DEA Approves Trial of MDMA

[A-a-Ron]

Oh crap, didn't know about the situation there. It looks like just another case like when people call every fucking strain of weed "dutch", at least here in Europe where dutch are renowned for growing best strains... it's the scene to blame then once again, Molly, funny enough even @wikipedia is a slang for MDMA, pity it has taken a turn for worse... I am sure you got some new RC mimicking MDMA, plenty of those everywhere now, for example check 5-MAPB, I believe it is still legal in the states and widely offered for MDMA, but is not. At least you have not requested Lucy, you would likely have hit a harder brick then, lol.

I didn't see you taking any hardcore anti-drug stance, so I'm not sure where that came from.

Yeah, the girl I was dating at the time had a 19 year old daughter. All her friends would say Molly was ecstasy or pure MDMA and it came in crystals. What is known as Molly today is in no way shape or form MDMA. It's like calling synthetic marijuana...marijuana. Molly is simply a designer drug sold as MDMA. Go to a club and buy some Molly...I assure you you will be disappointed.

 

[GymRat88]

MY FAVORITE MOVIE..FEAR AND LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS!

 

[MindlessWork]

Wouldn't MDMA at a lower dose be useful as a stimulant?

MDMA is ecstacy. Just a street name given to it. There are others though. Like Eve. Its like the difference between calling something meth and glass. Same drug intended. In the same way, molly is mdma crystals, and the tablets are crystals pressed. No difference in time of effect unless a different drug is in it also.

X is MDMA but with other junk mixed in

 

[Mayne]

Not sure, it's properties are 180 degrees from stimulants, actual MDMA is supposed to floor you not make you high and has always been like that for me. When pills are cut with other adulterants effects can differ. Anyway because it produces big amounts of euphoria I believe you can call that stimulating in a way... But because it has amphetamine in it's name doesn't make it similar necessarily. Another example could be DOX family, for example DOC, has nothing even close with amphetamine (street name speed) but has a formula of 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-chloroamphetamine. Phens in most cases have not many real similarities compared with trypts, but are still a group.

 

[A-a-Ron]

Not sure, it's properties are 180 degrees from stimulants, actual MDMA is supposed to floor you not make you high and has always been like that for me. When pills are cut with other adulterants effects can differ. Anyway because it produces big amounts of euphoria I believe you can call that stimulating in a way... But because it has amphetamine in it's name doesn't make it similar necessarily. Another example could be DOX family, for example DOC, has nothing even close with amphetamine (street name speed) but has a formula of 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-chloroamphetamine. Phens in most cases have not many real similarities compared with trypts, but are still a group.

I've had pure MDMA from the Netherlands before, and MDMA gives me an alertness in the fact that all my senses are enhanced...but not in a speedy way. It makes me just want to sit back on a fluffy couch and watch the world around me....while getting my duck sicked.

 

[A-a-Ron]

Now this shit I used to get in the 90's would immobilize me.

 

[biggerben69]

At the Paladium we used to get wafers. . Biscuits and those things were strong

Gorilla Biscuits..those were a bit different. New Yorkers called methaqualone "Gorilla Biscuits". Dancing on Quaaludes was big in NYC back in the day....but much different than what ravers were doing.

 

[dredd09]

Wouldn't MDMA at a lower dose be useful as a stimulant?


X is MDMA but with other junk mixed in

It doesn't have a stimulant or any property at less than the active "rolling" dose. And you can call it what you want, but mdma amd xtc are synonymous, regardless of what is actually sold.

 

[TheNeWkID]

Dredd? Have you ever ate rolls before??
Stimulant by definition
noun

1. a substance that raises levels of physiological or nervous activity in the body.
   
   It most certainly fits in that category. If you ever popped a pill you would know that sleeping ain't an option Holmes. It's only late into the peak of your high that shit goes trippy if they are good enough. Again im 34. The rolls I got in the 90s were real mdma. Not the fake shit in clubs these days. Dredd. You accused me of pseudo science pushing earlier and told me to research before posting. I posted numerous facts to prove your mouth wrong and you withdrew from the debate only to come in pages later correcting people again. how about you can. " call it whatever you want" but it's still made from tree roots!! Stop correcting people when you don't check into the facts yourself

 

[dredd09]

Yes. I've more than eaten them dipshit. I've been to prison for manufacture of the drug you took as a "candy raver" . So yeah, i know its a stimulant, dumbass , that wasn't the question. The question was whether smaller doses could be effective as a stimulant. Which i answered.

 

[dredd09]

Still on the roots thing, huh? Guess you ignored the other posts that show that sassafras itself containd safrole, throughout the plant. And that many others contain sass. Not only that but sass is old news in manufacture of mdma. Its substitutable, and with very common stuff. Read instead of trying to win a pointless argument. I've been to raves and rolled too. Guess what? After the roll i didnt come away with the slightest knowledge of how the beans i took were made. And neither did you, dude.

 

[dredd09]

Correcting people? No, correcting generalities that were in part , wholly untrue posted by you. There's nothing rare about mdma reagents . Period.

 

[Mayne]

Actually, wrong. MDMA is easy to sleep on/after, especially in high doses. For most experienced users it's a tell if their pills are clean or not, once you get home from a rave if you have trouble sleeping = adulterated (mostly with amphetamine) pills. I am not here to argue who got in prison for what etc, but MDMA is not a stimulant in the way cocaine or amphetamine is, hence why even on darknet markets never will you find MDMA in the stimulants category. HOWEVER it is extremely empathogenic (euphoric) which can lead to sensation of extreme sexuality or other similar "stimulations" but it is not a stimulant classed drug. Often newbies have to mix MDMA with actual stimulants because on doses high enough to achieve relative psychedelia you are turned upside down or into a goo...

 

[dredd09]

Not sure, it's properties are 180 degrees from stimulants, actual MDMA is supposed to floor you not make you high and has always been like that for me. When pills are cut with other adulterants effects can differ. Anyway because it produces big amounts of euphoria I believe you can call that stimulating in a way... But because it has amphetamine in it's name doesn't make it similar necessarily. Another example could be DOX family, for example DOC, has nothing even close with amphetamine (street name speed) but has a formula of 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-chloroamphetamine. Phens in most cases have not many real similarities compared with trypts, but are still a group.

3, 4, 5-trimethoxyphenethylamine, or mescaline , and it's analogues are also considered in the amphetamine class as well!

 

[GymRat88]

I use MDMA to get me ready for the gym...lol could you imagine that rolling at the gym

 

[dredd09]

How they make you feel makes no difference in the classification of said drugs. It's the chemistry behind them.

 

[dredd09]

Hugs at the gym would be awkward!

 

[dredd09]

Euphoria and empathy ARE not mutually exclusive. Coke makes you feel euphoric, but damn if i ever felt empathy for anyone but myself when i used it. That's why empathogen drugs are so rare, and friends, they are critical to research!

 

[dredd09]

I forgot to mention the brown camphor oil too! Which contains high levels of safrole. People regularly drink sassafrass tea. Safrole , supposedly naturally converts to MDA in small doses in the body.

 

[Mayne]

Haha right on, hug all the barbells (not people, those fuckers are sweaty)! Anyway for whoever asked whether you can use it as a stimulant in the essential way of what a stimulant is the choice is not optimal. MDMA has the features of a CNS stimulant where it increases BP and Heart Rate but it also exhibits sedating properties like dizziness and general lack of coordination especially in fine motor skills (have fun writing an essay on MDMA). With higher doses one becomes less and less clear headed hence why being called a stimulant in regard of effects is out of the question, but stimulation such as increased heart rate is still attributed to it's properties, in any case you would be better off using adderall as a stimulant instead of MDMA. My favorite use for it is close to what @A-a-Ron said above, laying on a couch and getting head or just enjoying general well being