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Mr. Deltoid
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Yes I'm a white man and I've been persecuted for it my whole life. You probably think I'm kidding but I'm very serious. I grew up in the south , my family is scottish and came here before the revolution one of my relatives is actually the youngest soldier to die in the revolutionary war in the battle of Kings Mountain North Carolina. I've been looked down on by progressive teachers who hated me just because they new my family was land owners in the south from way back. I've grown up being made to feel like a piece of shit for something I had nothing to do with. Let me tell you none of my family were racist they raised me that God created everyone equal and that racism was wrong and evil. I grew up around a lot of southern people between Florida and North Carolina and none of the southern whites I met were racist. But Ive had plenty of racism direct ed at me from blacks growing up in school. And as an adult I see the looks I get from some of the black community not all , I have some black friends I fight for in a heartbeat! So all of this white racism I think is grossly overexagerated! Yes there are white racists out there, for sure but I think there is far more whites that are disgusted by racism.
Wings_of_pain
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Yeah and that sucks I was just saying because it seems that people err on the side of "all white people being racist" when these white cops mow down black dudes but I think it's more a thing of institutional racism within the police department rather than the former.
Mr. Deltoid
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I'm sure that there's some institutionalized rracism in pockets around the world not just here. But I highly doubt it's anywhere near the levels the media and democrats would have us believe.
I have lived in Hawaii my whole life, when i was in school there were only 3 white kids my brother another kid and me. Trust me when i tell u racists come in ALL colors.
We were discriminated against on a daily basis and it wasn't subtle little comments it was in your face hatred. Not by everyone but by many and no one cared, not the teachers not the principle and the other students just looked away. The last day of school was called kill a haole day and we were encouraged to stay home by administration.
Thankfully that was in the past and everybody has moved on. I honestly harbor no ill will because to be honest it made me a very strong and determined person not to mention a tough motherfucker!!!
My point being the human is indeed a flawed animal and there are assholes in all races but the way i see it we are all the same and the vast majority of people are good human beings.
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We were discriminated against on a daily basis and it wasn't subtle little comments it was in your face hatred. Not by everyone but by many and no one cared, not the teachers not the principle and the other students just looked away. The last day of school was called kill a haole day and we were encouraged to stay home by administration.
Thankfully that was in the past and everybody has moved on. I honestly harbor no ill will because to be honest it made me a very strong and determined person not to mention a tough motherfucker!!!
My point being the human is indeed a flawed animal and there are assholes in all races but the way i see it we are all the same and the vast majority of people are good human beings.
My 2c!!!!!
Mr. Deltoid
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I'm sorry to hear what you had to go through brother , but it doesn't supprise me in the least. The really sick part of your story is that children have to be taught that kind of hatred and the adults who teach little children to hate are some sick individuals. And yes humans are flawed that's why we need a system of government like the republic of the USA , the Constitution and Bill of Rights works to save us from tyrannical governments like the one we have now. The cops being flawed creatures and having no constraints put on them because the war on drugs has stripped away all our protection in the constitution and the bill of rights. Now we have in place the patriot act and it's stripped more of our protection from Jack booted government thugs. A wise man once said a man who will trade his freedom for his safety deserves neither. Well we're here fellas we've got no one to blame but ourselves we need to wake people up first and foremost no democrat should win any office! And we need to vote for small government constitutional republicans or libertarians!
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You really have a narrow minded view on the world. If you think anything would be better under this premise you are sorely disillusioned. Please stop with the political rhetoric in this thread. Most of us realize it is not a political thing creating these situations.
Mr. Deltoid
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Really? The police are agents of the government if we can educate and wake up our neighbors and change the people in control we can change the way the police interact with the citizens. I know what a long shot this is that's why me and my family have been prepping for years because I'm afraid it's gonna get really bad before it gets any better. But not equating government and politics in a police state thread that is narrow minded. I respect your opinion Headymuscle but I think your wrong on this and I'll just agree to disagree my friend.
License to Kill
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/license-to-kill.html
As empires collapse, they turn inward, and subject their own populations to the same ill treatment to which they subjected others. Here, America is unexceptional: the number of Americans being murdered by their own police, with minimal repercussions for those doing the killing, is quite stunning. When Americans wonder who their enemy really is, they need look no further.
But that is only the beginning: the precedent has already been set for deploying US troops on US soil. As law and order break down in more and more places, we will see more and more US troops on the streets of cities in the US, spreading death and destruction just like they did in Iraq or in Afghanistan. The last license to kill to be revoked will be the license to kill ourselves.
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/license-to-kill.html
As empires collapse, they turn inward, and subject their own populations to the same ill treatment to which they subjected others. Here, America is unexceptional: the number of Americans being murdered by their own police, with minimal repercussions for those doing the killing, is quite stunning. When Americans wonder who their enemy really is, they need look no further.
But that is only the beginning: the precedent has already been set for deploying US troops on US soil. As law and order break down in more and more places, we will see more and more US troops on the streets of cities in the US, spreading death and destruction just like they did in Iraq or in Afghanistan. The last license to kill to be revoked will be the license to kill ourselves.
Very good write up.
Thank you Dr. Scally.
Mr Deltoid does have a point and rejecting the role that politics has played in creating this mess is a mistake. Every major inner city in the US is controlled by the Democratic Party - from the school boards to the school districts to the city councils to the police - and they have been for generations. If you just want to *talk* about the problem of police violence, then you can ignore that fact. But if you want to find solutions, you're going to have to address that fact.
Most certainly will be viewed as rabid left wing rant. But I do hope that a lot of people will start trying to take a more realistic and objective view of what is going on with "their" government (country). To what end ? I don't know. This massive unbelievably powerful structure of an unknown size is not going to be reigned in or controlled or changed by some "politician" who said all the right words and and made all the right and wonderful promises to have himself "voted" into "power". Power to do what? Lower your taxes a little? Give you a little better medical care? cheaper gas sometimes, a little boost in the job market once and a while? crumbs.... It has become a monster, a Frankenstein, with a mind of it's own and an unalterable course.
Listen,
I heard the same rhetoric from Dems during the Bush/Cheney administration and I was appalled by it. If you do some research, I am sure the stats are not different for one administration to the next and most levels you guys post and talk about.
I am sorry, I don't buy there is separate parties any more. I don't think there has been in a very long time. When opposing politicians have holdings in the same corporations it means they have the same interest. And that interest is not the American Public. For example, Madeleine Albright, James Baker and HW Bush have holdings in northrop grumman. You cannot tell me these people are looking out for us when their collective bottom line is at stake.
I don't buy it.
http://www.nationofchange.org/defense-contractors-and-foreign-governments-funding-pundits-and-think-tanks-1411314713
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2003/03/31/3156/clinton-top-100-where-are-they-now
Then again, most states are ran by Republican Governors. Makes no difference.
If you CBS and Deltoid would review your posts and listen to what you are saying, maybe you would see your posts are very biased and one sided. Most others that post on this thread are pretty open.
I don't think there is one group to point a finger at. Pointing a finger at one thing creates a very myopic view, imho of course. And may lead to blindness.
I heard the same rhetoric from Dems during the Bush/Cheney administration and I was appalled by it. If you do some research, I am sure the stats are not different for one administration to the next and most levels you guys post and talk about.
I am sorry, I don't buy there is separate parties any more. I don't think there has been in a very long time. When opposing politicians have holdings in the same corporations it means they have the same interest. And that interest is not the American Public. For example, Madeleine Albright, James Baker and HW Bush have holdings in northrop grumman. You cannot tell me these people are looking out for us when their collective bottom line is at stake.
I don't buy it.
http://www.nationofchange.org/defense-contractors-and-foreign-governments-funding-pundits-and-think-tanks-1411314713
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2003/03/31/3156/clinton-top-100-where-are-they-now
Then again, most states are ran by Republican Governors. Makes no difference.
If you CBS and Deltoid would review your posts and listen to what you are saying, maybe you would see your posts are very biased and one sided. Most others that post on this thread are pretty open.
I don't think there is one group to point a finger at. Pointing a finger at one thing creates a very myopic view, imho of course. And may lead to blindness.
unalterable corpse.
Perhaps you could show me where my posts are "very biased and one-sided" with regard to the topic of this thread.
Most "others in this thread" are saying the cops are evil but offer NO solutions.
So you admit you have no solution, nor are you interested in looking for one. Kawilt's solution is the violent overthrow of the US government and replacing it with a Marxist dictatorship. Is that what you favor, as well?
Overthrow of the u.s. government and replace it with a MARXIST REGIME??? CBS....What in the hell have you been smoking. Do you not pay attention. When have I ever said that? Never!
You know very well that I have never ever that, or would advocate that. Your just pissed off because I made a total friggin liar out of that ridiculous clown you posted slobbering all over himself over Israel.
You know very well that I have never ever that, or would advocate that. Your just pissed off because I made a total friggin liar out of that ridiculous clown you posted slobbering all over himself over Israel.
First you're an anti-Semite and now you're a Marxist. Next you'll probably be an alien from Jupiter maybe and those scare me
what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.
Thomas Jefferson.
You had better start doing something CBS except whining!!!
Thomas Jefferson.
You had better start doing something CBS except whining!!!
You mean the one you were going to refute line by line but NEVER did? Yeah, you REALLY made a liar out of him
LMFAO
Mr. Deltoid
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The Bushes are Progressives no better than any democrats. The republican establishment is progressive and has to go you are right these are two sides of the same coin. I have never advocated going out and blindly voting republican. There are good forces in the republican party right now and they need to be supported. Ted Cruise , Trey Goudy , Ron Paul , Rand Paul and many more. We have to support these people and educate our neighbors , family and friends. It's probably to big a challenge at this point but if we could take over the republican party and get rid of the progressive scumbags maybe we could make a difference. The Tea Party is a grassroots force for the Constitution and for the good of the country and needs to be supported and it needs to grow. The media and the democrats and the progressive republicans are all afraid of the Tea Party that's why they constantly make up lies about it and it's members.
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