What dose it take to be a competive bodybuilder these days.

[shredded]

@shredded considering you say you have stand on stage with a natural physique and rocked it. What do you think is achievable beyond that point with the help of anabolics and peptides? In other words, what stands out in a physique of anabolics vs natural in terms of total body composition? Besides the extra weight. Atleast easily in the eye?

Good question anything is achievable if you throw enough resources at it and are willing to risk your health in the process, you may not be in the Olympia top 10 but boy will you build a huge physique. What stands out for me when comparing and natural to enhanced athletes with regard to body building is the stomach distension. Natural guys don't have the huge need to consume massive amounts of food to fuel all the chemical processes going on inside there body thus there stomach remain tighter, also the lack of drugs has not been able to promote growth of the intestines which also makes for a tighter waist line.

Geared guys also tend to be grainy and hard in appearance while possessing some amazing vascularity.

 

[shredded]

Have to chim in here and say both shredded and ogh are in amazing condition if they were to say they were in the early 20s never mind any older, I tip my hat to both of you

Thanks for your kind words and welcome aboard.

 

[conquistador]

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[conquistador]

This question has puzzled me for quite some time...The title of the thread is "what dose it takes to be a competitive bodybuilder these days," but I want to know what dose did it take to be a competitive bodybuilder BACK IN THE DAYS...mid 70s, early 80s. I have other questions but I don't wanna plague you for the mean time. Thanks.

 

[conquistador]

hahaha My bad, "dose" was a misspelling in the title, right word was "does."

 

[dper726]

@shredded What is a bigger game changer in competitive bodybuilding? Higher anabolic dosages or introducing peptides particularly insulin?

 

[tileguy123]

def subbed

 

[shredded]

This question has puzzled me for quite some time...The title of the thread is "what dose it takes to be a competitive bodybuilder these days," but I want to know what dose did it take to be a competitive bodybuilder BACK IN THE DAYS...mid 70s, early 80s. I have other questions but I don't wanna plague you for the mean time. Thanks.

My mistake mate spelling was never a strong point, i'll see if I can re edit it correctly. In the 70/80's it was mostly gear in my opinion. Not a lot of GH around at this time and I don't think Tren had hit the scene either. Insulin would have been none existent for the purpose of bodybuilding expect for maybe a few who were pushing the boundary's but I would imagine this to be late 80's.

So we had guys with good genetics and nice symmetry who responded really well to anabolics and this put them way ahead of the rest

 

[shredded]

@shredded What is a bigger game changer in competitive bodybuilding? Higher anabolic dosages or introducing peptides particularly insulin?

I would have to say the synergy between GH, thyroid and insulin combined. Dorian was probably the first example of this as the mass monsters began to appear. Introducing high dosages of gear without the above will infact take you backwards as your body simply can not use it.

The ability for Gh to convert into IGF then the IGF splitting and multiplying muscle fibres thus creating more receptor's or satellite cells was really a game changer.

 

[BIGMESC]

@shredded Thank you for this very informative thread, Myself and others are finding it very interesting.

There are unfortunately a few on this site that may read this thread and think that is what they are going to do.

Disclaimer: If you do not hold a pro card or are close to getting one, do not try or even think about mixing GH, thyroid and insulin. EVER

 

[BIGMESC]

^^^ Public service announcement by "Mother Hen"

 

[shredded]

@shredded Thank you for this very informative thread, Myself and others are finding it very interesting.

There are unfortunately a few on this site that may read this thread and think that is what they are going to do.

Disclaimer: If you do not hold a pro card or are close to getting one, do not try or even think about mixing GH, thyroid and insulin. EVER

OMG yes took the words out of my mouth. Its my personal belief that if you cant win a regional show natural then the gear is not for you.

I would never recommend anyone use insulin, I hate it, done wrong its a disaster.

With your words in mind we shall not publish dosages of any kind and all this is for informational purposes only.

Thank you.

 

[Oregonstrong]

@shredded- Great thread so far, very informative.

What type of training program do you use? Do you use the typical bodybuilding split where you train every body part only one time per week or some other type of split and what is your opinion on the optimal split strictly focused on size?
Thanks
Oregonstrong

 

[shredded]

@shredded- Great thread so far, very informative.

What type of training program do you use? Do you use the typical bodybuilding split where you train every body part only one time per week or some other type of split and what is your opinion on the optimal split strictly focused on size?
Thanks
Oregonstrong

I train one body part once a week, so for example I will train arms every Monday, the key points for me are intensity and recovery. Typically it will look like this, Monday arms, Tuesday shoulders and traps, Wednesday abs, lower back and calf's, Thursday hamstrings and quads, Friday back, Saturday chest, Sunday rest day. When trying to gain size recovery becomes soo important, no use heading to the gym when you not fully recovered from the last time you trained that muscle group.

 

[Oregongearhead]

I train one body part once a week, so for example I will train arms every Monday, the key points for me are intensity and recovery. Typically it will look like this, Monday arms, Tuesday shoulders and traps, Wednesday abs, lower back and calf's, Thursday hamstrings and quads, Friday back, Saturday chest, Sunday rest day. When trying to gain size recovery becomes soo important, no use heading to the gym when you not fully recovered from the last time you trained that muscle group.

Hi Shredded- I train a muscle group every 4 days . You dont think a muscle is fully recovered in 96 hours ?? ~Ogh

 

[tileguy123]

Man 6 days a week is dedication.. i mean i do lift a little bit at home on the weekends. but i can tell how that 6 day split is worked out, he isnt playing around..

 

[shredded]

Hi Shredded- I train a muscle group every 4 days . You dont think a muscle is fully recovered in 96 hours ?? ~Ogh

I can only speak for myself when saying for me training one muscle group every 4 days would lead me into over training, remember its not just the muscles that need recovery its also the central nervous system that needs a rest, most pro's I know only train each body part once every 9 days, now there is something you wont read in the magazine's.

 

[tileguy123]

have you ever battled the notorious golfers elbow or tennis elbow, medial epcondishithole? any insight or moral support will help lol ...

 

[Oregongearhead]

I can only speak for myself when saying for me training one muscle group every 4 days would lead me into over training, remember its not just the muscles that need recovery its also the central nervous system that needs a rest, most pro's I know only train each body part once every 9 days, now there is something you wont read in the magazine's.

Hi Shredded- Ive seen alot guys (pro's)that feel the same way , once a week per muscle group is fine . Clarence Bass (Ripped) said he only hits a group every 8 or 9 days. The problem is I like to work-out every day , or close to it . ~Ogh

 

[shredded]

have you ever battled the notorious golfers elbow or tennis elbow, medial epcondishithole? any insight or moral support will help lol ...

Ive had some tendonitis in my elbow and I have a bursitis's in my left shoulder, the bursitis in my shoulder is the worst its constantly there, the only way to fix it is rest along with some physio, well im doing the physio but just can't afford time off now for it to heal so what I do is train around it, buy this I mean finding a movement which still stimulates my shoulders into growth but doesn't cause any more harm or pain, even if its only quarter reps or something like that I find a way to train around it. Also another reason not to go balls to the wall heavy in my training. Anti inflammatorys can also help but I try and limit there use.