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[Juice n Goose]

Has PEP addressed any of these issues? I have skimmed through the thread and don't see a reply from PEP. Has anyone heard from PEP since "floatergate" started? The fact that we are now looking at bacterial contamination is troublesome at the least.

Also, has Kane offered a response to any of the questions he was asked to provide answers for?

I do not see any indication of what you deem as "bacterial contamination" in these slides.
Id say so if I did and I dont.
A brand new house has a large amount of foreign bacteria just from the people traipsing through it.
BA is bacteriostatic(not bacteriocidal) yet it would be highly unlikely any compound which is oil-based and posessing a minimum of 2-4% Ba Harbors any prolific colonies though it is highly likely that it may posess microbes of a staggering array but not likely in any quantity to support a tangible threat to anyone with even a compromised immune system.(though technically possible). It would be foolhardy to use any AS when physically compromised unless ordered and closely monitored by a competent healthcare provider. Wouldnt you agree?
It is a simple matter of a sterile or evacuated vial just doesnt doesnt have what the vast majority of human-harmful microbial entities need to thrive. Yes there are strains of anaerobic bacteria which can and do live in the airless environment likened to a vial but the number of microbes which are considered lipophagocytotic,or being able to survive by"eating" lipids are pretty rare comparatively speaking.
I find it interesting that someone with the vast amount of organic chemistry knowledge you must posess to postulate such a theory would crawl so far out on a limb as to suggest otherwise
I didnt know really how else to nip such a preposterous statement in the bud before some folks misinterpret what youve said as anything even approaching plausability.
No hard feelings Im sure!
If I were you, and Im certainly not,not smart enough sadly...Id choose law as a profession as opposed to microbiology as lawyers are notorious for asking questions they already know the answers to such as"Has Kane provided a response to any of the questions he was asked to provide the answers to?"
That is actually clever how you have used terms like"floatergate" in quotation marks as if to suggest that you are truly quoting someone other than yourself!
Yes,Were you an attorney I should like to engage your services if I were to be caught doing something I shouldnt be doing! HAHA(I KID!!)
Forgive me but Im not sure if this post is a treatise from the Centers for Disease Control or an article in a grocery store tabloid.
Actually I think the author is just having a bit of fun with those of us not wise enough to tell the difference!!
He sure is a kidder!!! Thanks for the witty post BR..I havent had such a powerful belly laugh all day! Do please write some more,Im eager for another moment of joviality!
Good day Sir,
Goose

 

[stomps]

Stomps,

I see what you arr sayong about saliva and stomach acid but also how it relates to things we touch and then expose ourselves like a barbell at the gym and then you rub your eye. Food is definitely a part but what else? What about the open wound exposed to bacteria?

How often do you touch your actual eyeball
Usually you rub your eye with you eye closed and your eyelashes protect your eyes as well. And when you rub it sometimes your eye tears up and tears come out.
Same with your nose I do believe you have fine hairs that trap bacterial and your mucus I believe helps as well. And it all drains to your throat where you swallow.
As far as an open wound that's clear if you don't take care of it it gets infected.
Again I could be wrong as I don't have a degree in human biology

 

[TaoPhD]

I know stomps, just trying to see it from all angles.

 

[stomps]

I know stomps, just trying to see it from all angles.

Just sharing my thoughts and answering you questions
The body has great defense mechanisms

 

[Tinykid]

First off let me start by saying I am completely brand new to this and so take or dismiss my post as you choose.

I currently am 3 weeks into my first ever cycle using PEP test E. Once the product arrive I first inspected it the best I could for anything I could see that would look odd of off the wall. I am doing 240 mg 2x per week or .8 cc. My first injection was done in my delt and went very smooth. I am too new to this to know what pip is or what bad pip feels like but I can say I had very very minor pain in the delt. Really it was nothing worse than any immunization I have received.
All my further injections have never been painful and I have not have any issues with his test E. I am injecting with 25g 1 inch pins in my delts and quads, 1.5 inch in glutes. Again I am very new to this and was the first time I have ever done any injections period but I have never experienced anything close to pain or swelling that would not allow me to perform my daily routine or work out.

 

[JackC4]

480mg a week ? Round it up my man.

 

[Candyskull]

I do not see any indication of what you deem as "bacterial contamination" in these slides.
Id say so if I did and I dont.
A brand new house has a large amount of foreign bacteria just from the people traipsing through it.
BA is bacteriostatic(not bacteriocidal) yet it would be highly unlikely any compound which is oil-based and posessing a minimum of 2-4% Ba Harbors any prolific colonies though it is highly likely that it may posess microbes of a staggering array but not likely in any quantity to support a tangible threat to anyone with even a compromised immune system.(though technically possible). It would be foolhardy to use any AS when physically compromised unless ordered and closely monitored by a competent healthcare provider. Wouldnt you agree?
It is a simple matter of a sterile or evacuated vial just doesnt doesnt have what the vast majority of human-harmful microbial entities need to thrive. Yes there are strains of anaerobic bacteria which can and do live in the airless environment likened to a vial but the number of microbes which are considered lipophagocytotic,or being able to survive by"eating" lipids are pretty rare comparatively speaking.
I find it interesting that someone with the vast amount of organic chemistry knowledge you must posess to postulate such a theory would crawl so far out on a limb as to suggest otherwise
I didnt know really how else to nip such a preposterous statement in the bud before some folks misinterpret what youve said as anything even approaching plausability.
No hard feelings Im sure!
If I were you, and Im certainly not,not smart enough sadly...Id choose law as a profession as opposed to microbiology as lawyers are notorious for asking questions they already know the answers to such as"Has Kane provided a response to any of the questions he was asked to provide the answers to?"
That is actually clever how you have used terms like"floatergate" in quotation marks as if to suggest that you are truly quoting someone other than yourself!
Yes,Were you an attorney I should like to engage your services if I were to be caught doing something I shouldnt be doing! HAHA(I KID!!)
Forgive me but Im not sure if this post is a treatise from the Centers for Disease Control or an article in a grocery store tabloid.
Actually I think the author is just having a bit of fun with those of us not wise enough to tell the difference!!
He sure is a kidder!!! Thanks for the witty post BR..I havent had such a powerful belly laugh all day! Do please write some more,Im eager for another moment of joviality!
Good day Sir,
Goose

Holy fuck! Dr. Goose? How long have you been waiting to let loose some profound fucking elegance like that? Not that I don't appreciate your typical jarhead rabble, but damn brother, that was a moment right there!

 

[Test3_KD]

First off let me start by saying I am completely brand new to this and so take or dismiss my post as you choose.

I currently am 3 weeks into my first ever cycle using PEP test E. Once the product arrive I first inspected it the best I could for anything I could see that would look odd of off the wall. I am doing 240 mg 2x per week or .8 cc. My first injection was done in my delt and went very smooth. I am too new to this to know what pip is or what bad pip feels like but I can say I had very very minor pain in the delt. Really it was nothing worse than any immunization I have received.
All my further injections have never been painful and I have not have any issues with his test E. I am injecting with 25g 1 inch pins in my delts and quads, 1.5 inch in glutes. Again I am very new to this and was the first time I have ever done any injections period but I have never experienced anything close to pain or swelling that would not allow me to perform my daily routine or work out.

Sounds like beginners luck j/k. I'm glad your first injections went well for you. If your delt would have swelled double size like my ass did, i'd say you would have given up on the juice pretty quick like.

 

[TaoPhD]

I'm curious. For those that say lynch Pep and MPR and Kane, what do you propose we should do once we have run them out of here? I am in alignment with 1-4 when he said, it is better to stick with the devil you know...
Granted Pep needs to explain himself and his angry posts but I see alot of bashing and twisting. For instance, MPR asks for help getting info for everyone who has had an issue. The response though is that a bunch of people dissect and throw mud. I would imagine that this whole situation is a little overwhelming. It seems alot of people are just looking for an excuse to unload on someone, anyone.
Now, are there people with a legitimate axe to grind? Hell yea there are but some of these people that pop in and have no reason to speak on the matter period because they rarely offer anything is a little ridiculous.
I'm going to go against the majority and applaud coldbeastingit. He has stuck to his beliefs and not been afraid to voice his opinion. Yes there were insults hurled back and forth, but good for him. Isn't this what we are here for?
Lastly, I'm still surprised and a little shocked that Millard chimed in. Yes he has every right to but in one thread he supports a conspiracy theory and in the next thread poo poos one.
Again every one has a right to voice their opinions on this matter and all other matters and someone needs to speak up but if you automatically discount what is being said or have an angry knee jerk reaction, where does that get us?

 

[TaoPhD]

Holy fuck! Dr. Goose? How long have you been waiting to let loose some profound fucking elegance like that? Not that I don't appreciate your typical jarhead rabble, but damn brother, that was a moment right there!

You have no idea how smart that mofo is. He literally makes me dizzy

 

[03xx52]

For the record what I posted was a light bacterial contamination. You can filter it out and it is most likely non pathogenic. Let me post the pics right here for anyone that is getting confused.
I can't post them here.

 

[Candyskull]

You have no idea how smart that mofo is. He literally makes me dizzy

I have no doubts. The ruse is fun, but it takes someone with a bit going on upstairs to keep it running. I guess I just kind of discounted it. Shameful. Looks like I need to send someone a PM

 

[brutus79]

I do not see any indication of what you deem as "bacterial contamination" in these slides.
Id say so if I did and I dont.
A brand new house has a large amount of foreign bacteria just from the people traipsing through it.
BA is bacteriostatic(not bacteriocidal) yet it would be highly unlikely any compound which is oil-based and posessing a minimum of 2-4% Ba Harbors any prolific colonies though it is highly likely that it may posess microbes of a staggering array but not likely in any quantity to support a tangible threat to anyone with even a compromised immune system.(though technically possible). It would be foolhardy to use any AS when physically compromised unless ordered and closely monitored by a competent healthcare provider. Wouldnt you agree?
It is a simple matter of a sterile or evacuated vial just doesnt doesnt have what the vast majority of human-harmful microbial entities need to thrive. Yes there are strains of anaerobic bacteria which can and do live in the airless environment likened to a vial but the number of microbes which are considered lipophagocytotic,or being able to survive by"eating" lipids are pretty rare comparatively speaking.
I find it interesting that someone with the vast amount of organic chemistry knowledge you must posess to postulate such a theory would crawl so far out on a limb as to suggest otherwise
I didnt know really how else to nip such a preposterous statement in the bud before some folks misinterpret what youve said as anything even approaching plausability.
No hard feelings Im sure!
If I were you, and Im certainly not,not smart enough sadly...Id choose law as a profession as opposed to microbiology as lawyers are notorious for asking questions they already know the answers to such as"Has Kane provided a response to any of the questions he was asked to provide the answers to?"
That is actually clever how you have used terms like"floatergate" in quotation marks as if to suggest that you are truly quoting someone other than yourself!
Yes,Were you an attorney I should like to engage your services if I were to be caught doing something I shouldnt be doing! HAHA(I KID!!)
Forgive me but Im not sure if this post is a treatise from the Centers for Disease Control or an article in a grocery store tabloid.
Actually I think the author is just having a bit of fun with those of us not wise enough to tell the difference!!
He sure is a kidder!!! Thanks for the witty post BR..I havent had such a powerful belly laugh all day! Do please write some more,Im eager for another moment of joviality!
Good day Sir,
Goose

Goose- you are my idol right now brother.

 

[joe0035]

Ok completely unrelated buy I am about to kick a puppy! I use tor and the fucking thing makes me re-log in every couple minutes and I can't even "like" a post or use the smilies??????? Don't laugh I only learned what the tab key does about a year ago! That key makes the the curser jump to the next box in spread sheets and stuff! Fucking amazing! Hahaha

 

[GigaloRob]

How about instead of other people sticking up for Pep he actually communicates for himself. More than enough time has past for a response on his part.

 

[stomps]

I'm curious. For those that say lynch Pep and MPR and Kane, what do you propose we should do once we have run them out of here? I am in alignment with 1-4 when he said, it is better to stick with the devil you know...
Granted Pep needs to explain himself and his angry posts but I see alot of bashing and twisting. For instance, MPR asks for help getting info for everyone who has had an issue. The response though is that a bunch of people dissect and throw mud. I would imagine that this whole situation is a little overwhelming. It seems alot of people are just looking for an excuse to unload on someone, anyone.
Now, are there people with a legitimate axe to grind? Hell yea there are but some of these people that pop in and have no reason to speak on the matter period because they rarely offer anything is a little ridiculous.
I'm going to go against the majority and applaud coldbeastingit. He has stuck to his beliefs and not been afraid to voice his opinion. Yes there were insults hurled back and forth, but good for him. Isn't this what we are here for?
Lastly, I'm still surprised and a little shocked that Millard chimed in. Yes he has every right to but in one thread he supports a conspiracy theory and in the next thread poo poos one.
Again every one has a right to voice their opinions on this matter and all other matters and someone needs to speak up but if you automatically discount what is being said or have an angry knee jerk reaction, where does that get us?

Tao I feel this post is directed toward me
I did post the list of members that had problems however I think being a rep and all he should do the leg work and find the people who had problems or at the very least go back a few pages and find the list the first time I posted it

As far as Coldbeastinit
I don't think I attacked him just asked why all the harsh words.
He absolutely has a right to post his experiences.

I thought we were all here to help each other is it not?
It's starting to seem its all gear sad really

 

[TaoPhD]

Tao I feel this post is directed toward me
I did post the list of members that had problems however I think being a rep and all he should do the leg work and find the people who had problems or at the very least go back a few pages and find the list the first time I posted it

As far as Coldbeastinit
I don't think I attacked him just asked why all the harsh words.
He absolutely has a right to post his experiences.

I thought we were all here to help each other is it not?
It's starting to seem its all gear sad really

Stomps,
Perhaps a bad example. It was not directed toward you. I saw you did post the list and said he should have kept up with all the issues. My reasoning for coming at it for another reason is the fact that I have no idea how busy he may be. He has been on here at least.

Coldbeastingit... He attacked as well as others attacked him. Again, I promise it was not directed toward anyone in particular.

Maybe the example I should have used was the one I saw earlier where some guy came on and said something to the effect of how he was going to order and then didn't. I read that and was like, ok? I think there was another person I've never seen who said for Pep to get out asap.

Look, you may think it is a bit wishy washy of me but for the most part I try to speak in generalities. I will be specific when I feel it is needed but I promise this was not directed at you.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Stomps,

Perhaps a bad example. It was not directed toward you. I saw you did post the list and said he should have kept up with all the issues. My reasoning for coming at it for another reason is the fact that I have no idea how busy he may be. He has been on here at least.



Coldbeastingit... He attacked as well as others attacked him. Again, I promise it was not directed toward anyone in particular.



Maybe the example I should have used was the one I saw earlier where some guy came on and said something to the effect of how he was going to order and then didn't. I read that and was like, ok? I think there was another person I've never seen who said for Pep to get out asap.



Look, you may think it is a bit wishy washy of me but for the most part I try to speak in generalities. I will be specific when I feel it is needed but I promise this was not directed at you.

Yea Tao!! Stop with the generalities, you're making stomps feel awkward!! [)]

Totally kidding.. ^^

I think our points of view on this whole PEP thing aren't quite the same but I can agree with you on one thing... Nobody wants to hear a one post wonder pile it on, good OR bad..

 

[DigEm]

I haven't been on for a few days so I came on to see what was up and this shit fucking tanked over here big time.

Why the fuck is anybody trying to defend the source whe. He doesn't care enuf to defend himself? I mean of he woulda showed up right away and been like damn I fucked up and here's how I'm fixin it and the shit seemed legit then cool. But he just kinda bailed and motherfuckers are in here puttin each other on blast for some fuckin dude none of us knows.

Shit people have some self respect. Dont matter how good he was to you the motherfucker is MIA for his own defense. I ain't seen people this riled up since they closed the kitchen at the titty bar down the street cos of the roaches. There was roaches. Does your ass really need nachos that bad if your goin there for titties?

Yall need to realize this shit don't help no one. The bashin or dick suckin. The peace been spoke. Now GTFO and let this shit die a dignified death before it looks like that GH thread.

 

[TaoPhD]

Yea Tao!! Stop with the generalities, you're making stomps feel awkward!! [)]

Totally kidding.. ^^

I think our points of view on this whole PEP thing aren't quite the same but I can agree with you on one thing... Nobody wants to hear a one post wonder pile it on, good OR bad..

I just want answers the same as everyone else. Looking at my post I think I was looking at gigalorob's posts. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't remember Rob ever really being here before in this thread.

Rob, eventhough I'm asking and questioning, I am not try to be disrespectful and I believe you say these things because you want safety for members first. If you choose to flame, I won't say anything back and I hope to be corrected if I have misspoke.