would you hang it up if?

[stevonov]

your mri read like this? did a 45 and over show and looking to do a 50 and over show in a few years. right now im in too much pain to train but eager to get back into it. a lot of the things say mild.
CONCLUSION:
1. Mild to moderate rotator cuff tendinosis diffusely with associated low-grade partial thickness undersurface tears of supraspinatus and infraspinatus. No high-grade or full-thickness rotator cuff tears are identified.
2. Mild subacromial/subdeltoid bursitis.
3. Mild AC joint arthropathy and mild glenohumeral joint chondromalacia.
4. Degenerative slap lesion of the biceps labral anchor is suggested.
5. Mild intra-articular biceps tendinosis without high-grade tendinopathy or tear

FINDINGS:
ROTATOR CUFF: There is mild to moderate rotator cuff tendinosis diffusely with evidence of low-grade partial thickness undersurface tearing along the supraspinatus and infraspinatus tendons. No high-grade or full-thickness rotator cuff tear is
identified. There is associated rotator cuff enthesopathy with subchondral sclerotic changes, edema and subchondral cystic changes along the greater tuberosity insertion of supraspinatus and infraspinatus.
MUSCULATURE: No strain, edema, or atrophy.
AC JOINT/ACROMION: There is mild AC joint arthropathy with mild hypertrophy and capsulitis. No evidence of subacromial enthesopathy. There is mild subacromial/subdeltoid bursitis.
BICEPS/LABRAL COMPLEX: The long head of the biceps tendon is intact with mild intra-articular biceps tendinosis. There is a degenerative slap lesion of the biceps labral anchor with mild subchondral bone marrow edema along the anchor identified.
GLENOHUMERAL JOINT: Mild chondromalacia of the glenohumeral joint without frank osteoarthritis. No joint effusion or synovitis identified.

 

[Human_backhoe]

your mri read like this? did a 45 and over show and looking to do a 50 and over show in a few years. right now im in too much pain to train but eager to get back into it. a lot of the things say mild.
CONCLUSION:
1. Mild to moderate rotator cuff tendinosis diffusely with associated low-grade partial thickness undersurface tears of supraspinatus and infraspinatus. No high-grade or full-thickness rotator cuff tears are identified.
2. Mild subacromial/subdeltoid bursitis.
3. Mild AC joint arthropathy and mild glenohumeral joint chondromalacia.
4. Degenerative slap lesion of the biceps labral anchor is suggested.
5. Mild intra-articular biceps tendinosis without high-grade tendinopathy or tear

FINDINGS:
ROTATOR CUFF: There is mild to moderate rotator cuff tendinosis diffusely with evidence of low-grade partial thickness undersurface tearing along the supraspinatus and infraspinatus tendons. No high-grade or full-thickness rotator cuff tear is
identified. There is associated rotator cuff enthesopathy with subchondral sclerotic changes, edema and subchondral cystic changes along the greater tuberosity insertion of supraspinatus and infraspinatus.
MUSCULATURE: No strain, edema, or atrophy.
AC JOINT/ACROMION: There is mild AC joint arthropathy with mild hypertrophy and capsulitis. No evidence of subacromial enthesopathy. There is mild subacromial/subdeltoid bursitis.
BICEPS/LABRAL COMPLEX: The long head of the biceps tendon is intact with mild intra-articular biceps tendinosis. There is a degenerative slap lesion of the biceps labral anchor with mild subchondral bone marrow edema along the anchor identified.
GLENOHUMERAL JOINT: Mild chondromalacia of the glenohumeral joint without frank osteoarthritis. No joint effusion or synovitis identified.

Damn man that's shitty ....short answer. Personally yes I would hang it up.

Real answer. I'm personally in no position any longer to compete in anything because of injuries. I had to find another motivation to still train 2x a day. If you don't think you can find that "other" reason to train, don't quit.

Who knows if you can find other reasons to still hit it without the physical/hormonal stress of a prep it might be great for you long term. Personally I'm adding quite a bit more mobility work and hiit to keep strong and healthy. My next and probably quite a few future "cycles " will be 500t maybe some var at the end. Nothing physically or chemically too destructive anymore. Better for me and the people who count on me.

 

[malfeasance]

What did your doctor say about repairing it?

 

[stevonov]

came off everything super depressed. been dealing with the torn labrum doctor said he could fix it but i slowly built strength back up without the repair. i think i was favoring my other muscles and thats why i got the partial tears in rotator cuff. waiting over a month for apppointment on infra and supra repair but i think they just wanted to give me a cortisone shot or something. also getting emg for numb hand pain and tingling from neck down left arm. came off everything because i cant train so add depression and missing work to list ugh. think i will fix the labrum so i can at least train the competing was just a bucket list thing and wont make or break me. thanks for input guys.

 

[BigDaddyV]

I’m a little reckless, I’m sure a few people here would agree but personally, no.

However if I was giving advice I would say your health comes first, permanent damage would not be fun.
sorry to read this man. Hope things get better for you ASAP

 

[BiggD]

Yeah your health needs to come first. You can still train just change it up with lighter weight, higher reps, slower reps, use more bands. You can still maintain and look good just don’t sacrifice your health and end up permanently damaged and not be able to train by pushing too far.

 

[malfeasance]

came off everything super depressed. been dealing with the torn labrum doctor said he could fix it but i slowly built strength back up without the repair. i think i was favoring my other muscles and thats why i got the partial tears in rotator cuff. waiting over a month for apppointment on infra and supra repair but i think they just wanted to give me a cortisone shot or something. also getting emg for numb hand pain and tingling from neck down left arm. came off everything because i cant train so add depression and missing work to list ugh. think i will fix the labrum so i can at least train the competing was just a bucket list thing and wont make or break me. thanks for input guys.

Cortisone shot won't repair anything. It will just make you feel better for a week or two.

 

[wsmwannabe]

I have never dealt with most of those issues, but I always believe a good physical therapist is MUCH better for joint/musculature repair than a doctor. A physician will tell you to stop lifting and to take whatever drugs for the pain. A good PT will help you ACTUALLY repair your body through movement and exercise. And a good coach can help avoid movements/exercises that make it worse.

That's how I've always handled injuries anyways.

 

[malfeasance]

I have never dealt with most of those issues, but I always believe a good physical therapist is MUCH better for joint/musculature repair than a doctor. A physician will tell you to stop lifting and to take whatever drugs for the pain. A good PT will help you ACTUALLY repair your body through movement and exercise. And a good coach can help avoid movements/exercises that make it worse.

That's how I've always handled injuries anyways.

It depends on the issue. Physical therapy cannot repair a SLAP tear or a torn labrum.

 

[MFAAS]

Personally, I see two routes:
1. Hang it up, but continue with living a healthy lifestyle, lifting when possible and doing what I can. Maintain a sexy body far better than any other middle-aged men out there and live a fulfilling life doing a bunch of things I love.
2. Try to throw everything I can at it to recover. This is gonna cost a lot of money unfortunately. Try everything possible, physical therapy as often as one can afford. Peptides: BPC-157 and TB-500 for the soft tissue injuries that won't heal under normal circumstances. If you use HGH that will help too, if not then peptides like Ipamorelin/MOD GRF can help increase IGF-1 to increase healing capabilities as well. You could also try getting a near-infrared light to shine on the affected areas. This will both increase blood flow, as well as provide benefits via photobiomodulation (changing cellular function via specific wavelengths of light). Perhaps your physical therapist could use ultrasound therapy as well to increase blood flow to the area and encourage cellular healing activity.

I had great success using BPC-157 for some ridiculous nerve injuries I had. The injuries were there for years before I tried BPC, then it took about 9-10 months of daily BPC use, but they fully healed and I feel whole again. The research on BPC-157 for tendon and ligament tears and injuries is nothing short of incredible. The same goes for the studies around TB-500. I remember seeing a study where one of them even healed a severed spinal cord in rabbits!!! Absolutely nothing short of a miracle. You just need to ensure you get REAL STUFF. None of that peptidesciences, chinese-grey-market bullshit. If you need a recommendation for an online wellness pharmacy that sells it just shoot me a PM I would be happy to recommend the one I go through.

Good luck brother.

 

[Bumpygooch]

I wouldn’t hang it up. I’d get the surgery out of the way and keep banging. I’m going under the knife tomorrow, actually. “Massive” full thickness RC tear, supraspinatus and infraspinatus torn off and retracted, labrum torn from anterior to posterior(type 2 SLAP tear). Little easier in my case as I don’t have an option, really. But, I’m not hanging it up, was pushing for 500lb bench by 50(I’m 47), so, looks like I lose about a year of progess, but, I’ll still push as soon as I’m ready.

 

[malfeasance]

I wouldn’t hang it up. I’d get the surgery out of the way and keep banging. I’m going under the knife tomorrow, actually. “Massive” full thickness RC tear, supraspinatus and infraspinatus torn off and retracted, labrum torn from anterior to posterior(type 2 SLAP tear). Little easier in my case as I don’t have an option, really. But, I’m not hanging it up, was pushing for 500lb bench by 50(I’m 47), so, looks like I lose about a year of progess, but, I’ll still push as soon as I’m ready.

Do you plan on resuming heavy bench pressing? I have had to find other ways to develop my pecs.

 

[Bumpygooch]

Do you plan on resuming heavy bench pressing? I have had to find other ways to develop my pecs.

I do plan on it, yes. However, I think I’ll relearn the movement, slingshot supposed to help with that. Perfect opportunity to relearn as I’ll be starting with light weight once I get the green light. Of course, my shoulder may have a different idea.