Will you get the covid vaccine ?

[malfeasance]

The entire reason for this type of vaccine is because it's faster and cheaper to produce. If offers no benefit that exceeds that of a traditional vaccine, it's just the speed at which it can be produced.

Where as in the past the vaccine companies had to work with live virus and kill it which posed risks to the manufacturers. This approach allows them to use what are basically cancer cells from an aborted fetus from the 70's to spit out mRNA strands, they then coat them with a nano PEG lipid layer to improve storage and viability, inject them into you, you take up the mRNA in your cytoplasm and produce your own COVID spike protein antigens and then T/B lymphocytes produce antibodies.

They claim this doesn't enter into the cells nucleus and isn't taken up into our genome which could cause cancer or disease.

If I was a vaccine company I wouldn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole.....that is unless you gave me complete immunity from lawsuit which is precisely what has happened.

Developing mRNA-vaccine technologies - PMC

mRNA vaccines combine desirable immunological properties with an outstanding safety profile and the unmet flexibility of genetic vaccines. Based on in situ protein expression, mRNA vaccines are capable of inducing a balanced immune response ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[No Gods No Masters]

Look at 1976 Swine Flu Vaccine where the government went hysterical and thought 80% of the population needed to be vaccinated because one person had died from Swine Flu.

There was a large group of people that suffered from Guillain-Barre syndrome, neurological disorder. Of course I've seen this problem up close with the modern flu vaccine at our hospital, several nurses and laboratory staff came down with it. At first it provided an exemption to future vaccinations, but then they were ordered to take small dose and suffer and they did suffer or they quit the profession.

It's a reminder that the government during the 1976 vaccine push did coverup what they knew about possible neurological disorders and deaths associated with the '76 vaccine.

Moral of the story is to leave people alone, let our immune systems work they way they were intended. Encourage people to eat healthy and get plenty of exercise and that's all you need to do.

Someone I hope puts together a website that will allow people to complain about the side effects of the Covid vaccine. I'm searching right now for such a site and haven't found one, but I hope someone will produce it soon.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

Developing mRNA-vaccine technologies - PMC

mRNA vaccines combine desirable immunological properties with an outstanding safety profile and the unmet flexibility of genetic vaccines. Based on in situ protein expression, mRNA vaccines are capable of inducing a balanced immune response ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Educational article, but it doesn't offer us any insight into long term human studies.

It really is reckless to go ahead with a mass vaccination effort without having tested this approach for years.

Operation warp speed provided a gateway where you have a POTUS that is scientifically illiterate, who surrounded himself with Bill Gates bought and paid for Dr. Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx.

I don't trust people that aren't highly skeptical, if they aren't asking questions and demanding proof. When you see these idiots proclaim "I believe in science" as they roll up their sleeves. Well your body doesn't give a shit what you believe, it can go haywire if you monkey around with your machinery.

 

[malfeasance]

Educational article, but it doesn't offer us any insight into long term human studies.

That's the only reason I offered it, as I thought some folks wanting to know more about mRNA vaccines might want to read it.

Any idea how long it would take them to set up a vaccine production the old fashioned way, by having e choli or something similar churning out spoke proteins to be injected into the human body?

I take it this delay is why they skipped that step.

All the pressure to bring a vaccine to market quickly was the perfect opportunity to put this technology to use. Just have your body substitute for the e choli.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

That's the only reason I offered it, as I thought some folks wanting to know more about mRNA vaccines might want to read it.

Any idea how long it would take them to set up a vaccine production the old fashioned way, by having e choli or something similar churning out spoke proteins to be injected into the human body?

I take it this delay is why they skipped that step.

All the pressure to bring a vaccine to market quickly was the perfect opportunity to put this technology to use. Just have your body substitute for the e choli.

From what I read it's typically 18 months to make and test vaccine using the old approach.

The real problem is we are gonna see Covid variants popping up, the vaccine might be effective against the current strain, but it could be possible that it won't in another year.

The United States has a program to pay out for those harmed by vaccines, but on this scale, there's no way in hell there would be enough to pay out.

It's just reckless to take all of humanity and want to pump this shit into them as fast as possible.

Now they're talking about doing it to pregnant women and pediatrics, babies. That to me is insane, you shouldn't be taking risks with a developing baby or any newborn for that matter.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

1. Medical Science isn't really science when big pharma is involved, it often show a bias towards the goals of big pharma. Big Pharma funds every program, from the journals that print the research to the institutions that depend on their dollars.

2. Doctors simply can't stomach the idea that they could harm their patients and so they ignore the risks. Doctors are trained to pump drugs, if they don't have this option they can't do much to help you. Hostility towards any doctor that points out possible harm from what is considered Orthodoxy quickly keeps any doctor in line plugging the same old message.

3. Doctors and public health professionals spend little time reading the literature for themselves. They plug the CDC and depend on the vaccine industry to write vaccine recommendations. Independent thinkers aren't welcomed in this arena, if you ask questions you're a quack.

4. Bottom line is that it is intellectually lazy to use "argument by authority" and continue to parrot the same message from those that sit at the top CDC and WHO.

What we have seen with mainstream media is that independent thinkers are viewed as dangerous. Just asking the question "how do you know" puts you on the no fly list in this country now.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

The MSM is so busy pushing the stupid vaccine now, it’s obvious they are normalizing it and pre-conditioning everyone.

But, what they aren’t covering is the multiple “treatments” that are being developed right now. That seems far more appropriate for this not so deadly disease. Why the vaccine?

 

[NorthMich]

I know it’s popular here to ONLY quote minimal estimates of lethality. After all, so many here assert the Vitoria is nearly harmless, and any deaths attributed to the virus are considered conspiracy.

Fortunately we have a science based community working on this. Imagine if we left world health to the geniuses on this forum

I also like polio, smallpox, and rubella vaccines. Things really sucked before them

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I know it’s popular here to ONLY quote minimal estimates of lethality. After all, so many here assert the Vitoria is nearly harmless, and any deaths attributed to the virus are considered conspiracy.

Fortunately we have a science based community working on this. Imagine if we left world health to the geniuses on this forum

I also like polio, smallpox, and rubella vaccines. Things really sucked before them

Yea. I’ll bet things really sucked back then. We also didn’t have modern medicine, a lot of places didn’t have modern plumbing. Treating small pox used leeches to remove the toxins. Oh and that whatchamacallit in the kitchen, ah refrigerator. Didn’t they put sick people with other sick people and that was called quarantine? Ah. Silly. Imagine that. Everyone knows you quarantine the healthy and hide for months and sickness goes away. All these advancements.

People also lived until they were 60. We artificially keep people alive until their 80-90 now and then feel so super sad when they die of covid. [emoji2369]

Good thing we have @NorthMich or this place wouldn’t be nearly as entertaining. Did you ever get a chance to watch another man fuck your wife at the sex club? Or are those plans on hold?

 

[No Gods No Masters]

The MSM is so busy pushing the stupid vaccine now, it’s obvious they are normalizing it and pre-conditioning everyone.

But, what they aren’t covering is the multiple “treatments” that are being developed right now. That seems far more appropriate for this not so deadly disease. Why the vaccine?

Vaccine represents control.

Healthy lifestyle, eating right, exercise, actually doing something about diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity. That takes effort on your part. You don't need to do that.

You just roll up your sleeve and let me inject the secret sauce.

What is that? You don't want to be vaccinated, well I can assure it is perfectly safe, how do I know? I'm doctor and even though I didn't have jack shit to do with producing the vaccine, nor did I actually perform any long term studies myself, trust me I know, so shut your brain off and you just sit back and enjoy the ride.

Where are the skeptics, we need people to be skeptical? All these people running around with credentials these days, more and more people have higher education and yet few of them think critically. Just a simple question...."How do you know what you're claiming you know". That's all you have to ask someone that tells you something is safe. 99% of the time you'll know right there that the person is just parroting the CDC and the CDC is there to support the vaccine industry. It's sort of like your doctor can only pump drugs, take away vaccines and CDC isn't all that important.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

I know it’s popular here to ONLY quote minimal estimates of lethality. After all, so many here assert the Vitoria is nearly harmless, and any deaths attributed to the virus are considered conspiracy.

Fortunately we have a science based community working on this. Imagine if we left world health to the geniuses on this forum

I also like polio, smallpox, and rubella vaccines. Things really sucked before them

Science community working overtime to sell you a product.

That's not science, that's little different then any other consumer focused market.

It's one thing if you're trying to discover blackholes or how dark matter works. That's real science.

It's another thing if I'm bringing a product to market(vaccines) and trying to cook the numbers to make sure we meet deadline so our investment pays off.

Where is the independent oversight for vaccines, where do they bring in highly skeptical people critical to the entire process with the power to halt their production anytime they see fit over any issue in question. Doesn't exist and for that reason it's not science.

You see the entire purpose of science is so someone else can come along and prove you wrong. That is the whole purpose of the venture, a constant critique.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Vaccine represents control.

Healthy lifestyle, eating right, exercise, actually doing something about diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity. That takes effort on your part. You don't need to do that.

You just roll up your sleeve and let me inject the secret sauce.

What is that? You don't want to be vaccinated, well I can assure it is perfectly safe, how do I know? I'm doctor and even though I didn't have jack shit to do with producing the vaccine, nor did I actually perform any long term studies myself, trust me I know, so shut your brain off and you just sit back and enjoy the ride.

Where are the skeptics, we need people to be skeptical? All these people running around with credentials these days, more and more people have higher education and yet few of them think critically. Just a simple question...."How do you know what you're claiming you know". That's all you have to ask someone that tells you something is safe. 99% of the time you'll know right there that the person is just parroting the CDC and the CDC is there to support the vaccine industry. It's sort of like your doctor can only pump drugs, take away vaccines and CDC isn't all that important.

I know I’ll regret saying this but we actually agree.

Disclaimer: On this one post only, at this specific moment in time. Agreement with one post does not extend to other posts and shall not be misconstrued nor implied to be agreement with other posts whether hereto though or foreseen. [emoji2369] sounds legal.

 

[Heynow]

I know it’s popular here to ONLY quote minimal estimates of lethality. After all, so many here assert the Vitoria is nearly harmless, and any deaths attributed to the virus are considered conspiracy.

Fortunately we have a science based community working on this. Imagine if we left world health to the geniuses on this forum

I also like polio, smallpox, and rubella vaccines. Things really sucked before them

 

[No Gods No Masters]

Don't forget about Thalidomide babies born with short limbs thanks to a medication that was prescribed for morning sickness.

These fucking idiots pushing vaccines on pregnant women need to have their skulls smashed through a wall.

 

[rfan2020]

how many of these old out of shape druggie senators have died from the Dovid? none. hmmmm, a pandemic, right? wouldn't one die by now? people are dumb

this is some Orwellian shit, having some girl on live tv being vaccinated by 2 makes men while the ny governor looks on with a creepy look and they they applaud when she gets the vaccine. this shit is sick

cult.

your average human is a moron for believing this stuff. the world deserves covid, thin the herd baby.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

It's a simple request.

Independent website that is set up to allow anyone that has received the vaccine to list their side effects and problems. Have the brand of vaccine they were given as well.

The radio silence is alarming, the censorship of anyone that criticizes the vaccine is total.



There's news that the CEO of Pfizer hasn't received the vaccine, he made up some lame excuse, but even if he did it might just be a saline placebo.

There's also information that people that worked in the factories manufacturing couldn't take bathroom breaks so they had to shit their pants with feces on the floor, because it takes 30 minutes to unsuit and resuit for a bathroom break and they had to pump this shit out at warp speed. Anyone want some feces with their vaccine?

 

[flenser]

Quite a few doctors seem to be openly questioning the safety of the vaccine, censorship or no. I don't think I will have a problem getting one to inject the waste bin and sign my "vaccine passport". It doesn't hurt to ask anyway.

 

[MythotiK]

Quite a few doctors seem to be openly questioning the safety of the vaccine, censorship or no. I don't think I will have a problem getting one to inject the waste bin and sign my "vaccine passport". It doesn't hurt to ask anyway.

My doc is pro vaccination, but he has already told me to not get this one. He explained that there is no vaccine for any other flu strain or even the common cold, and they made this in 6-7 months with zero trial time.

No one knows what’s on the backend of this treatment.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

Surgeon General states "Covid Vaccine shouldn't be mandated by employers".

His reason, because it is "experimental". Released for emergency use, but not because it is proven safe.

There has been among some health providers push for ID bands or buttons worn to signify employees who have been vaccinated. Sort of like how the Nazi's banded the Jews in the ghettos and before they were sent to death camps. It's a means to intimidate and "other" those that have refused to accept their fate without a fight.

It's all about being a cog in the system, your autonomy has been denied, you will be assimilated into the borg.

 

[MythotiK]

Whatever employer mandates these vaccines should be required to wear red armbands!