Would you inject this (pics)

Yes I would bc I'm confident enough that it is not contamination but that has no bearing on me changing my mind if the test comes back saying otherwise. Unlike you though, I'm open to changing my mind wherein lies your problem.

Please don't try to lecture me on common sense or the laws of chemistry. This thread has shown you don't know about either.

The thing is though what else could it be? What chemicals that steroids are made with could cause such a reaction to form those fuzzy white balls. It has already been compared to crashed gear and it's not that.
 
Yes I would bc I'm confident enough that it is not contamination but that has no bearing on me changing my mind if the test comes back saying otherwise. Unlike you though, I'm open to changing my mind wherein lies your problem.

Please don't try to lecture me on common sense or the laws of chemistry. This thread has shown you don't know about either.



how many batches have you made that had fussy balls as crashed gear? how many batches have you made that had crystals from crashed gear? you are right I am not going to change my mind no matter the results. I will only believe one result, so if it comes back anything but contaminated. the lab either didn't check or dropped the ball on being independent. I'm afraid my friend your common sense has left the building on this issue.
 
how many batches have you made that had fussy balls as crashed gear? how many batches have you made that had crystals from crashed gear? you are right I am not going to change my mind no matter the results. I will only believe one result, so if it comes back anything but contaminated. the lab either didn't check or dropped the ball on being independent. I'm afraid my friend your common sense has left the building on this issue.
So if, and I do mean IF, the test results come back as no contamination, you're going to chalk it up to simec being non reputable? As if they are either sloppy with testing or paid off by pharmacom? In that case everything done by anabolic lab is a joke and waste of time to you? Come on man, think about what you're saying here. You come across as simply not wanting to be wrong more than anything else.
 
The thing is though what else could it be? What chemicals that steroids are made with could cause such a reaction to form those fuzzy white balls. It has already been compared to crashed gear and it's not that.

OP said after heating it once or twice the same thing came back. Then after another attempt at heating it hasnt come back. If it is contamination then it has to be bc it wasn't filtered properly No bacteriostatic agent used, benzyl alcohol, so as to let contamination grow to begin with. The bacteria would keep coming back and not go away completely if this were the case.
 
how many batches have you made that had fussy balls as crashed gear? how many batches have you made that had crystals from crashed gear? you are right I am not going to change my mind no matter the results. I will only believe one result, so if it comes back anything but contaminated. the lab either didn't check or dropped the ball on being independent. I'm afraid my friend your common sense has left the building on this issue.

You talk about me being biased in a previous post and you can't even see it in yourself when looking in the mirror.....

How many batches have you made that were contaminated and verified independently?
 
This shit it's hilarious. Why are you even replying to him? He is a fucking joke. Just let him be.
 
You talk about me being biased in a previous post and you can't even see it in yourself when looking in the mirror.....

How many batches have you made that were contaminated and verified independently?



I am being bias against the fuzzy balls. I hope you guys never get an infection from any of that gear. I understand talking over the internet makes me come off like I'm being a know it all dick, but that is the internet. I'm sure we could have a more in depth and educating talk if we was talking in person. I'm not going to type out pages of shit to prove me right. I don't care that much. 0 would be my answer to fuzzy balls.
 
So if, and I do mean IF, the test results come back as no contamination, you're going to chalk it up to simec being non reputable? As if they are either sloppy with testing or paid off by pharmacom? In that case everything done by anabolic lab is a joke and waste of time to you? Come on man, think about what you're saying here. You come across as simply not wanting to be wrong more than anything else.


I'm trying to think of all the ways I could be wrong and I'm coming up with 0.
 
HuckingFuge and I have had our disagreements in the past but he's still a good person imo. We don't always see eye to eye but I still have respect for the guy.
I didn't say he is a bad person. Neither I insulted him as a person but I despise is way of thinking towards the issue we have here with the vial, and I have to much respect for millard and AL to have a person question all of that even if indirectly because he believes that the vial is contaminated no matter what.

I hope my point is clear and don't get misunderstood due to language barrier. Huge can be the most nice and kind person of this world but on this issue he is acting as a close minded person and I see no point in arguing With someone that has already made is mind up no matter what.

I was maybe a bit harsh on the comment, but this kind of things make me lose it a bit. Apologize about it
 
I can't have a civil conversation with a person that would prefer to discredit AL and SIMEC in case the test come
Back negative instead of saying: I was wrong. Sorry.


you not see in the news the lab that has been screwing up results for years? just because said lab is suppose to be independent doesn't mean anything.

on this issue I'm going to stay closed minded. I know what I saw and I know my experience with what we are talking about. some things you just can't be open minded on and this is one of them.
 
you not see in the news the lab that has been screwing up results for years? just because said lab is suppose to be independent doesn't mean anything.

on this issue I'm going to stay closed minded. I know what I saw and I know my experience with what we are talking about. some things you just can't be open minded on and this is one of them.

Ok Fuge. We are
Not going anywhere :) let's say I disagree with your opinion and I don't like it at all. But you have been polite in expressing it and you are entitled to have your own belief I apologise for have been "rude" on the above posts.

Take care
 
I've stayed out of this cause I have yet to have any gear crash on me or grow bacteria but I just got one question: if this really is bacteria, fungus, aliens, mold, spores or whatever growing in those vials how would heating it up make it go away if it was actually organisms growing inside of it? I could see heating it discolor a fungus or bacteria but how would heating it make them (bacteria/spores) completely melt away and disappear?
 
I've stayed out of this cause I have yet to have any gear crash on me or grow bacteria but I just got one question: if this really is bacteria, fungus, aliens, mold, spores or whatever growing in those vials how would heating it up make it go away if it was actually organisms growing inside of it? I could see heating it discolor a fungus or bacteria but how would heating it make them (bacteria/spores) completely melt away and disappear?

If you look a few posts up you'll see I made the same point and I agree with you. Nothing OP did at the temps and times he did it for would have been enough to completely get rid of the bacteria. You are right on the money.
 
Yeah that's the part that had me scratching my head. Heating it may kill the organisms but they would still be left behind in some visual form.

I didn't wanna chime in earlier and sound like a dumbass but that was one thing that kept irking me.
 
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