Why do I tolerate Tren E Better than Tren A?

I have to ask this question since nobody else has, are you ramping your dosage up as the cycle goes along with Ace?

I ramp up, every few weeks raise the dosage.
 
I have to ask this question since nobody else has, are you ramping your dosage up as the cycle goes along with Ace?

I ramp up, every few weeks raise the dosage.

I go by feel mostly. Every time is different. I have a idea for a target dose but I start lower a d work my way. Seems to help acclimate and reduce sides.

If I'm tolerating things well I might increase further as the cycle goes on but generally I'm looking to find a good balanced dosage and let work and diet over time get me where I want to go. If I'm breaking a plateau or changing things I'll generally introduce an oral as oppose to ramping tren further.
 
Your avi picture agrees with me. Is that your girl’s ass or a random internet ass?

It is not my current gf’s photo (aka my lovely wife). Perhaps that can change. She is Brazilian... For now, it’s just a very nice ass that we can all enjoy as opposed to another bodybuilder selfie.
 
It is not my current gf’s photo (aka my lovely wife). Perhaps that can change. She is Brazilian... For now, it’s just a very nice ass that we can all enjoy as opposed to another bodybuilder selfie.
Brazilian women can definetly compete with that ass on your avatar
 
I have to ask this question since nobody else has, are you ramping your dosage up as the cycle goes along with Ace?

I ramp up, every few weeks raise the dosage.
I do for competition. But i find just saving the tren for the end of a cycle is better than ramping as far as gains go.
 
I'm the opposite! Tren E kicks my ass in regards to sides. Heartburn in a bottle! Glutamine and otc meds do nothing!
Tren ace not as bad.
How is that possible? It's the same exact hormone, it was probably related to diet or something else. I don't think as ester could add side effects but I agree with others saying that they could hit you harder with a shorter ester.
 
How is that possible? It's the same exact hormone, it was probably related to diet or something else. I don't think as ester could add side effects but I agree with others saying that they could hit you harder with a shorter ester.
Heard tren e called "sides in a bottle" many times. Dont know how or why. Just know I can handle tren ace better than tren e.
 
How is that possible? It's the same exact hormone, it was probably related to diet or something else. I don't think as ester could add side effects but I agree with others saying that they could hit you harder with a shorter ester.


What you are saying is absolutely true. Once dosage is adjusted for ester weight and pinning schedule normalized for blood levels...ester "should not" matter. And yet with tren plenty of guys report very significant differences in sides and effectiveness. Some of this is no doubt "Bro Science" or other factors but some pretty experienced guys seem to report this too and it's consistent.

This is where I come out...I use acetate. I have experience, can run MWF (so only one more injection weekly), tolerate long runs up to 525mg well, and can adjust on the fly within days. I'm very leery of running enanthate just because of all the anecdotal issues. At some point I'll throw it in a 200mg weekly on a shorter bulk to test the waters but I'm leery of what's reported between esters here and in my mind it's a completely different compound from a sides perspective (could be good for me, bad, or no difference...I don't know until I try) and I default to what I know works.
 
What you are saying is absolutely true. Once dosage is adjusted for ester weight and pinning schedule normalized for blood levels...ester "should not" matter. And yet with tren plenty of guys report very significant differences in sides and effectiveness. Some of this is no doubt "Bro Science" or other factors but some pretty experienced guys seem to report this too and it's consistent.

This is where I come out...I use acetate. I have experience, can run MWF (so only one more injection weekly), tolerate long runs up to 525mg well, and can adjust on the fly within days. I'm very leery of running enanthate just because of all the anecdotal issues. At some point I'll throw it in a 200mg weekly on a shorter bulk to test the waters but I'm leery of what's reported between esters here and in my mind it's a completely different compound from a sides perspective (could be good for me, bad, or no difference...I don't know until I try) and I default to what I know works.
I agree with everything you said, I totally understand that even though esters shouldn't feel different people experience different affects. Like I said before it doesn't make sense that an ester would create new sides but it seems likely the intensity of said sides could be related to esters.

I recently tried NPP for the first time and got no noticeable positive sides(muscle hypertrophy, sex drive, etc), but when I take deca I get great affects; that said what I used could of been over/under dosed or even fake.

The comparison between esters would be more legitimate if people were comparing pharma to pharma, obviously that's impossible but I'm trust trying to say there are to many variables st play to make scientific comparisons.
 
Heard tren e called "sides in a bottle" many times. Dont know how or why. Just know I can handle tren ace better than tren e.
That's fair, my point in my post was to illustrate the lack of legitimacy to the comparison between esters. Don't get me wrong it's definitely an interesting thread but it's entertainment at best.
 
I agree with everything you said, I totally understand that even though esters shouldn't feel different people experience different affects. Like I said before it doesn't make sense that an ester would create new sides but it seems likely the intensity of said sides could be related to esters.

I recently tried NPP for the first time and got no noticeable positive sides(muscle hypertrophy, sex drive, etc), but when I take deca I get great affects; that said what I used could of been over/under dosed or even fake.

The comparison between esters would be more legitimate if people were comparing pharma to pharma, obviously that's impossible but I'm trust trying to say there are to many variables st play to make scientific comparisons.

Where was your NPP from?
 
I've pinned Tren a ed at 50mg and Tren e at 150 eod. Enjoyed Tren E far more better gains and less sides. It makes no sense why people suggest running Tren a for your first time.
 
I've pinned Tren a ed at 50mg and Tren e at 150 eod. Enjoyed Tren E far more better gains and less sides. It makes no sense why people suggest running Tren a for your first time.

It does if you consider that:
1) Not everyone has your experience (first and foremost). Tren tends to vary greatly between individuals.
2) Tren regardless of ester can have some very bad sides
3) With a short ester one can adjust and not need to wait a couple weeks for improvement.
 
Back
Top