Which administration is more AS friendly? Trump or Biden

[Mihael Karner]

Having indictment for AS trade since 2010, which administration would be more friendly if I decided to go to trial ? Biden or Trump, after the election?
Normally they swap state attorneys after elected.
What do you think?
It would be of course my decision to go or not at all.

Thank you
Mihael Karner

 

[bighunanballs]

Ron Paul lol. If trump selects rfk as his running mate maybe that will swing him more libertarian

 

[Mihael Karner]

Andrew Lelling - Wikipedia

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This guy (republican) decided to file several indictments against us europeans 15 years ago. A lot has changed since than. Seemed very personal. I am worried he will return to old position of state attorney.

 

[Mihael Karner]

https://2017-2021.state.gov/press-briefing-via-telephone-on-narcotics-reward-program/

What do you guys think?
What should I do?
I am not afraid of trial, however with all the negative publication, I am afraid I will mind not have fair trial if I decide to voluntarily come to US.

 

[RaddishPork]

Your state officials are going to matter 1000000x more than the federal government. It usually wouldn’t become a federal matter unless you’re distributing it across state lines or have a metric shit ton of gear.

For example- weed is still federally illegal. You can still go to jail for weed in Texas. However Oregon and Washington have designated places for junkies to shoot up in public.

Although I did just read that Oregon is re-criminalizing a lot of drugs.

To answer the question though…. Probably Biden’s administration would be softer on AAS.

 

[Mihael Karner]

Your state officials are going to matter 1000000x more than the federal government. It usually wouldn’t become a federal matter unless you’re distributing it across state lines or have a metric shit ton of gear.

For example- weed is still federally illegal. You can still go to jail for weed in Texas. However Oregon and Washington have designated places for junkies to shoot up in public.

Although I did just read that Oregon is re-criminalizing a lot of drugs.

To answer the question though…. Probably Biden’s administration would be softer on AAS.

Thank you for the opinion.

I apologize for a very sensitive subject. I just would like to get some suggestions. I am sure will be all over the news if I decide to come.
However, the indictment was dismissed in Slovenia (my native country) for the same alleged “crimes”

 

[RaddishPork]

Thank you for the opinion.

I apologize for a very sensitive subject. I just would like to get some suggestions. I am sure will be all over the news if I decide to come.
However, the indictment was dismissed in Slovenia (my native country) for the same alleged “crimes”

I personally wouldn’t turn myself in. Let them come and get you. It would be the same punishment anyways.

If they want someone in jail bad enough they will make it happen.

 

[Mihael Karner]

I personally wouldn’t turn myself in. Let them come and get you. It would be the same punishment anyways.

If they want someone in jail bad enough they will make it happen.

It is not possible. Extradition of own citizens is prohibited in my country . I am considering to come voluntarily.

 

[trengod1992]

Biden as a vp and as a congressman made steroids a controlled 3 substance and made prohomones illegal to sell as supplements in his vp years

 

[Millard]

There is a lot of partisan bias that will lead many to say either Democratic or Republican administrations would bring about more favorable approach to AAS-related prosecution. I don't think there is any meaningful difference in actual practice. AAS legalization/decriminalization isn't a platform that either party is invested in.

I have suspicions that this is really the "Mihael Karner'' designated by President Obama as a "Significant Foreign Narcotics Trafficker" or "kingpin" under the Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act.

But as a designated kingpin with a $15 million government bounty for information related to his and his family's apprehension, the likelihood of receiving favorable treatment at trial in the U.S. after being a fugitive for almost 15 years is approaching zero.

The terms of his surrender would be something that he and his attorneys negotiate with the State Department that could involve things like dropping charges against his wife or family members or removing sanctions or releasing select assets in exchange for voluntary surrender. Even in the best of circumstances, this would likely still involve a sentence of decades in U.S. prison. What would make this worthwhile?

We can all talk about how laughable it is for a AAS trafficker to be equated with the Mexican and Colombian cartel kingpins and whether Karner's network should be on the same kingpin list. However, I guarantee that federal prosecutors will use everything in their war chest to justify that comparison/designation.

 

[Mihael Karner]

Dear Millard

Yes it is really me, now older but smarter. You can PM me for the verification.
Andrew Lelling was a state attorney back then, now he is a lawyer:

Andrew E. Lelling | Lawyers

Andrew Lelling is a former United States Attorney and senior Department of Justice (DOJ) official with deep experience in white collar, securities, and international enforcement matters.

www.jonesday.com

I don’t understand why he decided to offer the reward, normally it is for the fugitives who are hiding. I am living a normal life in my country. For some reason, he must hate me a lot and took it personally.
Lelling is a republican with a political ambitions.

Thank you

 

[AlexDavis43]

There is a lot of partisan bias that will lead many to say either Democratic or Republican administrations would bring about more favorable approach to AAS-related prosecution. I don't think there is any meaningful difference in actual practice. AAS legalization/decriminalization isn't a platform that either party is invested in.

I have suspicions that this is really the "Mihael Karner'' designated by President Obama as a "Significant Foreign Narcotics Trafficker" or "kingpin" under the Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act.

But as a designated kingpin with a $15 million government bounty for information related to his and his family's apprehension, the likelihood of receiving favorable treatment at trial in the U.S. after being a fugitive for almost 15 years is approaching zero.

The terms of his surrender would be something that he and his attorneys negotiate with the State Department that could involve things like dropping charges against his wife or family members or removing sanctions or releasing select assets in exchange for voluntary surrender. Even in the best of circumstances, this would likely still involve a sentence of decades in U.S. prison. What would make this worthwhile?

We can all talk about how laughable it is for a AAS trafficker to be equated with the Mexican and Colombian cartel kingpins and whether Karner's network should be on the same kingpin list. However, I guarantee that federal prosecutors will use everything in their war chest to justify that comparison/designation.

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This is starting to get ridiculous. Putting AAS dealers in jail but no action on illegal fentanyl importing? This isn't my lane just an opinion. Seems there are much bigger fish to fry wrt harm reduction.

 

[marsupial]

This is starting to get ridiculous. Putting AAS dealers in jail but no action on illegal fentanyl importing? This isn't my lane just an opinion. Seems there are much bigger fish to fry wrt harm reduction.

But from their point of view, AAS market is probably worth far more than the fentanyl one. Think about the kind of people that buy fentanyl and how much they’re willing/able to pay…and then think about the clientele of the AAS market, and how much they pay (oftentimes minimum $200 per pack) to have orders shipped to their house for personal use. All that money is money the government cannot tax and take in any way

 

[laclark89]

It is not possible. Extradition of own citizens is prohibited in my country . I am considering to come voluntarily.

They have a real hard on for you bud.
They made a exception on your statue of limitations.

I think the feds in the us have a 95+ percent conviction rate. When I was having my legal troubles and doing my vacation, I heard it was a 98 or 99+ percent conviction rate. I would be factoring this into my decision making for sure.

They want your ass for sure but they also what your hard earned money. In my opinion no matter what the crime fraud , illegal sales robbery, the more illegal proceeds they can recover from you the better your deal may be.
Enless the are really trying to make a example of u.

 

[Mihael Karner]

After the indictment is out, there is no statute of limitations. However it is on memory of the witnesses. In my case it is 20 years ago, that is what encourages me for the trial.
The fact is that they will never stop, probably not even after I die.
Just wanted to see what are your opinions.
Thank you

 

[RaddishPork]

After the indictment is out, there is no statute of limitations. However it is on memory of the witnesses. In my case it is 20 years ago, that is what encourages me for the trial.
The fact is that they will never stop, probably not even after I die.
Just wanted to see what are your opinions.
Thank you

Just curious. Why exactly are you still thinking about it? It sounds like you are living a normal life in your home country.

Do you want to get the target off your back? Clear your name? Come back to America?

I feel as if I would leave everything in the past and live peacefully in my home country.

And yes the federal conviction rate is above 95% but that is because of informants. The vast majority of people in prison had people telling on them. In murder trials, a prosecutors worst nightmare is
- no murder weapon
- no body
- no informants

I know yours isn’t a violent crime that’s just an example. If they don’t have the cold hard evidence in their hands, or someone who is turning on you, it makes their job tricky. It doesn’t mean they can’t still get you at trial…. But it only takes one jury member to throw everything off. That’s why they need the hard evidence.

 

[Mihael Karner]

Just curious. Why exactly are you still thinking about it? It sounds like you are living a normal life in your home country.

Do you want to get the target off your back? Clear your name? Come back to America?

I feel as if I would leave everything in the past and live peacefully in my home country.

And yes the federal conviction rate is above 95% but that is because of informants. The vast majority of people in prison had people telling on them. In murder trials, a prosecutors worst nightmare is
- no murder weapon
- no body
- no informants

I know yours isn’t a violent crime that’s just an example. If they don’t have the cold hard evidence in their hands, or someone who is turning on you, it makes their job tricky. It doesn’t mean they can’t still get you at trial…. But it only takes one jury member to throw everything off. That’s why they need the hard evidence.

I was always living in Slovenia, never in USA.
5 mil for each (brother and wife) reward is embarrassing and everyone in my home country is asking me about it. I am almost 50 years old and would be nice to clear it.
US lawyers are crazy expensive.

If Trump gets elected, he will swap all state attorneys? Republican friendly? Am I correct?

I know that they will be harder on narcotics but what do you think on AS?

 

[makeway]

I’d argue trump, simply because he hasn’t banned anything. Biden (as a senator) wrote and introduced the bill banning “pro-hormones” back in 2004.

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[Mihael Karner]

I’d argue trump, simply because he hasn’t banned anything. Biden (as a senator) wrote and introduced the bill banning “pro-hormones” back in 2004.

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How is it possible that you make canabis legal, but AS not?
In Europe sterodis are illegal just for use in sports, they are not controlled substances. Laws varies in different countries.
Maybe with use of new substances like Semaglutid, law mind change for anabolics too?
Both are used to change body anyways.

 

[RaddishPork]

How is it possible that you make canabis legal, but AS not?
In Europe sterodis are illegal just for use in sports, they are not controlled substances. Laws varies in different countries.
Maybe with use of new substances like Semaglutid, law mind change for anabolics too?
Both are used to change body anyways.

Because there is a very high amount of smokers and the US government taxes cannabis heavily.
I could buy 10 grams of high quality weed from a dealer for $100. If I go through a legal dispensary it will be closer to $200+ depending on quality and state taxes.

The USA also launched an all-out assault on steroids a few decades ago. When a lot of baseball players and Olympic athletes were getting busted, they cracked down hard. We basically need to be the “opposite” of Russia. So if the Russians were using steroids then America had to tell everyone that it’s evil and you should be in prison for using them. The logic is very stupid but we have been in a lot of conflict just to prove we are “better” than Russia and the east.

Trump has promised to crack down very heavily on fentanyl and the illegal immigration crisis. That will probably be his main focus on top of the economy. But that doesn’t guarantee we’ll go soft on crime.

I’m sure it sucks. That’s a crazy situation but I really wouldn’t come back to the USA unless you’re willing to spend years in prison. It could be months in prison before you even start picking a jury for your trial. And since you’re a foreigner you will be considered a flight risk and forced to stay here.