Black Beard
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Didnt you use to take the GH PM pre-bed? What difference do you notice between then?
I also recall you avoided going over 2 iu due to water retention.
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Didnt you use to take the GH PM pre-bed? What difference do you notice between then?
I also recall you avoided going over 2 iu due to water retention.
UncleBuns
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Tried GH AM and peptides pre bed and found greatly improved sleep quality. I don't get any drowsiness from the AM GH.
I do have more water retention than I like right now, but by most people's standards it's fine. Personally, I like to be quite dry so I'm very critical of any water retention. The benefits I'm seeing from this protocol make it worthwhile right now though. Honestly, it's mostly a vanity thing.
You mean GH pre bed was disrupting your sleep? Have you tried a different brand while doing the PM? I've seen quite a few posts from people experiencing a worse sleep quality with GH before bed compared to baseline, it's just weird how different we all react to substances.
When i first started GH (directly 3,5 IU) it was all before bed and for couple weeks the feedback from my smartwatch was excellent, i was scoring from 86-89% with 3 hours deep sleep, 3 hours light sleep and almost 2 hours REM. That was with QSC, now i'm using lobster's and my sleep is worse. Average 77-82% with 1:30h deep sleep, 5h light sleep and 1:15h REM.
MA11
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Damn, and I like the water gained from GH. 5 kg within a few days and it looks like it is all in the right spot.
One man's blessing is another man's curse.
UncleBuns
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My sleep was fine taking it pre bed and I still will depending on the phase I'm in. Sleep is better with the peptides though.
UncleBuns
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It's not crazy water retention. Enough sub-q water that it's noticable to me though. Not a big deal.
Jeffholio5
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40 year old current stack:
Daily:
Test E 125mg
Tren E 50mg
Deca 50mg
EQ 100mg
Mast P 100mg
Hgh 8iu
Humulin R 20 iu split throughout the day
20mg anavar on workout days
Losartan 50mg daily
Tadalfil 5-10mg daily depending on “tasks” planned that day
Nebivolol 5mg daily
Others:
Bpc157/ghk-cu/mots-c 3x week combined pin
Reta 2mg weekly
B12 sq weekly
MIC blend sq weekly
Oral Supplements:
Magnesium glycinate daily
Potassium chloride daily
Zinc daily
Dhea/pregnenolone/dim weekly
Berberine nightly after last meal
Skin:
Ghk-cu and beef tallow facial cream 3x a week
Daily benzoyl peroxide wash in problem areas
Hair (not that I have a ton but fighting the losing battle):
Dutasteride 1.25mg weekly oral
Training:
Goal 5-6 days in the gym mostly PPL routine sometimes gets fucked up by night shift sleep
Patterns but still pretty consistent especially on days off work. Averages to about 5 days per week. Start day with 20 min of fasted cardio on the elliptical at moderate to high resistance.
Diet:
Shitshow mostly high protein low fat and carb though, 100% room for improvement here but while on glp1s I’m just tying to maintain or slow gain lean mass while losing what left of my fat ass.
Current stats:
40 year old
6’2”
210-216 lbs last few weeks go back and forth daily but no higher or lower than that.
BF% is a guess but around 18-20% working on getting that down right now
Dick size:
average
Daily:
Test E 125mg
Tren E 50mg
Deca 50mg
EQ 100mg
Mast P 100mg
Hgh 8iu
Humulin R 20 iu split throughout the day
20mg anavar on workout days
Losartan 50mg daily
Tadalfil 5-10mg daily depending on “tasks” planned that day
Nebivolol 5mg daily
Others:
Bpc157/ghk-cu/mots-c 3x week combined pin
Reta 2mg weekly
B12 sq weekly
MIC blend sq weekly
Oral Supplements:
Magnesium glycinate daily
Potassium chloride daily
Zinc daily
Dhea/pregnenolone/dim weekly
Berberine nightly after last meal
Skin:
Ghk-cu and beef tallow facial cream 3x a week
Daily benzoyl peroxide wash in problem areas
Hair (not that I have a ton but fighting the losing battle):
Dutasteride 1.25mg weekly oral
Training:
Goal 5-6 days in the gym mostly PPL routine sometimes gets fucked up by night shift sleep
Patterns but still pretty consistent especially on days off work. Averages to about 5 days per week. Start day with 20 min of fasted cardio on the elliptical at moderate to high resistance.
Diet:
Shitshow mostly high protein low fat and carb though, 100% room for improvement here but while on glp1s I’m just tying to maintain or slow gain lean mass while losing what left of my fat ass.
Current stats:
40 year old
6’2”
210-216 lbs last few weeks go back and forth daily but no higher or lower than that.
BF% is a guess but around 18-20% working on getting that down right now
Dick size:
average
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Losartan can cause hyperkalemia.
Jeffholio5
Member
That’s fair I check my labs regularly and have never been close to hyperkalemia and I drink a ton of water daily but yeah definitely worth considering. Does telmisartan do the same? I know they are both arbs.
I think all of the ARBs have that risk.
Jeffholio5
Member
Also I forgot to add I take for liver and kidney:
Tudca
Milk thistle
Nac
Astragalus
Tudca
Milk thistle
Nac
Astragalus
malfeasance
Well-known Member
80 daily telmisartan and my labs do not show anything out of whack
I am not sure how common it is for the levels to actually rise to something out of range
As long as you are doing regular bloodwork, just be aware of it and keep an eye on it. Sounds like it is not an issue for you.
Trenbolonetax
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same. 80mg daily telmisartan for the last decade. zero issues with hyperkalemia. on all sorts of diets even mainlining coconut water (great source of potassium).
MA11
Member
I think the potato is THE source of potassium, if it is in your diet.
Potassium comes from potato!
Potassium comes from potato!
Ateam2023
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181
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50mgs of Test prop & 4iu of growth a day.
181
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Ive been running that combo for 15 years. Only the last 4 years Ive been doing 50mgs of prop a day before that I was doing 100mgs a day. I lost no strength or size dropping to 50mgs a day. I brew my own prop. I don't put as much BA in it so either that has helped or my body has gotten used to it. I don't get any pip from prop. I actually get more pip from enanthate. I switched from enanth/cyp to prop as my test back in 2006 to help keep some water weight off of me to make weight for the powerlifting I was doing. I was starting to get too far above my weight class from the bloat.
malfeasance
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Without breaks?
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