Who do you use for anonymous shipping?

[bighunanballs]

Every pack sent from USPS counter is time stamped to sync with counter video, fyi.

It's mentioned in court documents. They can go back years if necessary.

Basically, if you're committing some crime by mailing things, and they take an interest, they can get you.


View: https://youtu.be/wocJoig5xpU

COVID changed the way ppl I knew shipped massive quantities of weed into prohibited states lol. Facemasks changed the anon USPS counter shipping game. No one down south wears masks anymore unless they are retards but all of the Yankees up in communismville still wear masks everywhere so it's easy to ship without getting on camera in the podunk New England towns

 

[laclark89]

This is what I do:
Wear costume
Put on gloves
Buy stamps and packaging materials off an old lady at a retirement home
Drive across multiple states on Route 66
Handoff the package to a fellow biker gang member
He then puts on costume and gloves
And goes to a very large company several states away to use their bathroom and after dropping a Waffle House

 

[Type-IIx]

Gotcha. Priority Postage paid by crypto probably uses same “company” to acquire labels that are with high probability shipping other illicit goods, makes sense. As in other customers of crypto postage are sending illicit goods and it’s easy to profile via postage once understood how the postage is being acquired.

Not sure if stamps and priority postage same thing but I think still applies regardless? Not sure.

Even using different return address for each different box you’re dropping to in different zip codes? Understood though they don’t lack the resources to figure it out once you catch heat.

Oh god yeah receiving is a different beast I’m sure. I’d much rather be on the shipping end than receiving end.

I have heard of this. Basically I guess it comes down to how motivated they are to catch someone and if the sender / seller knows when to drop back and let the heat cool off, rebrand, move, and start again.

Feels like this is the biggest vulnerability. So many cameras that if they’re determined they’ll trace you the drop off person back to wherever they need to.

Thanks for the more in depth insight. Very interesting. I always like reading about the dark web busts and see how the vendors screwed up; it’s usually something crazy simple that was overlooked early on. Contrast this with very long time vendors that have been going since the OG Silk Road. Quite fascinating.

The way that POSTAL investigator (btw!) busted DPR is pretty legendary. For those that aren't aware, he was the first darknet market mogul of the Silk Road. He had seeded interest (have to connect to the clearnet at SOME point, so people know you exist) on some bitcoin mining and tech boards using his real ID before the Silk Road took off. All they had to do was search back to the first mention of the Silk Road and get a warrant for the hosting provider of the bitcointalk board.

I would be so wary of using those services that provide stamps for crypto. I believe that if they're not a honeypot [owned and operated by the government], they're easily commandeered.

And yeah, using different return addresses will fuck you. They scan all mail at every point in transit after pickup, right. So you're basically geolocated to a couple mile radius. If volume picks up, they'll start being attentive to the box(es) you use. If you use real return addresses you're not in control of, either one is going to get returned to sender, or an investigator will just pull up a satellite map and circle the radius, geolocate you, and use "old fashioned police work" to get you. Probably take a few weeks/months, but they'll get you if they want you.

 

[Type-IIx]

The news media is replete with instances of government-owned and -operated honeypot businesses. Without referencing individual cases or companies 'cause I don't remember, they've done it with mobile phones, fake IDs, murder-for-hire, etc. You're actually really low-hanging fruit for these agencies if you operate online or through Tor and "connect to the meatspace."

 

[Trenbolonetax]

The way that POSTAL investigator (btw!) busted DPR is pretty legendary. For those that aren't aware, he was the first darknet market mogul of the Silk Road. He had seeded interest (have to connect to the clearnet at SOME point, so people know you exist) on some bitcoin mining and tech boards using his real ID before the Silk Road took off. All they had to do was search back to the first mention of the Silk Road and get a warrant for the hosting provider of the bitcointalk board.

I would be so wary of using those services that provide stamps for crypto. I believe that if they're not a honeypot [owned and operated by the government], they're easily commandeered.

And yeah, using different return addresses will fuck you. They scan all mail at every point in transit after pickup, right. So you're basically geolocated to a couple mile radius. If volume picks up, they'll start being attentive to the box(es) you use. in control of, either one is going to get returned to sender, or an investigator will just pull up a satellite map and circle the radius, geolocate you, and use "old fashioned police work" to get you. Probably take a few weeks/months, but they'll get you if they want you.

The news media is replete with instances of government-owned and -operated honeypot businesses. Without referencing individual cases or companies 'cause I don't remember, they've done it with mobile phones, fake IDs, murder-for-hire, etc. You're actually really low-hanging fruit for these agencies if you operate online or through Tor and "connect to the meatspace."

Rats! I better put my plans of building a multinational Trenbolone empire on hold then.

Nah but seriously it’s very interesting insight. I hope one day it’s revealed how some vendors can make it a decade plus, while others don’t make it a couple years.

 

[Type-IIx]

I imagine they’re not actually the most valuable targets, and if they are, that their time is likely to expire. Is ten years a long time you think? I know of dealers who have been going 30+ that don’t fuck about online

 

[Type-IIx]

I guarantee you that a lot of the accounts have been bought and sold that you think of as the same person, too. There’s a huge market for that, to both exit, and to enter with an established market.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I imagine they’re not actually the most valuable targets, and if they are, that their time is likely to expire. Is ten years a long time you think? I know of dealers who have been going 30+ that don’t fuck about online

I was mostly saying ten years just due to appx when the Silk Road was going on.

Are those dealers doing huge volume or big $$$ that you speak of? Those are the type of thinking about.

I guarantee you that a lot of the accounts have been bought and sold that you think of as the same person, too. There’s a huge market for that, to both exit, and to enter with an established market.

Yeah that makes sense. If it happens with Instagram I’m sure it can happen with dark web. You think they just transfer the PGP info too no problem?

 

[Type-IIx]

I was mostly saying ten years just due to appx when the Silk Road was going on.

Are those dealers doing huge volume or big $$$ that you speak of? Those are the type of thinking about.


Yeah that makes sense. If it happens with Instagram I’m sure it can happen with dark web. You think they just transfer the PGP info too no problem?

No problem for the right price!

No, they’re not very high volume, and also their warez aren’t making them public enemy number one. That’s the common thread.

I think if they want you badly enough, you’d better be really creative in your methods, how you go about running such an empire. It’d involve lots of employees, and lots of starting capital to foster loyalty.

Such methods would be something kept close to the chest, like a massively high stakes poker game but you’re gambling with your freedom and staking everything on riches.