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bigpoppachump said:
Stay away from the methadone! Was on 110mgs liquid per day for 6yrs. Started banging about 8 to 15 bags a day on top of the methadone and got locked up. After a week the heavy withdrawals from the H dissipated and then came the long drawn out methadone withdrawal, I'm not lying when I tell you it probably took around 18 months to finally feel physically and mentally normal again not to mention I didn't shit right for a damn year lol
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Damn. You guys....wow. I have nothing to bitch about. You all are an inspiration.
 
TANGO.ECHO.KILO said:
I second that. Stay away from Dones.
Not to derail this thread but the physical symptoms will NOT be as bad as the mental. Yes it's shitty, but you can come off completely cold turkey. Weening is ideal but for some it just never happens. When you are ready...there are two things I learned. If you wanna get through the W/D's quickly, you can eat about 3 8mg suboxone wafers/strips while your receptors are still saturated and lock yourself in a room for 48 hrs. It's gonna be hell (like the worst flu known to man and maybe some hallucinations), but you will go through 2.5 weeks of symptoms in about 2 days. Make sure you got someone to keep an eye on you, and get pedialite b\c dehydration is very real and very dangerous. Also once you're clean you can kickstart your system with a mixture of OJ and honey a few times a day, and a shot of B1 & B12 vitamins will get those energy levels up. Be safe and be smart my friend good luck.

...or you can always do it shivering and shaking on the jailhouse floor, but I dont recommend it
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bigpoppachump said:
Stay away from the methadone! Was on 110mgs liquid per day for 6yrs. Started banging about 8 to 15 bags a day on top of the methadone and got locked up. After a week the heavy withdrawals from the H dissipated and then came the long drawn out methadone withdrawal, I'm not lying when I tell you it probably took around 18 months to finally feel physically and mentally normal again not to mention I didn't shit right for a damn year lol
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probably not the best idea to stop the subs whilst on test, and i should probably give it a fair while after the cycle to stop too yeah? otherwise ill lose dem gainz
 
ChuckSipes said:
probably not the best idea to stop the subs whilst on test, and i should probably give it a fair while after the cycle to stop too yeah? otherwise ill lose dem gainz
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A member on another forum came off subs while either on TRT or a cycle forget which. Question is, are you more worried about your gains (which you can always get back IF and I mean IF you lose any) or being on subs and the underlying addiction?
 
Docd187123 said:
A member on another forum came off subs while either on TRT or a cycle forget which. Question is, are you more worried about your gains (which you can always get back IF and I mean IF you lose any) or being on subs and the underlying addiction?
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i have every intention to come off ASAP to be honest, for a while i was tapering off at my own accord quite fast, i went from 32mg to about 2mg in the matter of a month. I definitely noticed that it seemed to fuck with me mentally, i wasn't very happy and after telling My doc he was strongly against this and told me to go back up to 24 and taper it extremely slowly. The underlying addiction is not an issue anymore - I'm definitely past it and won't be going back. With that said though anything can happen especially with an addict. My doc is pretty adamant that i taper off very slowly under his supervision and don't rush it so I've been doing that.
 
My doctor told me to take 24mg/day ..
My psychiatrist said 16mg/day completely saturates the receptor ..
I said I'll stick to 8mg/day then 4mg ..
went to alcohol but that was a new chapter ..
short chapter thank god ..

M
 
Same story as some. Im a sick recovering addict that has to have something to keep me busy or I'll wonder off into my mind, which is a very fucked up place that gets me into trouble. Not only that but when I got sober I wanted to be the guy I use to be before the drugs but better. Well, that guy was a big dude and not a crack head. Iron is my therapy and my daily routine. Without it I would either fall off the wagon or be normal and I don't wish to be either.

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Ok I guess it's my turn.
My Father is a great man that taught me the morals I needed to be a gentleman and a man of God for my entire life. I have truly been blessed in my life. I have always had a very strong will. I grew up in the sticks of Oklahoma (the country that is). Worked my ass off on my grandfathers dairy farm every summer. Hauling hay, milking the cows early in the morn and then again Late in the evening, fixing fence, bottle feeding the calves, etc... I was a skinny ripped kid. Not the skinny ripped like your imagining. I was like the starving kind of ripped. I have always given every ounce of effort into everything I've ever done.
So my Dad has always lifted either at the YMCA or in his garage. My older brother was never interested in lifting and my little brother was a preppy little spoiled brat. I love them both for just being who they are. But my Dad tried so hard to get us interested in lifting. I of course was the one that just wanted to be like my Dad because he was Superman to me. He was shot in the chest and the bullet came out his shoulder in Vietnam. He was also shot in the mouth and spit the bullet along with his tooth out into his hand. Like I said he is Superman. Anyway I started helping my Dad workout in the garage for a couple years and he slowly was allowing me to lift a little bit from time to time. This was from the age 14 to 16. Of coarse when I hit 16 I lost some of the time I had to workout so my Dad joined the YMCA with a friend of his from work and started working out there. Fast forward... Once I graduated high school I reunited with my Dad at the YMCA until his job moved him 2 hours away when I was 20. My Mom thought it was the end of the world to move, lol. But we visited at least once every couple weeks and talked on the phone everyday.
As for me that's when I started working out with some really big guys and got into AAS. I also learned about eating to get big. At the age of 27 I was 6'1" 240lbs and around 10%bf. I was finally one of the freaks. Then I got married. My beautiful Wife already had two kids before we met, they were 4 & 6 when I came into the picture. A man with zero responsibilities in life getting dumped into an entire family was not something I was ready for. My Wife and I had some huge fights along the way at the beginning but we always managed to make it through them. I remember getting extremely pissed off when I would have to go get the kids to take them to practice instead of working out. I was an extremely selfish prick but I never showed that or lead on that it bothered me in front of the kids.
Then my Wife got pregnant and wanted to quit her job so I let her (not like I had a choice). One day before the baby was born my Wife and I got into a fight about me not being able to afford my food and how I had lost all my weight because of it. I was down to 190lbs or so. But that was not an ordinary fight. She got up into my face and told me I didn't love the kids because all I do is gripe about not being able to workout and then I snapped and open hand slapped her. I walked out of the house planning on leaving her when God grabbed ahold of me and closed fisted knocked the shit out of me. (In a matter of speech). I fell to my knees and broke down by the car and my Wife as furious as I've ever seen her ran out to me and grabbed me hugging me and apologizing to me. That's right, she apologized for what she had said about the me not loving the kids. I right then and there told her I was done with working out. I sold my home gym and never gave it a second thought. Shortly after that my beautiful daughter was born then a couple years later my Son was born. I now had 4 kids and I had to put a halt to that shit quick, lol. So I got cut.
Fast forward... I was 35 I think and my Wife asked me if I missed working out. Well of course my answer was heck yeah I miss it but I can't afford all my food and I don't have the motivation when I know what it takes to be big. And she told me that since the kids were all in school now that she would go to work. (Forgot to mention she has been going to school for her RN this whole time she wasn't working). So she went back to work and I bought my home gym and started working out again. (Also my Dad retired and moved back to my town and joined the YMCA again here). So after getting back into things I wanted to see if anything had changed during my absence. So I tried to go back to GenXXL forum and Anabolex forum to find out they no longer exist. So I done some searching and found my new home Meso. Talk about motivation and a shit load of information. I was in love at first site, lol. So I joined up and got hooked immediately. My Dad being back in town and listening to all the guys here on Meso my motivation just skyrocketed. I have been back at it ever since and I even worked out with my Dad a few times here and there. Of course now my Wife works out with me and we go to a local gym so she can tan, ok I tan also, lol. I even workout with my middle Son at the gym and sometimes at home depending on my work schedule.
I want to be as good of a Father as my Dad has been to me and I want my children to learn the same morals and discipline that was taught to me. I also want them to think I'm Superman [emoji6] But don't get me wrong I want to look good for my Wife also because she is hot as heck.
So my motivation comes from God, my Dad, my Wife, my children, and all of you here at Meso.
I really feel for what you guys that had it so rough have went through. And I'm very proud of the accomplishments that you have all made. I have never even smoked one joint or touched any drugs at all so I can't relate to those of you that have dealt with that in that aspect, but I can and do give you all the respect you deserve for coming this far. You are all a great inspiration to me. I'm just a humble old country boy that works his ass off to be the best I can be for me and my family.
I'll be 38 this month and I'm feeling like I'm 70, lol. Not really but I can't lie and say I feel like I am 27 again because that just isn't the case. Getting older takes its toll, especially when working out and trying to keep up with my kids. (Dam what I would give to have their energy). So anyway I workout still but just not to the same extent that I used to. If I miss a workout because my kids have a practice or game it's no big deal anymore. It has taken me many years to get to this point in my life, but a few years ago I finally figured out what really matters. I can be Superman and a loving Father and Husband. I just have to keep God where he belongs, in my heart.
Sorry for the long spill and I realize I didn't have to go into so much detail, but I wanted to. There is a whole lot more to this story but I'll save it for another time. Keep up the great work everyone.
BM
 
Hey everyone!
I use to train to gain force, endurance and build stamina, so i do a lot of cardio workout. but at the same time i do the xercise with some light weights. And as well some days a week I hit the gym to lift weights, but I guess in that you guys are much better than me! :)


"Pain is temporary, Pride is forever»
 
I know for a lot of dudes it's the vag that motivates them... When I first attempted to train, I was motivated by that as well. That wasn't enough for me. I would always stop working out after 2 or 3 weeks because I didn't have enough motivation. Now a days, though, I'm married and I do it for me. IM sick of being overweight and feeling weak, so I decided to change it. Almost 3 months in (still very new) and I've fallen in love with the iron. It's therapeutic to me Now. I will become a beast.
 
slashlove said:
Hey everyone!
I use to train to gain force, endurance and build stamina, so i do a lot of cardio workout. but at the same time i do the xercise with some light weights. And as well some days a week I hit the gym to lift weights, but I guess in that you guys are much better than me! :)


"Pain is temporary, Pride is forever»
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No one here is better than anyone else brother. If endurance and stamina is your goal then you do what you have to to get that goal. If you want to compare I might lift more weight than you but I guarantee that you would smoke my ass when it comes to endurance. Everyone is different and everyone has different goals. There is nothing wrong with that. You just keep doing what makes you happy brother.
BM
 
Boilermech said:
No one here is better than anyone else brother. If endurance and stamina is your goal then you do what you have to to get that goal. If you want to compare I might lift more weight than you but I guarantee that you would smoke my ass when it comes to endurance. Everyone is different and everyone has different goals. There is nothing wrong with that. You just keep doing what makes you happy brother.
BM
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Exactly!
 
Boilermech said:
No one here is better than anyone else brother. If endurance and stamina is your goal then you do what you have to to get that goal. If you want to compare I might lift more weight than you but I guarantee that you would smoke my ass when it comes to endurance. Everyone is different and everyone has different goals. There is nothing wrong with that. You just keep doing what makes you happy brother.
BM
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Any post pictures of your hot girlfriend, wife, sister, aunt, grandmother. Sorry. That darn tren....lol
 
Boilermech said:
Ok I guess it's my turn.
My Father is a great man that taught me the morals I needed to be a gentleman and a man of God for my entire life. I have truly been blessed in my life. I have always had a very strong will. I grew up in the sticks of Oklahoma (the country that is). Worked my ass off on my grandfathers dairy farm every summer. Hauling hay, milking the cows early in the morn and then again Late in the evening, fixing fence, bottle feeding the calves, etc... I was a skinny ripped kid. Not the skinny ripped like your imagining. I was like the starving kind of ripped. I have always given every ounce of effort into everything I've ever done.
So my Dad has always lifted either at the YMCA or in his garage. My older brother was never interested in lifting and my little brother was a preppy little spoiled brat. I love them both for just being who they are. But my Dad tried so hard to get us interested in lifting. I of course was the one that just wanted to be like my Dad because he was Superman to me. He was shot in the chest and the bullet came out his shoulder in Vietnam. He was also shot in the mouth and spit the bullet along with his tooth out into his hand. Like I said he is Superman. Anyway I started helping my Dad workout in the garage for a couple years and he slowly was allowing me to lift a little bit from time to time. This was from the age 14 to 16. Of coarse when I hit 16 I lost some of the time I had to workout so my Dad joined the YMCA with a friend of his from work and started working out there. Fast forward... Once I graduated high school I reunited with my Dad at the YMCA until his job moved him 2 hours away when I was 20. My Mom thought it was the end of the world to move, lol. But we visited at least once every couple weeks and talked on the phone everyday.
As for me that's when I started working out with some really big guys and got into AAS. I also learned about eating to get big. At the age of 27 I was 6'1" 240lbs and around 10%bf. I was finally one of the freaks. Then I got married. My beautiful Wife already had two kids before we met, they were 4 & 6 when I came into the picture. A man with zero responsibilities in life getting dumped into an entire family was not something I was ready for. My Wife and I had some huge fights along the way at the beginning but we always managed to make it through them. I remember getting extremely pissed off when I would have to go get the kids to take them to practice instead of working out. I was an extremely selfish prick but I never showed that or lead on that it bothered me in front of the kids.
Then my Wife got pregnant and wanted to quit her job so I let her (not like I had a choice). One day before the baby was born my Wife and I got into a fight about me not being able to afford my food and how I had lost all my weight because of it. I was down to 190lbs or so. But that was not an ordinary fight. She got up into my face and told me I didn't love the kids because all I do is gripe about not being able to workout and then I snapped and open hand slapped her. I walked out of the house planning on leaving her when God grabbed ahold of me and closed fisted knocked the shit out of me. (In a matter of speech). I fell to my knees and broke down by the car and my Wife as furious as I've ever seen her ran out to me and grabbed me hugging me and apologizing to me. That's right, she apologized for what she had said about the me not loving the kids. I right then and there told her I was done with working out. I sold my home gym and never gave it a second thought. Shortly after that my beautiful daughter was born then a couple years later my Son was born. I now had 4 kids and I had to put a halt to that shit quick, lol. So I got cut.
Fast forward... I was 35 I think and my Wife asked me if I missed working out. Well of course my answer was heck yeah I miss it but I can't afford all my food and I don't have the motivation when I know what it takes to be big. And she told me that since the kids were all in school now that she would go to work. (Forgot to mention she has been going to school for her RN this whole time she wasn't working). So she went back to work and I bought my home gym and started working out again. (Also my Dad retired and moved back to my town and joined the YMCA again here). So after getting back into things I wanted to see if anything had changed during my absence. So I tried to go back to GenXXL forum and Anabolex forum to find out they no longer exist. So I done some searching and found my new home Meso. Talk about motivation and a shit load of information. I was in love at first site, lol. So I joined up and got hooked immediately. My Dad being back in town and listening to all the guys here on Meso my motivation just skyrocketed. I have been back at it ever since and I even worked out with my Dad a few times here and there. Of course now my Wife works out with me and we go to a local gym so she can tan, ok I tan also, lol. I even workout with my middle Son at the gym and sometimes at home depending on my work schedule.
I want to be as good of a Father as my Dad has been to me and I want my children to learn the same morals and discipline that was taught to me. I also want them to think I'm Superman [emoji6] But don't get me wrong I want to look good for my Wife also because she is hot as heck.
So my motivation comes from God, my Dad, my Wife, my children, and all of you here at Meso.
I really feel for what you guys that had it so rough have went through. And I'm very proud of the accomplishments that you have all made. I have never even smoked one joint or touched any drugs at all so I can't relate to those of you that have dealt with that in that aspect, but I can and do give you all the respect you deserve for coming this far. You are all a great inspiration to me. I'm just a humble old country boy that works his ass off to be the best I can be for me and my family.
I'll be 38 this month and I'm feeling like I'm 70, lol. Not really but I can't lie and say I feel like I am 27 again because that just isn't the case. Getting older takes its toll, especially when working out and trying to keep up with my kids. (Dam what I would give to have their energy). So anyway I workout still but just not to the same extent that I used to. If I miss a workout because my kids have a practice or game it's no big deal anymore. It has taken me many years to get to this point in my life, but a few years ago I finally figured out what really matters. I can be Superman and a loving Father and Husband. I just have to keep God where he belongs, in my heart.
Sorry for the long spill and I realize I didn't have to go into so much detail, but I wanted to. There is a whole lot more to this story but I'll save it for another time. Keep up the great work everyone.
BM
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Boiler, i dont know you or your dad, but you just inspired the sh*t outta me.
 
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