Would you inject this (pics)

Yeah that's the part that had me scratching my head. Heating it may kill the organisms but they would still be left behind in some visual form.

I didn't wanna chime in earlier and sound like a dumbass but that was one thing that kept irking me.
Yes. That's why it looks like crashed gear. Killing "it" won't take away it's physical form almost instantaneously, I certainly can't imagine in this particular time span.
 
I've never personally experienced crashed gear. But this is pharmacoms npp 100. It looks like mini cotton balls.

Is this just crashed gear or contaminated and some moldy shit?

After heating it's back to normal.

I've never personally experienced crashed gear. But this is pharmacoms npp 100. It looks like mini cotton balls.

Is this just crashed gear or contaminated and some moldy shit?

After heating it's back to normal.
This is mold in water there is a ressemblance to your gear
 

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Pic off google dawg or i would and chances are it may disappear but mold spores can be on a microscopic level once contaminated it can always comeback

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Pic off google dawg or i would and chances are it may disappear but mold spores can be on a microscopic level once contaminated it can always comeback

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I had to throw 3 bottles in the Microwave (one at a time) one bottle had 1 ball in it. Going on almost a week they are all still clear with no visable particles.
 
Be a man! Pin it! Be the hero of meso if you don't get a hole in your ass the arguments will end. If you do... I promise you that you will be remembered by all our meso bros. we will not forget!

NEVER FORGET!
 
do you have chemical education?

where are experements here?

if you don`t like microwave oven you can put them into hot water.

Yea in fact I do and a medical one also. No I much prefer analytical testing over "experiments".

While it may be a common practice to "heat up" UGL products in bro-land, such an endeavor does NOT comply with existing PHARMACEUTICAL standards.

And that standard is, RETURN the product to the involved manufacturer for a FULL REFUND or a REPLACEMENT!

So rather than having YOUR CUSTOMERS jump thru unsubstianted proof of efficacy and safety standards, take the high ground Pharmacon and
initiate a no questions asked return policy on maters of this sort.

Or perhaps you would rather be referred to as "just another UGL"!
 
OP if the ball comes back, or anyone who is having this issue, why not just try to make a culture outside of the vial? If it grows we know for sure its biological, if not we are inconclusive.
 
Bc very few bacteria can use triglycerides as sole energy source, the chances microbes are responsible for such gross VISIBLE "contamination" approximates ZERO.


In circumstances of this nature the source is almost always chemical (buffers, preservatives, extraneous compounds and yes even AAS, to name a few) which has exceeded it's saturation point.
 
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Bc very few bacteria can use triglycerides as sole energy source, the chances microbes are responsible for such gross VISIBLE "contamination" approximates ZERO.


In circumstances of this nature the source is almost always chemical (buffers, preservatives, extraneous compounds and yes even AAS, to name a few) which has exceeded it's saturation point.

Cheers, I guess I didn't really consider theyd only have TGs to survive off of. No water, very little to no oxygen.
 
Cheers, I guess I didn't really consider theyd only have TGs to survive off of. No water, very little to no oxygen.

Want proof? How long has that bottle of vegetable OIL been sitting in the cupboard at home absent bacteria?l overgrowth I' suspect there are a few bacteria that may subsist on a diet of TRI's but reproduction would be another matter.

Oh and the reason that kitchen oil becomes rancid over time is due OXIDATION of the oil itself rather than bacterial contamination.

Heck add a preservative such as Benzyl Alcohol, and appropriately filter the product and these are some of the reasons INFECTIONS from pinning AAS are almost always bc of sloppy USER TECHNIQUE!

Ever wonder why even Pharmaceutical Parenteral AAS have a 1-2 year shelf life yet
darn near everything else using a saline/water/glucose (yummie) based solvent has a shelf life of like 2-3 months!
 
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I believe you, I wasn't questioning you. Your rhetoric comes off as defensive to me, I apologize if I offended you.

Yes, I am familiar with lipid oxidation via oxygen, catalyzed by light or heat typically. Hence why its unwise to leave butter/other oils (particularly unsaturated oils) open and in the sun.

Yeah I agree user technique tends to be the violator, hence why most injection infections I have read about (I'm not well experience in this area however) are common bacteria that tend to be on the skin (like staph a)
 
Hate to be "that guy" bro ! Anything ? Those guys need a cuff in the head if not imo lol

It's becoming one excuse after another. They said they moved lab locations and have been backed up. Should have it by "this week".

If they were a source id be tearing them apart and callin them scammers for the lack of communication and run around
 
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