You ever try hitting the hamstring curls before squatting? You might be SHOCKED at how explosive they are when they're warmed up!
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Always squat or press with warm hams!
I have not, so just get in a light warm up, or get a few good setd in prior to squats?
Depends on your goals! So, if you're looking to maximize your squat weight-wise, just a few warmup sets would be fine. I am not so concerned with the weight on the bar as I train for aesthetics, mostly. So, I do 4 warmup sets working up to 4 working sets for hamstrings (most of the time) before hitting a squat or press.
You really wanna make those hamstrings scream? Start your leg day with this:
4 warmup sets working up to your ~10 rep max
Do 3 sets of ten where you squeeze hard for 1 second at the top, and take 3 seconds to lower the weight. No resting, drive up right when the weights tap each other!
On set 4 do the 10 reps like before, then finish with as many partials at the bottom as possible. You should hit around at least 20 or you're not working hard enough!
Then squat
Scary.... now I gotta face my fears
Ozzy619
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Depends on your goals! So, if you're looking to maximize your squat weight-wise, just a few warmup sets would be fine. I am not so concerned with the weight on the bar as I train for aesthetics, mostly. So, I do 4 warmup sets working up to 4 working sets for hamstrings (most of the time) before hitting a squat or press.
You really wanna make those hamstrings scream? Start your leg day with this:
4 warmup sets working up to your ~10 rep max
Do 3 sets of ten where you squeeze hard for 1 second at the top, and take 3 seconds to lower the weight. No resting, drive up right when the weights tap each other!
On set 4 do the 10 reps like before, then finish with as many partials at the bottom as possible. You should hit around at least 20 or you're not working hard enough!
Then squat
I'm going to have to try this hamstring warm up of yours. For the first time in a long time I've been working for aesthetics with a ton of volume.
On a side note, did I miss a cycle layout of compounds and dosage amounts?
Ozzy619
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This is fucking beautiful and I really like how you have everything at big boy doses, especially the tren. Looking forward how you like this stack and your progress. I'll be subbed for sure now
Mister Sandman
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I see you are planning to use carnitine
I've read all kind of positive and negatives on it
What is your take on the risks? I was also interested in it but not so sure
I've read all kind of positive and negatives on it
What is your take on the risks? I was also interested in it but not so sure
Carnitine arrived today. I am VERY impressed with Syntheteks shipping. Price for the product was fair too.
I will try it today with 8iu Humalog and 5iu GH pre workout and report back if I notice anything interesting. If not, I'll run it for 2 weeks and see where it goes. Hoping this helps melt off the final few pounds of fat before summer hits.
My only complaint is the bottle doesn't seem particularly sterile, so I'm going to filter it into a sterile vial.
I will try it today with 8iu Humalog and 5iu GH pre workout and report back if I notice anything interesting. If not, I'll run it for 2 weeks and see where it goes. Hoping this helps melt off the final few pounds of fat before summer hits.
My only complaint is the bottle doesn't seem particularly sterile, so I'm going to filter it into a sterile vial.
OdieM
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I was just looking at that product on their site yesterday. Please let me know your thoughts on it.
I absolutely will!
OdieM
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I know your hero Mr. Meadows is endorsing it. Lol. Nah but he gave a solid review of it
Lol my hero... Odie's in quite a shit starting mood the past few weeks!
Meadows wrote a huge essay on it, if you wanna look it over.
I need to get me a pack of component to get on the big boy level, even tho I'll be running lil boy doses (doubt I'll go over 350mg wk on my first Tren run )
OdieM
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I saw it yesterday. Just hard to tell if it's an actual review or if they kicked him some money. Others in that thread seem to love it though.
I'm just playing with you. I know you speak highly of the guy and have made his workouts your own. Plus you've posted a few pics of him in here.
I would be shocked if he was paid for the essay. It's literally at the very end he mentions once the brand he used was Synthetek, yet you could use vet. grade as well... Doesn't sound like a paid endorsement, maybe. All the shit on PM is real tough to gauge how accurate is due to sponsorships and banning those who speak out.
OdieM
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Yeah I only say that cause I saw on PM where a guy publicly asked him to endorse his protein bars and John told him to take it to his email.
I hate you Pus! Your tweak raped my legs today! Skipped yesterday to take the lady out for drinks for st paddys. On a side note, warming up my hams, I was able to hit a new pr, 365 deadlift! Thanks for the tip!Depends on your goals! So, if you're looking to maximize your squat weight-wise, just a few warmup sets would be fine. I am not so concerned with the weight on the bar as I train for aesthetics, mostly. So, I do 4 warmup sets working up to 4 working sets for hamstrings (most of the time) before hitting a squat or press.
You really wanna make those hamstrings scream? Start your leg day with this:
4 warmup sets working up to your ~10 rep max
Do 3 sets of ten where you squeeze hard for 1 second at the top, and take 3 seconds to lower the weight. No resting, drive up right when the weights tap each other!
On set 4 do the 10 reps like before, then finish with as many partials at the bottom as possible. You should hit around at least 20 or you're not working hard enough!
Then squat
Okay, quick update on the injectable carnitine @OdieM. It's super smooth, runs right through a slin pin with literally zero pip. I mixed it with my B12 on Saturday and went in just fine. It seems to give me a bit of energy for an hour or two after pinning it. So far, it's hard to gauge HOW much fat burning is going on, let's give it another week or two to gauge that. So far, so good.
This weekend was an AWESOME chest day on Saturday, and a great leg day on Sunday. The training partner gave up about 3/4 of the way in, so it was Han Solo for the rest of the workout. However, he did stay and provide commentary / comic relief... LOL. What is with people with legs, calves and abs? Why do they always quit or refuse to work them? Hmm.
For shits, here was the leg day that BROKE my partner:
Seated leg curl – On these do 3-4 good warm ups first. 3 sets of 12 near failure. On the 4th set do 12, drop the weight and do 8 (I reduced by 20%), and drop again for 8 more (another 20%). @Trapmonster this one is for you!
Leg press- This one was the beginning of the end for my partner, ha. Do sets of 8, after each set add 1 plate to each side, and do another set of 8. Keep working up each set until you can't get 8 anymore. At that point, you're going to do the most horrific drop set imaginable (well, not really). Do your 8 but each rep should be a pause rep this time (hold it in the at the bottom for 1 second then DRIVE up). After you've done 8 of those, take off 20% or so and hit another 6-8 pause reps. And again, take another 20% off and go to absolute failure, even get some partials in if you have a partner (I think I got 20 reps with another 12 partials). Ouch.
Machine squat- Again with this back supported machine. If you don't have it, smith squats should be fine with your feet out in front of you. If you can't do that, front squats are good too. We're trying to smash quads now. Work up to 3 sets of 8. On your 4th set, you guessed it, a drop set of 8, then 6 and another 6 using the 20% drop in weight each time.
Bulgarian split squats- Ladies and gents, this is where the partner quit. I did 2 sets per leg of this bullshit, and it fucking sucked. Drop set of 8 reps with an 8 second iso hold (hold it about half way up), then another 8 reps w/ 8 second hold and one more 8 reps w/ an 8 second hold, per leg. I did each leg twice.
Dumbell stiff legged deadlift- 4 sets of 8, focus on squeezing your glutes as you come up.
Calves-
Seated calf raise. I did 2 giant sets, 10 full range reps, 10 second hold, 10 partials, 10 second hold, 10 partials and another 10 second hold. Do that set twice and you're done!
This was one for the books guys, it really beat the hell out of me.
This weekend was an AWESOME chest day on Saturday, and a great leg day on Sunday. The training partner gave up about 3/4 of the way in, so it was Han Solo for the rest of the workout. However, he did stay and provide commentary / comic relief... LOL. What is with people with legs, calves and abs? Why do they always quit or refuse to work them? Hmm.
For shits, here was the leg day that BROKE my partner:
Seated leg curl – On these do 3-4 good warm ups first. 3 sets of 12 near failure. On the 4th set do 12, drop the weight and do 8 (I reduced by 20%), and drop again for 8 more (another 20%). @Trapmonster this one is for you!
Leg press- This one was the beginning of the end for my partner, ha. Do sets of 8, after each set add 1 plate to each side, and do another set of 8. Keep working up each set until you can't get 8 anymore. At that point, you're going to do the most horrific drop set imaginable (well, not really). Do your 8 but each rep should be a pause rep this time (hold it in the at the bottom for 1 second then DRIVE up). After you've done 8 of those, take off 20% or so and hit another 6-8 pause reps. And again, take another 20% off and go to absolute failure, even get some partials in if you have a partner (I think I got 20 reps with another 12 partials). Ouch.
Machine squat- Again with this back supported machine. If you don't have it, smith squats should be fine with your feet out in front of you. If you can't do that, front squats are good too. We're trying to smash quads now. Work up to 3 sets of 8. On your 4th set, you guessed it, a drop set of 8, then 6 and another 6 using the 20% drop in weight each time.
Bulgarian split squats- Ladies and gents, this is where the partner quit. I did 2 sets per leg of this bullshit, and it fucking sucked. Drop set of 8 reps with an 8 second iso hold (hold it about half way up), then another 8 reps w/ 8 second hold and one more 8 reps w/ an 8 second hold, per leg. I did each leg twice.
Dumbell stiff legged deadlift- 4 sets of 8, focus on squeezing your glutes as you come up.
Calves-
Seated calf raise. I did 2 giant sets, 10 full range reps, 10 second hold, 10 partials, 10 second hold, 10 partials and another 10 second hold. Do that set twice and you're done!
This was one for the books guys, it really beat the hell out of me.
