Yellow Sclera on Tren

[LordSamuilo]

I've seen perhaps one or maybe two cases studies in which Tren
was ASSUMED responsible for hepatic toxicity. And neither controlled or screened for the use of other KNOWN hepatotoxic agents.

So if you have scientific evidence to support your comment on "Tren toxicity" I'd like to see it.

No , sry for my choice of words , saying it was "definitely hepatoxic" was disingenuous .. Though, it doesn't particularly change my opinion that he should forego all AAS , not just tren , until he gets blood work and a cleared bill of health from his own doctor ...

 

[Dr JIM]

he should forego all AAS , not just tren .......,

until he gets blood work and a cleared bill of health from his own doctor ...

Oh and on this we both agree but with one proviso,

In this instance it's matters not what is revealed thru labs, bc for some the risk of AAS far exceed the "benefit".

 

[LordSamuilo]

In this instance it's matters not what is revealed thru labs, bc for some the risk of AAS far exceed the "benefit".

Point taken and agreed ! id say in many instances , but in this one in particular there isn't even an argument to be made for his continued AAS use ... with that said though , I think most people who would make a brash decision like this tend to be chronic repeat offenders lol

 

[Kgkle]

Hi guys,
I am in the 8th week of my Tren Ace cycle. Started with pcom Tren Ace and was very disappointed. Three weeks ago I changed the source and I was a bit more content with the results.
I am running 700mg Tren Ace 500mg Test E per week.

Recently I discovered that the white in my eyes is turning slightly yellow. Additionally my skin started aching and my piss is always yellow/brownish. I also for a few weeks now really struggle to eat alot of food and my digestion seems to not be working properly as in I have to take a shit like every 2-3 days and my skin is kind of dry.
Also I am like always tired. I used to be ok on 6 hours of sleep but now I sleep like 12 hours and still feel like shit when waking up.
Is this the tren? I am on no orals, only used some T3 which I also recently dropped. What is weird however, is the fact that I didn't really experience any of the other typical tren sides like insomnia or night sweats. The results were ok nothing too great. TBH I had better results from 4 weeks of Sdrol. Will dropping the tren and just running some Test E and NPP work?

Cut out your tren and all other juice except test low ish dose. You can kill your self otherwise get tests done too.

Yeah it's the tren bro how much water are you drinking? You will always experience some kind of liver "problems" with tren but water will help a tone try a gallon a day same goes for orals. Done mess with liver protectors just lots of water and I find being more active really helps too.

 

[_Prometheus]

Mill thistle and NAC every single day to help your liver

 

[janoshik]

I've seen perhaps one or maybe two cases studies in which Tren
was ASSUMED responsible for hepatic toxicity. And neither controlled or screened for the use of other KNOWN hepatotoxic agents.

So if you have scientific evidence to support your comment on "Tren toxicity" I'd like to see it.

Blood tests of Mr. Buck.

 

[Savagesteve]

Mill thistle and NAC every single day to help your liver

Water trumps any of that any day. Save your money and just drink the high quality h2o

 

[TRT]

Water trumps any of that any day. Save your money and just drink the high quality h2o

I wouldn't be worried about money at a time like this.
"Quality" H2O? What would be an example of mid-grade? I had some premium shit one time and I'll be damned if that wasn't the best water I ever had... Lol

I'm just busting your balls. But yes if that hadn't been mentioned, water and more water. People don't realize that when it comes to orals and harsh stuff like that damage usually comes from not enough water. Happens to big time bodybuilders. My parents liver and kidneys were perfect and they abused AAS and coke for a long ass time. I would know. I was curious and look at the autopsy reports. Take that for what it's worth, really.

 

[Savagesteve]

I wouldn't be worried about money at a time like this.
"Quality" H2O? What would be an example of mid-grade? I had some premium shit one time and I'll be damned if that wasn't the best water I ever had... Lol

I'm just busting your balls. But yes if that hadn't been mentioned, water and more water. People don't realize that when it comes to orals and harsh stuff like that damage usually comes from not enough water. Happens to big time bodybuilders. My parents liver and kidneys were perfect and they abused AAS and coke for a long ass time. I would know. I was curious and look at the autopsy reports. Take that for what it's worth, really.

Ever seen the movie waterboy? That's what I was referring to with "high quality h2o" lol. I can understand about hydration as well as I always have a hard time consuming enough water although I have been doing better since I changed job roles within my company.

 

[TRT]

Ever seen the movie waterboy? That's what I was referring to with "high quality h2o" lol. I can understand about hydration as well as I always have a hard time consuming enough water although I have been doing better since I changed job roles within my company.

Oh, haha. I try to drink as much as I can. I can usually drink at least 3/4 of a gallon but no more then 1 1/2. If I sweating the forget it. I break a gallon like a twig.

 

[Kgkle]

If it's hot out and I'm working I can probably drink 2 gallons a day no problem I actually have problems with cramming because of how much water I drink if I don't take enough salts

 

[Jeffg353]

I wouldn't be worried about money at a time like this.
"Quality" H2O?

I've got pharm grade H2O for sale. Made in a GMP facility under the strictest sanitary conditions...straight from my toilet don't worry I flush twice b4 bottling. Guaranteed to give you CHOLERA! Another benefit after all the shitting and vomiting you'll loose weight. Only $10,000 a gallon. Bulk pricing available. Limited supply so act fast. LOL

 

[Jeffg353]

But seriously was looking into the other thread about a high bilirubin level and a few of the symptoms is jaundice and dark colored urine. I hope everything is ok and keep us posted as to how things turn out.

 

[penche]

I've checked my liver several times on component th Tren and was always within range. Recently 4 days ago I spent $180 and purchased the full male hormone panel to see how Anadrol and Tren are affecting my liver and more.

OP. You should get your blood work pulled. I have a friend with semi high liver values, ast/alt 70's-80's. Once he starts Tren they shoot to 200~300 range. I'd get your health looked at by a doctor

 

[Ophydian]

Maybe the fact that I recently was fasting during ramadan added to the damage? I still drank at
least 4 liters a day though.

Wait, you're fasting for Ramadan in the middle of a tren cycle and you're disappointed with the gains you've made? I assume fasting would have something to do with that along with taking anabolic's and fasting I wouldn't be surprised if you are seeing additional uncommon side effects.

 

[MrFatso]

Thanks for the tips. I will keep you guys updated. Made an appointment for next week tuesday with my doc.
Drinking 5-6 liters a day right now. Dropped everything except for test e and some adex.

Wait, you're fasting for Ramadan in the middle of a tren cycle and you're disappointed with the gains you've made? I assume fasting would have something to do with that along with taking anabolic's and fasting I wouldn't be surprised if you are seeing additional uncommon side effects.

I am cutting anyways. Was despite of the fact that I was fasting eating 2300kcal with at least 200grams of protein per day. But I agree that the fact that I was dehydrated during the day probably aggrevated the damage.

 

[Jaydilla]

Thanks for the tips. I will keep you guys updated. Made an appointment for next week tuesday with my doc.
Drinking 5-6 liters a day right now. Dropped everything except for test e and some adex.

I am cutting anyways. Was despite of the fact that I was fasting eating 2300kcal with at least 200grams of protein per day. But I agree that the fact that I was dehydrated during the day probably aggrevated the damage.

So you didn't even drink water during daytime???

 

[MrFatso]

So you didn't even drink water during daytime???

Exactly. I always had from 10pm - 3am to eat and drink.

 

[Jaydilla]

Exactly. I always had from 10pm - 3am to eat and drink.

I thought you were still allowed to drink water. Man you definitely can't cycle if your fasting is that strict. Horrible for your organs on cycle to be that deprived of fluid. Especially since tren makes you sweat

 

[Ophydian]

Also you can only consume a certian amount of protein at any given time. That number being defined by a number of different variables from muscle mass, age and activity level. In your 5 hour window to consume protein I would bet the 200g you consume half is not being converted into amino acids. I think you would had been better of to a 4 week Anavar cycle during this time IMO.