Without Testosterone?

[Roadmap]

I'm going to stop testosterone because of high hematocrit and hemoglobin(204), so i was thinkin is there any other steroids that don't raise these values. And can they be used without testosterone?

Dude you need to find a mobile phlebotomist and drop blood asap, take baby aspirin and stay hydrated.

 

[Hardcoreboy]

My doctor consults hematology and they are considering donating blood or medicine (JAK2 i think)?

 

[Hardcoreboy]

@Type-IIx Do you know if doctors use JAK2 drugs to treat high hemoglobin or hematocrit?

 

[4Drago]

I am 177cm tall and weigh 250 pounds. When someone taller than me is nearing 300 pounds, it might be surprising to some. However, I can assure you that I have plans to bulk up to 270 pounds once I resume my blast and cruise, but for now, I am off all gear due to fertility concerns.

I find it strange that the majority of people on this forum are at or below 200lbs. I just figured with everyone taking aas, why aren't people growing? I've always been 20-30lbs heavier then people would guess my weight at. I don't see myself as anywhere close to bodybuilder size and I'm 5'9" 252lbs 15%. I havent been under 200lbs since highschool. I Never started aas until my 20s and I was already over 200 at this point. I Always figured I had denser, heavier dones or something.

 

[Type-IIx]

@Type-IIx Do you know if doctors use JAK2 drugs to treat high hemoglobin or hematocrit?

They do indeed use JAK1/2 inhibitors. Note that the GH receptor in liver uses JAK2 signalling to synthesize IGF-I & in skeletal muscle GH activates its JAK2 signalling locally as well, reflecting its myogenic action.

 

[grey]

I find it strange that the majority of people on this forum are at or below 200lbs

I think it tends to be the majority of posters seeking help/advice. Small guys trying to get big (but only through drug magic without eating) are the overwhelming majority of new AAS seekers.

 

[4Drago]

I think it tends to be the majority of posters seeking help/advice. Small guys trying to get big (but only through drug magic without eating) are the overwhelming majority of new AAS seekers.

Ya, little sad I guess. Back in the 90s, at least it seemed that way to me, most built a good base first. Then moved on to aas. Each to their own, but how are you ever gonna know your max genetic potential if you never tried? My max genetic potential is about 220 15-16% bf. I even took a 15 year break from aas and was always able to maintain 220ish.

 

[Daniel_Drago]

Well, the thing is this, in the 80...90's ecc there were no influencers to push the gear, no forums and pages made by half natty gear guru's and another thing is that back in the day, the bodybuilding enganced was impracticable for a normal person, now is more easy to fiind gear, more sponsors, more money in the game of social media, ecc. So the pressure for someone who dream about having a future in this game is way bigger.

The funny part is that many of those influencers and guru's that push grams of gear and flex look almost half natty...of course they look big from the perspective of a person that doesn't frequent gym, but if you're in bodybuilding like us, you watch them and say...wtf is that, many mass monsters from the past doesn't get the attention that a 70/80kg skinny guy gets...