Yellow Sclera on Tren

[MrFatso]

Hi guys,
I am in the 8th week of my Tren Ace cycle. Started with pcom Tren Ace and was very disappointed. Three weeks ago I changed the source and I was a bit more content with the results.
I am running 700mg Tren Ace 500mg Test E per week.

Recently I discovered that the white in my eyes is turning slightly yellow. Additionally my skin started aching and my piss is always yellow/brownish. I also for a few weeks now really struggle to eat alot of food and my digestion seems to not be working properly as in I have to take a shit like every 2-3 days and my skin is kind of dry.
Also I am like always tired. I used to be ok on 6 hours of sleep but now I sleep like 12 hours and still feel like shit when waking up.
Is this the tren? I am on no orals, only used some T3 which I also recently dropped. What is weird however, is the fact that I didn't really experience any of the other typical tren sides like insomnia or night sweats. The results were ok nothing too great. TBH I had better results from 4 weeks of Sdrol. Will dropping the tren and just running some Test E and NPP work?

 

[LordSamuilo]

Id drop everything and get blood work , your liver and kidneys sound like they are taking a hit ! At most id drop to trt until know whats going on with you liver and kidney functions !

 

[jJjburton]

yea its your liver

 

[MrFatso]

But is tren the problem? I didn't really read alot about tren being bad for your liver.

 

[Evom1]

But is tren the problem? I didn't really read alot about tren being bad for your liver.

90% likely it's the tren. Don't have an ego here, you're risking killing yourself. Drop the tren, drop test to 150-200mg a week DRINK A TON OF WATER AKA 2GALLONS and get blood work

 

[LordSamuilo]

Tren is definitely hepatoxic to some extent , and certain people will react worse to it then others ... you dont know , it could be you have a pre-existing condition thats exasperating the problem or any number of things , but why risk it ? Listen , im all for taking risk to some extent with PED's , but the day I wake up and my eyes are jaundiced is the day id drop pretty much anything im taking !!

 

[MrFatso]

Alright thanks guys.
Wasn't really that happy with my tren run. Always felt terrible with little gainz in the gym. I will drop it right away. Could the T3 or the Adex cause it? Or is maybe nolva a problem for the liver? Have been taking some nolva as recently my nips got a bit puffy.

 

[Kinetic]

I read today that some steroids that aren't known to be very hepatoxic can still end up causing liver problems because only so much glycogen can saturate the muscles before it starts to saturate the liver, resulting in fatty liver.

Not sure how accurate that is, but you should still definitely get blood work done or see a doctor if you're showing signs of jaundice.

 

[MrFatso]

Alright thanks. I will get a doctors appointment but here where I live in Europe I will have to wait at least a month before I can get my bloods drawn by my doctor.
Is it possible that the tren was so toxic because I ate <100grams of carbs per day?
I was in general rather disappointed by the tren. I feel like I look smaller than I did before I started it.
Also my stomach constantly feels full and I can't eat a decent sized meal.
Would it be ok to also add some low dose npp to the test to get some fullness back?

 

[Kinetic]

Personally, if it were me, I'd back off of all the gear - except maybe a TRT dose like @LordSamuilo mentioned - until you get to the bottom if whatever is causing the jaundice and get that sorted out.

What do you want more - to look good in a t-shirt or look good in a coffin?

 

[TRT]

That's 100% the liver. Sounds like jandice in the eyes. Drop it all and up b vitamin and water. Head for the hospital asap. Don't wait.
I've seen a lot of liver problems from heaving drugs use and all that sounds like liver.

 

[Dr JIM]

- my eyes is turning slightly yellow.

- my skin started aching

- my piss is always yellow/brownish.

- I struggle to eat alot of food

- my digestion seems to not be working properly

- my skin is kind of dry.

- I am like always tired.

I used to be ok on 6 hours of sleep but now bla, bla


Is this the tren?

"Slightly yellow eyes" as something YOU rather than others "noticed"

post a close up pic with your eyes WIDE OPEN.

OTHERWISE, based on such vague symptoms that few would even mention as being worrisome, the problems are in YOUR HEAD!

Care to elaborate on your psych HX OP!

IDK but something tells me (perhaps your prophetic handle is a contributing factor) you'll be much better off if you STOP running PEDS!

 

[MrFatso]

A friend noticed it first on me. I tried the best possible with my mobile phone.

 

[janoshik]

Piss changing color from trenbolone should not worry you, as it's the trenbolone and its metabolites changing the color.

My best guess is you having Gilbert syndrome which got pushed over by the use of trenbolone, which for sure, as documented by Mr. Bucks recent labwork, hits liver. Therefore, I wouldn't worry too much, but still immediate cessation of tren and a check by a doctor is indeed warranted.

 

[janoshik]

To clarify - Gilbert syndrome is very common, pretty harmless syndrome, which propagates as jaundice, that's easy to get - some people even get jaundice when they are stressed about exams.

 

[MrFatso]

Maybe the fact that I recently was fasting during ramadan added to the damage? I still drank at least 4 liters a day though.

 

[Dr JIM]

A friend noticed it first on me. I tried the best possible with my mobile phone.

Bc dark skinned folk have a certain degree of discoloration about the lateral canthus, use your index finger and thumb to retract your eye lids obtain a FRONTAL PIC while LOOKING down.

I need a PIC of the entire sclera bc
systemic causes of scleral icterus
are SYMMETRIC and should involve BOTH eyes in an almost identical manner.

And for those Meso trivia buffs, scleral icterus (eye yellowing) will not be noted until the serum bilirubin level exceeds roughly 2 mg/dl

 

[Maktub]

Not Beeing a dick . But why 700 mg tren & t3
Are you a pro?

That's the crazy thing . When you mix all those drugs is hard to tell which is fucking u up.
If I had those signs .. shit I wold drop all those drugs and get labs .

 

[Big_paul]

I didn't consider tren to be as liver toxic as some other AAS, I have had problems with dbol, but used very high dosages back in the day.

 

[Dr JIM]

Tren is definitely hepatoxic to some extent

!

I've seen perhaps one or maybe two cases studies in which Tren
was ASSUMED responsible for hepatic toxicity. And neither controlled or screened for the use of other KNOWN hepatotoxic agents.

So if you have scientific evidence to support your comment on "Tren toxicity" I'd like to see it.