Would you inject this (pics)

kinda looks like test suspension but less cloudy. that the only time i have seen small little white clumps like a peptide
 
For the record I'm on your side and still think this NPP that Luca posted, something is wrong with it.

I'm also with you on the "nookin" ordeal too. Warming the vial in a microwave is dense logic. Metal does not go in microwaves.

However, this vial is straight from local pharmacy. Sun Pharma. I think warming the hormone in hot water is ok.
Yes and I agree with that. I said it before. Warming it because of freezing temps OK...ONCE. .. but for someone needing to do this every time is wrong. That's careless practices and very poor methods. If they don't know how to work with npp, they shouldn't offer it till they can make sure there won't be a single vial that's tainted/crashed or whatever else. I'm shocked that they are ok that there are so many vials that have come forward, wonder how many more will show up. That's a huge red flag for me.

That is the biggest problem. And to be honest, even if those white growth things inside the vial prove to being just "crashed" gear, it's still an issue... the root of the problem isnt solved...that they are selling gear not mastered to perfection and people have to nook it each time they use it... I can only imagine the pip or issues you're going to encounter. I'm in a complete "awe" that some "reputable" ugl is OK with this and tells people to throw it in the microwave.
 
I'm sorry but I am not stupid. I know the procedures quite well, as well as the various solvents that are used in production including other options that entail manufacture of properly made gear. And I can tell you this, benzyl alcohol isn't what keeps the hormone suspended, it keeps it sterile and yes if too much is used then it will have PIP. I highly doubt they would overdose for free, especially on a sale item, that's a joke! and the temperatures, if it was just effected from the temperature then he wouldn't have to keep 'nooking' it... and finally, the white floaties in his vial are not what your typical temperature crash looks like...so that's bull!

I actually saw some good posts about you before and had respect... lately there has been a lot of shitty reviews and issues... and the way you are dealing with it, it shows how much you truly care about people's well-being. I have lost total and complete respect for you dude!
first of all i am sorry, i even did not realize you are a girl. i have a ton of opened tabs in browser, switch all the time. also some guys lake to have avatars of babes. my fault. you are just not on my place, you do not work with it as much as i do. i experiences a tons of attacks due to different reasons from different customers. like here now. but ALWAYS, absolutely always all test results proved that i have right. I know that our gear can not be contaminated, that`s it. I know that crashed gear can look in absolutely different ways. I know that heating absolutely always helps with crashed gear, especially microwaving. That is all. These are just facts. If anyone has anydoubts he still can send absolutely any vial to Simec. Everything is extremely easy. But i will not suffer unfounded accusations of our gear. If you have facts, please take a word and show, if not... i will find what to reply. Because test reports and my experience show that i am absolutely always right about our gear. I just know what it is and how it is produced.
 
Yes and I agree with that. I said it before. Warming it because of freezing temps OK...ONCE. .. but for someone needing to do this every time is wrong. That's careless practices and very poor methods. If they don't know how to work with npp, they shouldn't offer it till they can make sure there won't be a single vial that's tainted/crashed or whatever else. I'm shocked that they are ok that there are so many vials that have come forward, wonder how many more will show up. That's a huge red flag for me.

That is the biggest problem. And to be honest, even if those white growth things inside the vial prove to being just "crashed" gear, it's still an issue... the root of the problem isnt solved...that they are selling gear not mastered to perfection and people have to nook it each time they use it... I can only imagine the pip or issues you're going to encounter. I'm in a complete "awe" that some "reputable" ugl is OK with this and tells people to throw it in the microwave.
any gear at cold temparature can get crystals, do you realize it? absolutely any, even official and prescribed produced under strongest control oils. at cold temperature gear and especially npp can crash. that is all. you will never see such things if you but it in summer.
 
I hate that this is turning meso brothers against each other. I don't want it to be against each other.

And My intentions weren't to run pharmacoms name through the mud. I just want the truth.

With that being said I will send it to simec. Not for myself cause by the time I get the results my cycle will be over. But the board members should know the truth. If it comes back clean then great. If it's contaminated then the pitch forks come out
 
first of all i am sorry, i even did not realize you are a girl. i have a ton of opened tabs in browser, switch all the time. also some guys lake to have avatars of babes. my fault. you are just not on my place, you do not work with it as much as i do. i experiences a tons of attacks due to different reasons from different customers. like here now. but ALWAYS, absolutely always all test results proved that i have right. I know that our gear can not be contaminated, that`s it. I know that crashed gear can look in absolutely different ways. I know that heating absolutely always helps with crashed gear, especially microwaving. That is all. These are just facts. If anyone has anydoubts he still can send absolutely any vial to Simec. Everything is extremely easy. But i will not suffer unfounded accusations of our gear. If you have facts, please take a word and show, if not... i will find what to reply. Because test reports and my experience show that i am absolutely always right about our gear. I just know what it is and how it is produced.
Wow! And now you're insulting me because I'm a girl... I could teach you a few things...I wasn't born yesterday. I'm also very familiar with European laboratories and how they work... I wasn't born yesterday.

And like I said, I don't care if it passes or not, I'm sure you have your ways. Either way it's not properly made, otherwise it would stay in solution...BUT It's the principal behind it. Don't sell gear that crashes, and test it first before you send out to ensure it doesn't turn to garbage.

And finally, your cocky attitude and approach to this situation sucks and makes you look like a complete douche bag. And lately your inconsistent results from various members shows that you're not really concerned about your clients but the bottom line.
 
any gear at cold temparature can get crystals, do you realize it? absolutely any, even official and prescribed produced under strongest control oils. at cold temperature gear and especially npp can crash. that is all. you will never see such things if you but it in summer.
Omg you totally miss the point! Read my posts and you may be able to figure out that I'm aware of gear possibly crystalizing in freezing temps...you reheat once and it's good... unlike your shitty batch that needs to be nooked everytime due to some mysterious white growth in the vial. And that's your brilliant solution.
 
I hate that this is turning meso brothers against each other. I don't want it to be against each other.

And My intentions weren't to run pharmacoms name through the mud. I just want the truth.

With that being said I will send it to simec. Not for myself cause by the time I get the results my cycle will be over. But the board members should know the truth. If it comes back clean then great. If it's contaminated then the pitch forks come out
No its not your fault. People need to know. No point of hiding and then realizing that it's an issue that should have been nipped in the butt with the very FIRST bad vial.
 
Wow! And now you're insulting me because I'm a girl... I could teach you a few things...I wasn't born yesterday. I'm also very familiar with European laboratories and how they work... I wasn't born yesterday.

And like I said, I don't care if it passes or not, I'm sure you have your ways. Either way it's not properly made, otherwise it would stay in solution...BUT It's the principal behind it. Don't sell gear that crashes, and test it first before you send out to ensure it doesn't turn to garbage.

And finally, your cocky attitude and approach to this situation sucks and makes you look like a complete douche bag. And lately your inconsistent results from various members shows that you're not really concerned about your clients but the bottom line.
i am not insulting you. i guess there is a language barrier here. i just said that i did not know that you are a girl.
i got what you say, but you can not get what i am trying to say. not for nothing there are storing conditions on medications. it is just not possible to sell gear which will not crash. if storage conditions are not observed and a parcel is say 2 weeks at minus temperature, crystals can appear absolutely independent on where and by whom it was produced. And if we add more chemistry you jsut won`t be able to use this gear.
about the last post. i know, i just know that this gear will not cause any problem and it does not present any risk for his health. i used crashed gear myself a lot of times. and finally if i did not care about it i would not even offer to test it. i would do exactly what was offered here before, i would just agree to reship new vials and hush up this thread. it would be also cheaper for me. however i chose another way. so, i disagree with you. you just don`t know me. maybe i seem rude, i don`t think so, cause i am actually know. i guess this is just a language barrier.
 
Omg you totally miss the point! Read my posts and you may be able to figure out that I'm aware of gear possibly crystalizing in freezing temps...you reheat once and it's good... unlike your shitty batch that needs to be nooked everytime due to some mysterious white growth in the vial. And that's your brilliant solution.

I agree if it's crashed because of any exposure to lower temps it's should only have to be heated once and it stays.

I heated and all of the stuff disappeared but over the last 24hrs is beginning to reaper
 
Omg you totally miss the point! Read my posts and you may be able to figure out that I'm aware of gear possibly crystalizing in freezing temps...you reheat once and it's good... unlike your shitty batch that needs to be nooked everytime due to some mysterious white growth in the vial. And that's your brilliant solution.
our gear does not require to be heated up every time. once. maybe twice in worst case. but sure not every time. did i miss something? Lucabratzi said: After heating it's back to normal.
 
It was shipped out in a normal form as a regular oil. what he received is only the result of the vial being stored under low temperature. that is all. if you take any oil gear and put it into freezer you get the same result. that is crashed gear. and you will see it after simec confirms there are no contaminants there. if you wanna ideal gear go and try to buy it in a drug store.
my english has nothing to do with the the fact of the matter. why shall i replace good gear? for what reason? because you decided it? i would spare my words here. soulution is simple , he sends it to simec and checks for contents and microbiolocgical contamination or whatever he wants. we as always cover all expenses. you will see how we again and as always passed the test.
Under what circumstances would you call this GOOD gear? Seems the proof is in the vial, comrade.
what the fuck you are talking about?
Replace it and be fucking done? yeah nice fucking idea! So we will never find out what the fuck is that. Maybe in your world a source replace the shit compensate the guy and everything is ok, in mine is not.
I want a certified lab to test the fucking vial and find out who is telling the truth and who is just spitting shit out of his mouth.

Oh btw I'm a fan boy? And most of you are just a bunch of fucking sheep that follow the bash wagon because it's cool, because it makes you strong and because you have no fucking balls to ever say something that could lead someone to call you: a shill, cocksucker, fanboy.

Use your damn brain, if the shit gets dissolved and then reappear when the liquid get cold again, it's damn crashed PROBABLY but we will never know unless we lab test it.

Shape me in a stand up meso citizens? AHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

After I have read the mindless thread, I'll never aspire to be a "stand up meso citizens" at ALL. That thread got so much shit out of the box that lots of ppl should be ashamed.
I had a nice read of your back and forth with brutus as well. Masterpiece.
So let me get this straight...
Luca buys guy. Finds out its unusable. Sends gear to be tested and essentially receives no gear and you don't think it should be replaced? The mans cycle is over Ragu. You sound more and more like a fucking ball clinger if I ever heard one. Afraid to lose your source? Or interested in seeing luca getting taken care of? Your choice

And before I'm done with you understand this...
No one here or in life has ever accused me of having no balls. Or a fucking sheep you worthless source whore. Now you see this is getting fun isn't it?
 
our gear does not require to be heated up every time. once. maybe twice in worst case. but sure not every time. did i miss something? Lucabratzi said: After heating it's back to normal.
Read his post in its entirety... you clearly only read and see what you want to see...pathetic
 
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