Why would someone add anything to Test/Tren/Mast/GH

[Deadpool99]

Hey guys,
I haven't used Nandrolones and Eq. I'm wondering if someone is using the holy trifecta of Test/Tren/Mast. From a pure hypertrophy standpoint not strength, does Deca/Npp/Eq add any extra size? Shouldn't Tren be already maxing the “hypertrophy pathway” (AR activation + anti-catabolic + nutrient partitioning).

Apart form appetite and joint support, is there any reason to add these? Also if I don't care about strength does Anadrol rly add anyth?
Ik Superdrol is very good for adding true lean mass but it's very liver toxic I don't know if I rly want to put any strain on my liver.

 

[RockyP]

NPP / Deca will likely add more size all things equal due to some extra water retention. Some people run tren in the offseason / when massing, but it depends upon how it impacts your appetite. Test / tren / mast is one helluva cutting stack, but there's no reason why you can't use it when massing as long as you can eat enough.

One of the dirty secrets of this game is that for the most part, all steroids accrue protein synthesis at roughly the same rates, mg vs mg. That's why things like test, primo, EQ, masteron are popular - because they can be tolerated (by most) at higher dosages. Lots of guys can run 1 g of test with 1 g of primo or EQ. Not so much 1 g of nandrolone / tren.

I personally love NPP for massing. for me 300 test / 200 NPP is plenty, with 4 - 5 iu GH and a low dose GLP-1 for nutrient partitioning.

I would not add deca / npp / eq to test / tren / mast, i'd probably do test / EQ / masteron (a very nice bulking cycle) or test / NPP or deca with masteron.

I'd skip the superdrol / anadrol / orals. They tend to kill appetite and can make you feel like shit - not good for bulking.

 

[Slowww]

eq is based as hell that’s why. I would put eq well before masteron for size and work capacity. Tren + eq ime is also a good mix because tren will reduce work capacity due to the labored breathing, and EQ balances it out. Adding something like eq will give better results ime, if you’re running it with tren ok youre gonna get more out of it sure but in what world is more mgs on top of tren gonna be less than just having some tren.

Anadrol adds crazy strength and the pumps are nasty as hell. Wish I could run it but I don’t do orals at all since Im not competing any time soon.

 

[Deadpool99]

eq is based as hell that’s why. I would put eq well before masteron for size and work capacity. Tren + eq ime is also a good mix because tren will reduce work capacity due to the labored breathing, and EQ balances it out. Adding something like eq will give better results ime, if you’re running it with tren ok youre gonna get more out of it sure but in what world is more mgs on top of tren gonna be less than just having some tren.

Anadrol adds crazy strength and the pumps are nasty as hell. Wish I could run it but I don’t do orals at all since Im not competing any time soon.

Thanks actually a great take, I think I might add eq to my stack, I wonder how much eq I can add. I have no blood marker issues with 750mg test/60g mast e/640mg tren ace. So I don’t have any cbc/bp/lipid issues. If I stack it with 750mg test e what would you reckon is the optimal dose of eq?

I believe it competes with test at the receptor level for e2, so even tho it theoretically aromatizes, when it competes with test, overall the E2 levels can drop, might want to add eq and drop some of my mast, cheaper and more effective.

 

[Slowww]

Thanks actually a great take, I think I might add eq to my stack, I wonder how much eq I can add. I have no blood marker issues with 750mg test/60g mast e/640mg tren ace. So I don’t have any cbc/bp/lipid issues. If I stack it with 750mg test e what would you reckon is the optimal dose of eq?

I believe it competes with test at the receptor level for e2, so even tho it theoretically aromatizes, when it competes with test, overall the E2 levels can drop, might want to add eq and drop some of my mast, cheaper and more effective.

Tbh that’s a huge amount of tren. Are you competing or something soon?

I wouldn’t run that cycle at all, and would do test 750, EQ and then tren 150 max 300.
Personally I do 750 test with 4-600 EQ but can go higher with EQ without adverse side effects or estrogen problems. That amount of tren seems like way too much and is unnecessary with the EQ. Mast I mean whatever is acceptable for you, I run mine almost equal to test but you know everyone responds in their own way.

However I find any more is totally unnecessary if you have a 3 compounds.

 

[ackmack78]

I thought you had no energy and motivation and felt like shit. The last thing you should probably be doing is adding more drugs on top of 640 tren already.

In your other thread everyone recommended a cruise while you figure your shit out

 

[Deadpool99]

I thought you had no energy and motivation. The last thing you should probably be doing is adding more drugs on top of 640 tren already.

Not running tren anymore, bloodwork eta is 1/2 days. After acknowledging the issue might be more mental than bloodwork markers I actually gotten a little better, forced my friend to take me out and it helped alot.

I asked this question as I was building my future stack, I plan like 20-40 weeks in advance and wondering if eq adds any anabolic properties if I would do test/tren/mast?

 

[VStar]

Not really into deca in a cycle maybe NPP? but you have tren there. (19nor) as a baseline CRUISE protocol, I take 70mg pw (Deca nandronlone)
You could swap out Tren (a or e) with NPP as a idea another time?

But the concenus is no for Deca since it's long ester requires 10-12 week cycle. (low dose base line cruise protocol instead)
As for your stack yeh im would like to experiment with:

Injectable yk11 @ 3 x day @10-20mg for 8 weeks. (30-60mg a day)

 

[Deadpool99]

Not really into nandronlone in a cycle maybe NPP? but you have tren there. (19nor) as a baseline CRUISE protocol, I take 70mg pw.
You could swap out Tren (a or e) with NPP as a idea another time?

But the concenus is no for Deca since it's long ester requires 10-12 week cycle. (low dose base line cruise protocol instead)
As for your stack yeh im would like to experiment with:

Injectable yk11 @ 3 x day @10-20mg for 8 weeks. (30-60mg a day)

I research yk-11 but I saw alot of conflicting anecdotes, some say it adds lean tissue fast, but most found it underwhelming, inconsistent, and some I found has it had some side-effects which are not worth the hassle.

I’d think id myostatin inhibition were that straightforward and effective, pharma would have pushed YK-11 hard or atleast have had some published animal studies. Very theory heavy with little proven affects, or atleast none I can find.

 

[VStar]

I’d think id myostatin inhibition were that straightforward and effective, pharma would have pushed YK-11 hard or atleast have had some published animal studies. Very theory heavy with little proven affects, or atleast none I can find.

Yes thus my research..on me will be 3 x a day due to it's 6‑12hr half life ideally a 24/7 infusion pump (I'm serious). So I withdraw my suggestion

But no I don't recommend nandronlone (NPP or Deca) with a Test/Tren/whatever stack

From a pure hypertrophy standpoint

+HGH?

So just run that stack Test/Tren/Mast although if you want to save money and achieve the same gains I would cut that stack by 2/3's, save money too.

 

[Deadpool99]

Yes thus my research..on me will be 3 x a day due to it's 6‑12hr half life ideally a 24/7 infusion pump (I'm serious). So I withdraw my suggestion

But no I don't recommend nandronlone (NPP or Deca) with a Test/Tren/whatever stack


+HGH?

So just run that stack Test/Tren/Mast although if you want to save money and achieve the same gains I would cut that stack by 2/3's, save money too.

Yeah I guess I should have phrased the question differently, does Eq rly add any anabolic support beyond what the stack offers. But I guess that’s fairly unlikely. Just a bored person asking a boring question I guess.

 

[VStar]

One could argue equally, depending on where you are at with your goals. That any stack may not add any "anabolic" support beyond a dosing limit that your body can handle i.e. For example I would cycle that stack on 1/3 of the dosage and gym 3 or 4 times a week. High dosages means you are serious about being in the gym and setting a up a tent. (then I would stack high and eat and live in a gym, with a year of free time to do gym)