when do you take you hgh ?

[xmerola85]

im 30 and looking to get the best results. I plan to do a 10 month hgh cycle with 750 mg test e and var will be added about midway. I will also take t4 the whole time. I was reading how for men 30 with no gh problems would get the best effects taking it upon waking and another empty stomach dose like preworkout or post. I before recently always thought before bed was the best because every dr would like to only say that but the reasonn makes sense. They would assume if your taking gh your levels are low and you need it so before bed would be better for a older man who needs it but a man 30 looking to look his best it may ruin your own production. When do you men take it

 

[Dr JIM]

Another lets split hairs question, bc the dosage is what is primarily responsible for the efficacy of GH as a PED, rather than the time of days it's injected.

This question has been asked on several occasions previously which compels me to believe it arises from the belief the exogenous administration of GH does not alter GHRF levels, when it most certainly does!

 

[PityPablo]

3 i.u. preWo and 3 i.u before bed

 

[PityPablo]

That's how I do this

 

[Big)LOUU]

I’ve run it too 6iu 5 days a week. 3iu pre workout and 3iu before sleep, feel myself totally great

 

[Dr JIM]

I’ve run it too 6iu 5 days a week. 3iu pre workout and 3iu before sleep, feel myself totally great

I know of very few ADULTS who can tolerate 6IU of Ph grade GH on a daily basis.

 

[xmerola85]

i was thinking waking up would better than preworkout , I wake up very early for work so my plan is set alarm like an hour before i have to wake shoot it quick then get sleep for an hour more so i can get a few solid hours of empty sto mach. Wouldunt carbs or anything after a workout negate alot of hghs absorption? also do you guys sub q or muscle inject ? i was thinking half sub q half im whats your takes?

 

[naturalkon]

i was thinking waking up would better than preworkout , I wake up very early for work so my plan is set alarm like an hour before i have to wake shoot it quick then get sleep for an hour more so i can get a few solid hours of empty sto mach. Wouldunt carbs or anything after a workout negate alot of hghs absorption? also do you guys sub q or muscle inject ? i was thinking half sub q half im whats your takes?

Don't worry about carbs. That's more for peptides

 

[naturalkon]

I know of very few ADULTS who can tolerate 6IU of Ph grade GH on a daily basis.

Can't tolerate the effects or the cost. Jk

 

[Big)LOUU]

I know of very few ADULTS who can tolerate 6IU of Ph grade GH on a daily basis.

I know guys, who run 10 iu pre show. 6 iu a day completely normal dose, of course if your not first time user

 

[Dr JIM]

I know guys, who run 10 iu pre show. 6 iu a day completely normal dose, of course if your not first time user

Yep and in almost every instance its under-dosed GENERIC GH!

 

[xmerola85]

i have 5 kits of thegreytop i got a great deal and seen the results even after reading all those testing threads dr jim lol. The was iu to iu cheaper i know its not the best reason to try but i had the deal in my face and it was cheaper than i seen from the major sources so i grabbed like 6 months worth and if im not getting anything ill splurge on the hg

 

[pmac928]

I've tried all te different timing methods bro science has to offer. Not a single one made any difference. Do what is easiest for you. My hands would swell the next morning regardless if I took my shots early or later in the day. What works now is after my workout.

 

[Wunderpus]

I know of very few ADULTS who can tolerate 6IU of Ph grade GH on a daily basis.

This is sooo true. I used to try and run serostims at 7iu's a day. A month in was fine, I really didn't notice much. At about 6-8 weeks my hands were so numb and "full" feeling that I could barely grab the bar at the gym. I lowered to 3iu's and that was good to go.

I imagine if you worked your way up 7iu's would be tolerable. However, even at a month on generics at 5iu's a day I am feeling hand numbness. Maybe I am more sensitive to it? Or, predisposed since it was triggered by the GH in the past? I donno. But, I do know that 10iu's of pharma grade sounds ridiculous to me, I am not sure I will even bump these generics to 10iu's.

 

[ironwill1951]

I know guys, who run 10 iu pre show. 6 iu a day completely normal dose, of course if your not first time user

Yep and in almost every instance its under-dosed GENERIC GH![/QUOTE

and if your using 10 iu of generic you might as well pay the extra cash and use 4 iu of pharm grade..

 

[mands]

I don't know how much a difference it makes if any what time you actually take your gh but I do know one big dose will yield higher IGF-1 levels than say taking the same amount spread through out the day. Taking one shot vs. multiple shots will also raise IGF-1 levels quicker.

I personally take before bedtime and seem to work great. When I'm blasting gh I will run 5-6 iu's a day in one shot.

mands

 

[Dr JIM]

I don't know how much a difference it makes if any what time you actually take your gh but I do know one big dose will yield higher IGF-1 levels than say taking the same amount spread through out the day. Taking one shot vs. multiple shots will also raise IGF-1 levels quicker.

I personally take before bedtime and seem to work great. When I'm blasting gh I will run 5-6 iu's a day in one shot.

mands

Yep I suspect what you're referring to are studies on kids with growth retardation who were given GH in one of several ways such as once a day, twice a day or even QOD.

The studies I've seen do show a statistical difference ranging from an absolute increase in IGF of 20 to 50mIU/ml.

However only one study revealed the difference resulted in accelerated BONY growth.

Obviously GH does not cause linear bony growth in adults and its effects on muscular hypertrophy are less than impressive especially in the absence of either insulin or TT.

Do such IGF improvements make much of a difference for BB?

I would argue since a 20-30% increase in ones TT level (a firmly established anabolic drug) does not result in significant improvements in muscular hypertrophy, I doubt similar changes in ones IGF levels would be any different.

 

[Dr JIM]

This is sooo true. I used to try and run serostims at 7iu's a day. A month in was fine, I really didn't notice much. At about 6-8 weeks my hands were so numb and "full" feeling that I could barely grab the bar at the gym. I lowered to 3iu's and that was good to go.

I imagine if you worked your way up 7iu's would be tolerable. However, even at a month on generics at 5iu's a day I am feeling hand numbness. Maybe I am more sensitive to it? Or, predisposed since it was triggered by the GH in the past? I donno. But, I do know that 10iu's of pharma grade sounds ridiculous to me, I am not sure I will even bump these generics to 10iu's.

These adverse effects of GH are FIRMLY established in the literature and is THE REASON all Pharmaceutical GH manufacturers recommend an upward TITRATION in GH dosing over the course of SEVERAL MONTHS.

How many times have I seen a thread about some GH noob who is complaining about the adverse effects of even legit generic GH after pinning as little as 2-3 IU!

Moreover slowly titrating the dose of GH is even more important in adults who's GH tolerance is even more labile and less capricious

 

[ironwill1951]

I don't know how much a difference it makes if any what time you actually take your gh but I do know one big dose will yield higher IGF-1 levels than say taking the same amount spread through out the day. Taking one shot vs. multiple shots will also raise IGF-1 levels quicker.

I personally take before bedtime and seem to work great. When I'm blasting gh I will run 5-6 iu's a day in one shot.

mands

@mands when your not blasting how many iu do you use for a maintenance dose ? or don't you use gh unless blasting

 

[Dr JIM]

@mands when your not blasting how many iu do you use for a maintenance dose ? or don't you use gh unless blasting

WOO NOW, let's be careful here bc noobs with MUCH less experience are following this thread!

My point is a very important distinction should be made, MANDS is NOT YOUR AVERAGE MESO MEMBER or anything close to it! (He's a machine, )

Consequently those new to GH should follow pharm grade dosing guidelines!