MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Depends on multiple factors. I don't consider MENT to be a good anabolic so I don't use that for anything. But Primo, Test, GH, that has its place. It really depends on objective. I design protocols for people I work with, you can always PM me if you want real consultation.
Thank you! What does this mean in terms of actual effects?
Out of curiosity, do you get no effect from other medicines too? Whatever you take - tadalafil, blood pressure, pain killers, anti inflammatory, modafinil... I'm not interested in experimenting with opioids and benzos, but those few times I have taken them after surgeries, my head have been spinning (oxycontin, tramadol, diazepam etc.)
The effects will be diminished, including negative side effects if this is indeed the issue.
Other meds work fine. I haven't been on a lot of meds though. But here's a list of things I have taken throughout my life.
Theoretically, but here are some issues:
What’s your opinion on nootkatone. I have a pack of capsules form a exotic supplier in canada
pretty sure those are the 2 most faked forms of it
"Experimental models have shown that these phytochemicals could mimic [caloric restriction] and exercise through the activation of peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-gamma coactivator-1α, sirtuin 1, and AMP-activated protein kinase (Hawley et al., 2011). However, the effects of these agents on the aged human muscle and their safety have not yet been established." Diet and Aging: Role in Prevention of Muscle Mass Loss
Interesting theory but there's too many holes for op to even consider that to be plausible, least of which he has stated that the use of other drugs metabolized by p450 work as intended, anavar is metabolized primarily by the kidneys, and the 120mg of anavar he took ain't exactly a small dose, and cyp2c9 is not the only p450 enzyme that can metabolize anabolics. It reads a lot like you are claiming that op has an abundance of p450 which for some reason only affects anabolic steroids in his body. Obviously enzymes do not single out just a select few substances to digest so fast they can't affect you so this simply cannot be true.
Why inject it when you can do sublingual, right? But there are orals like anadrol where that first liver pass from gut absorption hits your gut so hard you lose appetite. And by injecting it, the liver has to process it sooner or later (except for maybe anavar), but you don't get that immediate bolus to the liver shutting down your appetite.
It's very possible that he just doesn't digest/process 17aa methylated steroids well. It could be genetic or a drug/supplement interaction. In fact, given what he said about using very high doses of very powerful orals and from multiple sources it's the most likely scenario.
Anavar is not metabolized primarily by the kidneys (this claim originates from a work of science fiction called Andropathy by R.A.S. Hemat and has been cited variously as errata), I don't believe any of the meds he listed previously are metabolized by CYP2C9 (you're shifting goal posts here very badly), and I never claimed CYP2C9 is the only P450 enzyme that can metabolize anabolics (strawman) but it is the principal enzyme involved in var metabolism. I never claimed that OP has an abundance of P450 (where are you getting all of these arguments I never made? It's like you're arguing against someone else altogether).
True. What do you suppose causes the gut problems with, take Anadrol for example, when absorbed by the GI tract that are often reported, versus, the apparent histamine-mediated mechanisms of acid reflux/peptic ulcer (gastric mucosal susceptibility and ulcerogenic effects of androgens)? Is it something that can be ameliorated; just eat with a fatty meal perhaps?
Nobody is straw manning or moving any goalposts. If that's what you think is going on it would be apparent that you did some reading and memorizing without any actual understanding. From your mouthing off it's also apparent you don't actually understand nor possess critical thinking skills to digest what I have said.
