Which oil is better?

[MadaFacor]

I need some additional feedback so I'm reviving this thread. What are your opinions on Ethyl Oleate? I've located a vendor known for rapid delivery, accepting cash by mail, and with a good long-term reputation in another community. They also offer some specialized pharmaceutical products that are hard to find elsewhere. However, all their oils are in Ethyl Oleate. What experiences have you had with Ethyl Oleate? Personally, I've encountered problems only with GSO. MCT, Cottonseed, and Sunflower oils have all been PIP and side free for me. GSO, terrible welts, swelling, and redness that takes 1+ week to resolve.

 

[Deskoze38192]

I need some additional feedback so I'm reviving this thread. What are your opinions on Ethyl Oleate? I've located a vendor known for rapid delivery, accepting cash by mail, and with a good long-term reputation in another community. They also offer some specialized pharmaceutical products that are hard to find elsewhere. However, all their oils are in Ethyl Oleate. What experiences have you had with Ethyl Oleate? Personally, I've encountered problems only with GSO. MCT, Cottonseed, and Sunflower oils have all been PIP and side free for me. GSO, terrible welts, swelling, and redness that takes 1+ week to resolve.

The problems you had with GSO was it one particular compound? Or one particular source? Or have you tried GSO from other sources and different compounds and had the same reaction every time?
Out of all those, GSO and Cottonseed are least likely to have a reaction for most people (not sure about sunflower). If you definitely have an issue with GSO and it isn’t some other issue while also using a product made with GSO than I would steer clear of EO.
Give us a little more information please

 

[MadaFacor]

The problems you had with GSO was it one particular compound? Or one particular source? Or have you tried GSO from other sources and different compounds and had the same reaction every time?
Out of all those, GSO and Cottonseed are least likely to have a reaction for most people (not sure about sunflower). If you definitely have an issue with GSO and it isn’t some other issue while also using a product made with GSO than I would steer clear of EO.
Give us a little more information please

My GSO issues were prescription Test Cypionate. I was put on TRT in 2016 and had to abandon it due to the reaction. I always assumed it was a reaction to testosterone and my GP had no clue. Fast foward to 2023 and got put back on TRT. First prescription was GSO. Immediatly had the same effect. Talked to my hormone specialist and he immediatly credited the bottle and sent a new bottle in Sesame Seed which has been flawless. Also had an opportunity to try some other compounds in Cotton and MCT which all have been golden.

 

[Deskoze38192]

My GSO issues were prescription Test Cypionate. I was put on TRT in 2016 and had to abandon it due to the reaction. I always assumed it was a reaction to testosterone and my GP had no clue. Fast foward to 2023 and got put back on TRT. First prescription was GSO. Immediatly had the same effect. Talked to my hormone specialist and he immediatly credited the bottle and sent a new bottle in Sesame Seed which has been flawless. Also had an opportunity to try some other compounds in Cotton and MCT which all have been golden.

Excellent information, thank you for that clarification, I’m sure it will help others to give you their opinions and thoughts

 

[readalot]

My GSO issues were prescription Test Cypionate. I was put on TRT in 2016 and had to abandon it due to the reaction. I always assumed it was a reaction to testosterone and my GP had no clue. Fast foward to 2023 and got put back on TRT. First prescription was GSO. Immediatly had the same effect. Talked to my hormone specialist and he immediatly credited the bottle and sent a new bottle in Sesame Seed which has been flawless. Also had an opportunity to try some other compounds in Cotton and MCT which all have been golden.

Same excipients in each vial (BA/BB)?

The GSO sounds like Empower's Test Cyp? Is the sesame oil vial Test E with no BB?

 

[Ateam2023]

I have recently switched test c products my old one was in cotton seed oil and the new test c is in mct oil which is like water practically, so smooth

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

My GSO issues were prescription Test Cypionate. I was put on TRT in 2016 and had to abandon it due to the reaction. I always assumed it was a reaction to testosterone and my GP had no clue. Fast foward to 2023 and got put back on TRT. First prescription was GSO. Immediatly had the same effect. Talked to my hormone specialist and he immediatly credited the bottle and sent a new bottle in Sesame Seed which has been flawless. Also had an opportunity to try some other compounds in Cotton and MCT which all have been golden.

hard to imagine, but I believe you. They would only use USP grade GSO.


Castor oil is one I have been screwing around with but even for me, it would only be used in certain situations. Castor oil is extremely cheap too.

 

[brutalbuilt]

The problems you had with GSO was it one particular compound? Or one particular source? Or have you tried GSO from other sources and different compounds and had the same reaction every time?
Out of all those, GSO and Cottonseed are least likely to have a reaction for most people (not sure about sunflower). If you definitely have an issue with GSO and it isn’t some other issue while also using a product made with GSO than I would steer clear of EO.
Give us a little more information please

cottonseed oil gave me the worst PIP of my life

not to mention its probably the most inflammatory oil in general

 

[MadaFacor]

cottonseed oil gave me the worst PIP of my life

not to mention its probably the most inflammatory oil in general

My clinic REALLY tried to steer me away from Cotton Seed. The Sesame Seed oil base has been good. I tried to get them to prescribe MCT but they were reluctant and marked it up even more than the ridiculous price they already charge.

Same excipients in each vial (BA/BB)?

The GSO sounds like Empower's Test Cyp? Is the sesame oil vial Test E with no BB?

I am going to research this. Truth is, I didn't dig that deep into the ingredients. I will get back to you because I believe I still have the prescription cards that came with the bottles that I've had over the last year.

 

[MadaFacor]

Soooo.....any feedback on Ethal Oleate?

 

[brutalbuilt]

My clinic REALLY tried to steer me away from Cotton Seed. The Sesame Seed oil base has been good. I tried to get them to prescribe MCT but they were reluctant and marked it up even more than the ridiculous price they already charge.

I am going to research this. Truth is, I didn't dig that deep into the ingredients. I will get back to you because I believe I still have the prescription cards that came with the bottles that I've had over the last year.

yeah im never messing with cso again.. mct is my fav no pip or any issues at all

just buy mct gear from a ugl its way cheaper and easier

 

[MadaFacor]

yeah im never messing with cso again.. mct is my fav no pip or any issues at all

just buy mct gear from a ugl its way cheaper and easier

Agreed. I am approaching 1 year on Test. Ready to ditch the doc. Did the same with the GLP peptides. Worked with clinics for about 9 months getting absolutely raped on pricing. Then found out about our Chinese friends lol. Just bought enough GH and GLP to last me 9 months for the price of 1 month of clinic Tirz. With Jano testing!!

 

[mindgame1516]

does the types of carrier oils change the absorption and the half life of esters such as enanthate. I’ve been hearing things along those lines

 

[Eddie.]

does the types of carrier oils change the absorption and the half life of esters such as enanthate. I’ve been hearing things along those lines

Yes it does, the more viscous the slower it will absorbed and vice versa. That's why having very thin oils in long esters like an MCT with test undecanoate or viscous oils in fast esters like castor oil in test Prop is counterproductive.

 

[mindgame1516]

Yes it does, the more viscous the slower it will absorbed and vice versa. That's why having very thin oils in long esters like an MCT with test undecanoate or viscous oils in fast esters like castor oil in test Prop is counterproductive.

Do you know where where I can find some info on absorption rates of different oils. For example like test E usually peaks at 3-5 days in. With using Mct would it peak more in the 2-3 day range?

 

[Eddie.]

Do you know where where I can find some info on absorption rates of different oils. For example like test E usually peaks at 3-5 days in. With using Mct would it peak more in the 2-3 day range?

I don't think you could find specific details about how much difference in peak days there's between different esters. You can find a graph or a scheme with the viscocity of each oil and then you can pinpoint yourself.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Yes it does, the more viscous the slower it will absorbed and vice versa. That's why having very thin oils in long esters like an MCT with test undecanoate or viscous oils in fast esters like castor oil in test Prop is counterproductive.

Do you know where where I can find some info on absorption rates of different oils. For example like test E usually peaks at 3-5 days in. With using Mct would it peak more in the 2-3 day range?

There are some studies on this, but not what you'd want (comparisons of every ester in every oil). I posted some here.

 

[narta]

Absorption rates can be influenced by individual levels of estarese and lipase that break down carrier oil and cleave the ester. Not much but it plays a role

 

[Thorr77]

cottonseed oil gave me the worst PIP of my life

not to mention its probably the most inflammatory oil in general

I'm curious about what you write. There are producers in my country in Europe who boast that cottonseed oil is the least inflammatory and troublesome... Can you expand on your statement?

 

[Ateam2023]

i never experienced any kind of pip with test c in cotton seed oil , it was pharmaceutical test c so idk maybe you are allergic to cotton seed oil?