraken
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Yeah, same here. I'd say it's that way for a lot of us and precisely why most guys don't touch it.
I tolerate most compounds really well. My hair is solid, I don't get gyno and even when I run a gram of test I don't really need an AI -I have taken aromosin in the past though. Yet whenever I try Deca my dick goes down like a bear hibernating for winter, which sucks b/c I love the full look I get on Deca. Just to experiment I am currently taking fairly low dose NPP. I worked my way up to 400mgs per week and that sent my dick back into hibernation mode. This past week I dropped it to 200mgs to go along with 850mgs of Test and 600mgs of Tren E, with an 8iu GH bolus before bed. My hope is that I can stay at 200mgs of the NPP, get a lot of its benefits and still function like normal in the bedroom. I also take Cialis pwo and have Viagra on hand in case of emergency.
The only other compound I've taken where the sides outweigh the benefits is oral Winstrol. I have a full head of hair but as soon as I started Winstrol I started shedding for the first time. I am 45, so thinning is to be expected but the Winny caused clumps of 15-20 hairs to come out when washing and combing it. It scared the shit outta me! Suffice to say, the benefits of Deca + Winny just aren't worth being being an aging but jacked bald guy with a broken schwanzer.
lukiss96
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Deca for me is a weird one. I don't understand how from good gains and good mood, loving healthy food I suddenly mid cycle change in to depressed, bloated, unmotivated bitch who hates life.
Now I understand females and why they feel like they feel during their period. This shit is serious and hormones do play a major role.
Hopefully that did answer the question and somehow gave my perspective and reasoning for avoiding deca.
As for NPP it's totally different, no back up for the claim except my own experience and some other bros would say so too.
Now I understand females and why they feel like they feel during their period. This shit is serious and hormones do play a major role.
Hopefully that did answer the question and somehow gave my perspective and reasoning for avoiding deca.
As for NPP it's totally different, no back up for the claim except my own experience and some other bros would say so too.
CraneKraken
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Amen brotha! There is truly nothing better in the world than watching your kids grow and develop. I know it's super cliché and not on topic but they really do grow up fast. You definitely want to be present and in the moment so you can soak it all in as much as possible. There's something to be said for a father and daughter relationship too, especially when they're young and you're their hero. My daughter is 21 and we are still very close. I got full custody of her when she was an infant and never looked back. She's currently studying abroad in Italy and she has her choice of grad schools next year, as she seeks a masters degree in Forensic Psych. I'm just a roof contractor. I swing a hammer everyday and here is my little girl traveling the world and going for her masters degree. I like to think this is because despite not ever having her mother present she had a strong and loving father who helped guide her toward becoming the successful young woman she is today. And, it all sort of starts with rolling around on the floor with them, chasing them around the yard, stacking blocks together, tucking them in at night, etc., and just being solid and strong for them.
*anyway, just penny or two on being a dad. Your "I can't afford to be too lazy to chase her around on the floor and playing with her" comment brought back memories of being a young dad with a toddler.
Godspeed, brotha.
lukiss96
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Dire une telle chose n'est pas juste. C'est probablement trop compliqué à appliquer à tous. Les différences individuelles sont peut-être trop importantes. Pour ceux qui supportent mal le déca, il est peut-être sage de l'éviter complètement. Désolé pour mon Français moyen, mon collègue européen méso.
xrayphoton13
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This brought a tear to my eye.
Think I need to check my estrogen! Just kidding
Love this man. What an awesome story. So glad you shared it. I'm sure you're super proud of her. I can't wait to see who my daughter grows up to be. But hopefully not too fast. Yesterday she stood up and balanced on her own for 15 seconds before leaning over on me. I still can't believe things are already moving this fast. Because I feel like I just brought her home from the hospital!
laclark89
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I honestly dont get how some guys like and get along well with npp vs decca?
Imo only thing that makes sense is timings.
It’s literally exactly the same compound but different ester.
Mabe test to decca ratio? I always have done 2 parts test 1 part decca. Due to pure bro science lol never wanted to play with it.
Same thing that makes no sense to me that I have heard and read a lot some people feel they get zero joint pain relief from npp but get it from regular decca?
Individual response or placebo?
Imo only thing that makes sense is timings.
It’s literally exactly the same compound but different ester.
Mabe test to decca ratio? I always have done 2 parts test 1 part decca. Due to pure bro science lol never wanted to play with it.
Same thing that makes no sense to me that I have heard and read a lot some people feel they get zero joint pain relief from npp but get it from regular decca?
Individual response or placebo?
laclark89
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That’s awesome, thanks for posting that. I can probably learn a thing or 2.
Me and my kids have always been super close. Parks, walks/hikes , family trips, sports and coaching sports for them. Always eating dinner as a family, fishing. I’ve done about everything I can and since then they are both getting close to graduating hs they don’t want much to do with me, and are more into their cell phones and games.
Ateam2023
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I'm getting awesome joint relief from npp , I haven't messed with deca (long ester) in years and years, that was a popular cycle when i was in my 20's test/deca,,
Grey Spartan
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Probably lunatics hopped up on over analysis and lacking the intellectual capacity to know the difference between causation vs correlation.
But I can not rule out individual response. lol
CraneKraken
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Thank you, brotha! I really appreciate that. Yeah, I'm incredibly proud of her. I also miss her terribly. We talk every day but it's not the same as making dinner and talking about our day together. So last week she rode camels along the Mediterranean coast in Morocco and the week before that she went paragliding along the Alps in Switzerland -We went skydiving for her high school graduation gift and it was awesome but she said paragliding was even better. So now I'm considering a surprise visit so we can go paragliding in Switzerland together but there are some logistic hurdles. Anyway, next week she's going to London and then Ireland, followed by trips to Croatia, Hungary, and a short visit to Amsterdam. She's worked really hard to get where she is and that hard work is what I'm most proud of.
I honestly envy you, man. I always wanted another baby but it just wasn't in the cards and my current missus can't for medical reasons. Picturing your baby standing up all wobbly, then falling into dad's arms hit me in the feelz. That's what it's all about. Those moments are the best and every day it'll be something new to enjoy, which makes those sleepless nights that first yr or two well worth it. Ha- I'm a sucker for babies anyway, but maybe my estrogen is a bit too high as well.
Unfortunately it does go fast. You don't realize it in the moment but when you look back you'll be blown away with how quick she grew up. That's why I always say, be present and soak it all in. Appreciate every moment, take a ton of pics/vids and just smother your kids with love. My daughter and I don't ever part ways or hang up the phone without saying, I love you. It's always been that way and as silly as things like that might sound they do matter. I'd say especially if you're a dad raising a daughter.
Keep up the good work, brotha. I'm happy for you. You have a ton to look forward to.
*apologies for the long reply. I can be long winded at times.
CraneKraken
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You probably don't need to learn a thing, brotha. Those are the toughest years for every parent. Our kids are little shits at that age. You know how it was when we were in our late teens. Every kid is trying to break free from their parents and they think they know everything there is to know about life. They always come back into the fold once they grow up a bit and see how harsh the real world can be. They'll also eventually learn to appreciate everything you did with them, and for them. Sounds like they're just at the peak of the "know it all" phase. Mine went through it too. I think we all basically went through some form it at that age. Social media doesn't help though. That shit is like cancer to a developing brain.
I was lucky in that I got to raise my daughter on my own, which allowed me to instill in her my own values and morals. More importantly, it allowed me to make her my main focus and aside from my ex who lived with us for 8yrs, it's really only been the two of us -couple girlfriends here & there but none that moved in. That helped keep us close even after she left for college.
Thank you for sharing, as well. I know this isn't a parenting forum but we are mostly men here and it can't hurt to hear what other dad's are dealing with on occasion. It's good to mix in some regular life stuff on occasion.
Godspeed, brotha!
CraneKraken
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So your two kids are graduating soon? If so you should consider taking them skydiving as a graduation gift. I did it for mine and it was an awesome experience. I highly recommend it and I bet your kids would love it. If they graduate in different years just make it a family tradition for all graduation days. The more skydiving the better.
