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Agreed but a few PE forums advise AA water as does ChatGPT.

I appreciate u taking the time to search and trying to help out though :-)
You know what - that makes sense. The name brand ones are single dose injectors. So unless you plan on using your whole vial in one shot - chatgtp might be on to something...


Grok says this, btw:

Alprostadil for injection (the active ingredient in Caverject, Edex, Trimix/Quadmix/Bimix compoundscan be reconstituted with two different types of water, and the choice matters a lot for comfort, stability, and how long the vial stays usable.

### Bacteriostatic Water (BW or “Bac Water”)
- Contains 0.9–1% benzyl alcohol as a preservative
- What the FDA-approved brand-name products (Caverject, Caverject Impulse, Edex) all use
- Slightly less painful on injection because benzyl alcohol is a mild local anesthetic
- Officially approved for multi-dose use (the package insert says the reconstituted vial is good for 24 hours at room temperature, but many clinics and the manufacturer’s own stability data allow refrigerated storage for weeks)
- Downside: benzyl alcohol can, over weeks/months, slowly degrade prostaglandins (alprostadil is a prostaglandin E1). In practice this is rarely a very slow process when refrigerated, and most men finish a 5–20 µg vial long before significant potency loss occurs.

### Sterile Water with Acetic Acid 0.6% (“AA Water” or “Prostaglandin Reconstitution Solution”)
- Sold by many 503A/503B compounding pharmacies specifically for Trimix, Bimix, Quadmix
- Contains a tiny amount of acetic acid (vinegar) to drop the pH to ~4, which dramatically improves alprostadil stability
- No benzyl alcohol → no slow degradation of the prostaglandin
- Pharmacies that ship Trimix nationwide almost always use this because vials routinely last 3–6 months frozen and 30–90 days refrigerated with essentially zero potency loss
- Downside: the acetic acid makes the injection sting/burn noticeably more than bacteriostatic water for most men (some describe it as “hot” or “burning” for 30–60 seconds). A few guys don’t notice any difference, but the majority do.

### Why the difference in recommendations?

- Brand-name manufacturers (Pfizer, Schwarz Pharma/Endo) only tested and got FDA approval with bacteriostatic water, so that’s what they have to tell you to use.
- Compounding pharmacies and men who compound their own (or use “research” alprostadil) want maximum shelf life and rock-solid potency 3–6 months later, so they switched to the acetic-acid version years ago and have stability data showing it’s vastly superior for long-term storage.

### Practical advice most experienced users and urologists follow

- If you are using an official Caverject/Edex kit → just use the diluent they give you (it’s bacteriostatic water). You’ll finish the vial in a few weeks anyway.
- If you are using compounding-pharmacy Trimix/Quadmix/Bimix or raw alprostadil powder → most people use the acetic-acid water the pharmacy provides because the vial will last 3–6 months with no measurable loss of strength. Accept the extra sting or…
- Some guys who are very pain-sensitive ask the compounding pharmacy to reconstitute with bacteriostatic water instead (many pharmacies will do it on request). You trade a little shelf life for much less burn.

Bottom line
“Bac water” = less pain, perfectly fine shelf life for most people, required for FDA-approved products.
“AA water” = more sting, but near-perfect long-term stability, standard in the compounding world.

Choose based on how long you need the vial to last and how sensitive you are to injection-site burn.
 
Order number 2 has arrived! Placed on 19th Nov, Tracking 22nd, Arrived 1st Dec. So 12 days from payment. All good no damage. I will check the vaccuum seals as I start using the stuff.

Couldn't resist getting some of the 100IU 10mL HGH vials! It will be interesting to see if the 10mL NAD+ and HGH bottles have good vacuum seals on them. Havent seen peptides in 10mL vials before and as far as I know they dont vacuum seal AAS, so will they have a machine to do 10mL vials?

I also placed another order on 28th with the black friday prices, waiting on tracking confirmation.
How would I find their list?
 
Order number 2 has arrived! Placed on 19th Nov, Tracking 22nd, Arrived 1st Dec. So 12 days from payment. All good no damage. I will check the vaccuum seals as I start using the stuff.

Couldn't resist getting some of the 100IU 10mL HGH vials! It will be interesting to see if the 10mL NAD+ and HGH bottles have good vacuum seals on them. Havent seen peptides in 10mL vials before and as far as I know they dont vacuum seal AAS, so will they have a machine to do 10mL vials?

I also placed another order on 28th with the black friday prices, waiting on tracking confirmation.

Let us know how you like the 100iu vials, definitely considering ordering these once i see some janoshik tests of them
 
Are the vials 10ML?
I believe that pharma glutathione comes in either 600mg dose or 1600mg dose per vial depending on which one you order. I'm using the 600mg vials right now and just toss 1ML Bac and pin the entire vial in delt. No issues at all. If you get 1600mg vials then use a few ML Bac and you can do whatever you want for a dose. 300mg, 600mg, etc.
 
Order number 2 has arrived! Placed on 19th Nov, Tracking 22nd, Arrived 1st Dec. So 12 days from payment. All good no damage. I will check the vaccuum seals as I start using the stuff.

Couldn't resist getting some of the 100IU 10mL HGH vials! It will be interesting to see if the 10mL NAD+ and HGH bottles have good vacuum seals on them. Havent seen peptides in 10mL vials before and as far as I know they dont vacuum seal AAS, so will they have a machine to do 10mL vials?

I also placed another order on 28th with the black friday prices, waiting on tracking confirmation.

Lyophilization (freeze drying) takes place under vacuum. So vacuum isn’t a separate step. That’s why a vial without vacuum always represents some kind of failure that allows unsterile, humid atmospheric air into the vial.

Usually the most obvious cause is it, a leaking stopper.
 
I believe that pharma glutathione comes in either 600mg dose or 1600mg dose per vial depending on which one you order. I'm using the 600mg vials right now and just toss 1ML Bac and pin the entire vial in delt. No issues at all. If you get 1600mg vials then use a few ML Bac and you can do whatever you want for a dose. 300mg, 600mg, etc.
Interesting, I just see everywhere that if the dose is higher than 200mg/ml it’s a very painful injection.
 
Mind me asking which rep was that?
Cavan - to give an update on this, he asked to see the effect on two more vials. When I sent evidence of the same lack of vacuum, he offered to provide a credit for the kit, which I accepted as a reasonable resolution to this. I'm happy with the balance of my last order, so I'll give WWB another shot and hope this leads to some QC updates.
 
Got 3 kits of 10mg Reta, all of them are vacuumed so far, just got one vial that felt slightly „off“ and not fully vacuumed, but all fine so far. Shit is working great, I’m happy, wife is happy, friends are happy.
Right on. I have about 6 left from another domestic supplier before I switch to WWB’s.
 
Hi

Does anyone know if the Acetic Acid Water that WWB sells is suitable for reconstituting the Alprostadil that he sells?

When I was about to order his Alprostadil and AA water together he mentioned that the AA water that they sell is specifically made to mix with AOD and he was unsure if it would mix with anything else other than that.

He’s unsure of what his costumers normally use to reconstitute Alprostadil, I would have assumed that it was the same AA water he sells but now I’m not certain myself either.

Thanks
I wouldnt use any AA or bac from the sellers. Go elsewhere and get better stuff. Ive seen a lot of problems with people recon with seller bac etc then change and its all good
 
I wouldnt use any AA or bac from the sellers. Go elsewhere and get better stuff. Ive seen a lot of problems with people recon with seller bac etc then change and its all good
I know many that uses their bac and have no issues at all, maybe some people are more sensitive in that I think
 
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