Customer Reviews and Company Representatives

[pumpingiron22]

Yeah I could of been decent but it basically moderated. You not allowed to make a simple comment with out being ridiculed and called a trader and have a agenda I thought the purpose was to share info. But obviously not. There needs to be guidance. Or it needs to be took down for awhile.
In all due respect I know it was to be a positive and useful. But unfortunately I feel some have took it in to there own hands to moderate it. Which I feel was not you inteion or vision. But members are scared to make a comment I. Fear they will get called out and fingered pointed.things that they are not.
Sincerely PI

 

[Millard]

Go take a look at what cbs is doing to PI. What is that called? Is he free to leave a review. Just asking , I am going to keep it clean.

Of course he is. Do you see his review? Did it disappear? Has it been deleted? Has @pumpingiron22 been banned? What don't you understand?

It's called uncensored free speech. MESO-Rx has not restricted @pumpingiron22's freedom to post his review. MESO-Rx has not restricted @CensoredBoardsSuck freedom to criticize the review. It's the very definition of transparency. This is why your accusations are blatantly false.

 

[Big_paul]

Of course he is. Do you see his review? Did it disappear? Has it been deleted? Has @pumpingiron22 been banned? What don't you understand?

It's called uncensored free speech. MESO-Rx has not restricted @pumpingiron22's freedom to post his review. MESO-Rx has not restricted @CensoredBoardsSuck freedom to criticize the review. It's the very definition of transparency. This is why your accusations are blatantly false.

I see threats, insults and intimidation. It is designed to silence members. We will never agree on this . Thats okay.

 

[pumpingiron22]

Opinion and freedom of speech is one thing bullying and harassment is a whole different story. It hurts. But also harassment and bullying tactics also restrict people freedom of speech by making comments due to fear.
I will be the bigger man and drop the argument and leave it alone in that thread. Once again. Very sad

 

[Big_paul]

I learned my lesson though. I got in the gutter and trash talked. That was a huge mistake. I will not do it again.

Thanks for letting me come back though Millard There are a lot of good things here as well. Much more positive than negative. Anaboliclab.com it a plus. I support you 100% there.

 

[Big_paul]

Early morning workout. Off to the gym. I'll check back in latter.

 

[pumpingiron22]

Also I will not act like I'm a victim as I played in to the name calling. Actually I'm disappointed that I fell into that. You won't see me doing that any more.
Thank you for your time.

 

[Millard]

Yeah I could of been decent but it basically moderated. You not allowed to make a simple comment with out being ridiculed and called a trader and have a agenda I thought the purpose was to share info. But obviously not. There needs to be guidance. Or it needs to be took down for awhile.
In all due respect I know it was to be a positive and useful. But unfortunately I feel some have took it in to there own hands to moderate it. Which I feel was not you inteion or vision. But members are scared to make a comment I. Fear they will get called out and fingered pointed.things that they are not.
Sincerely PI

Freedom of speech isn't for the fearful and easily intimidated.

It is not solely about "information sharing". It is about supporting and substantiating the information you share.

Everyone needs to be prepared to defend the "information" they post.

 

[Millard]

Opinion and freedom of speech is one thing bullying and harassment is a whole different story. It hurts. But also harassment and bullying tactics also restrict people freedom of speech by making comments due to fear.
I will be the bigger man and drop the argument and leave it alone in that thread. Once again. Very sad

Also I will not act like I'm a victim as I played in to the name calling. Actually I'm disappointed that I fell into that. You won't see me doing that any more.
Thank you for your time.

The exchange referenced by you and @Big_paul is hardly an example of bullying and harrassment. It is called a disagreement. And it is an issue highly relevant to the goals of the forum. I'd like to see these disagreements lead to productive debates where each party presents and defends their respective case.

I don't understand why anyone feels there is a need to avoid conflict and run away from disagreements. I see this as the bigger problem. It is a cop out to avoid defending one's position.

Please revisit the original dispute and tell me that you don't see legitimate issues worthy of discussion:

So far I have purchased 3 times from marvel and all has been up to par. Ordering easy on time. And packaged well
I have no bloods. But I've been running most of there gear for the past two months. And every things has run smoothly with results. There orals taste like shit but it obviously cut with alcohol and I do not drink so yuk. I'm not saying there good to go every member should do there own research and not just go by what I say . And I know this is not a source board. But this point of this thread is to leave a review goods or bad as the rules say in the thread. I know some will come and bash away I really don't care.

And your "review" is essentially the same thing you said on Nov 10: You have no blood work or any other objective evidence, just an transparent attempt to open Meso's door to this shady rep and startup source who has NO idea what he's selling because his rep has already admitted they've never tested their product.

 

[MindlessWork]

I for one like how this forum is run and to me the best way to run it. When there is a place where people can express opinions that others may not agree with and disputes and arguments are settled amicably, people will flock to it.

Thanks Millard for making Meso a great place and a valuable resource for us lifters.

 

[manafest]

Everyones free speech and opinions matter even if they are so completely wrong it makes you cringe with laughter are steam with anger. Opinions of others can make you see your own madness and sometimes as well as how right you are in thinking certain ways.

 

[rpbb]

I see nothing wrong whatsoever with cbs's comments. It's because of the basic questioning of everything here that people have a chance to get good gear. the gtg bro, gear is fire, i really like the source because he's a great guy, i can really feel it, blah blah, blah reviews are useless, and lead to people getting scammed. you can do all that all you want at the paid source boards, however, you WILL be scammed eventually.

 

[MindlessWork]

It's the community that keeps sources on their toes, as none of their lies will fly here.

 

[Big_paul]

Yeah I could of been decent but it basically moderated. You not allowed to make a simple comment with out being ridiculed and called a trader and have a agenda I thought the purpose was to share info. But obviously not. There needs to be guidance. Or it needs to be took down for awhile.
In all due respect I know it was to be a positive and useful. But unfortunately I feel some have took it in to there own hands to moderate it. Which I feel was not you inteion or vision. But members are scared to make a comment I. Fear they will get called out and fingered pointed.things that they are not.
Sincerely PI

So true.

Now one thing I would like to through out there. Cbs said he can smell blood in the water, and nothing can save him. He is speaking of PI22. Now is that a death threat? No of coarse not. It's a figure of speech. Now If someone says I'd like to put a pill in your head. Is that a death threat? No of coarse I isn't. That is also a figure of speech. Kinda hard to kill someone online. Now if someone says I'm going to kill you, that is a death threat. I don't want anyone to misconstrue cbs"s post about PI22 as a death threat. Although I don't like him, I don't want him to be banned.

 

[Big_paul]

It's the community that keeps sources on their toes, as none of their lies will fly here.

So true. We all have to think for ourselves. I will make up my own mind, and I trust others here to be adults and do the same. Now PI22 said very clearly that he did not want anyone to take his word for anything about said source, Yet he was verbally threatened with a figure of speech. I bet that hurt.

 

[Big_paul]

I see nothing wrong whatsoever with cbs's comments. It's because of the basic questioning of everything here that people have a chance to get good gear. the gtg bro, gear is fire, i really like the source because he's a great guy, i can really feel it, blah blah, blah reviews are useless, and lead to people getting scammed. you can do all that all you want at the paid source boards, however, you WILL be scammed eventually.

Of coarse you don't. I think he misunderstood what PI22 was saying. So that may be why he got so testy. There have been sources come here and I new by the end of the first sentence who it was. I sound the alarm.

I know cbs has our best interest at heart. That is why he has never had a good thing to say about any source. Now we find out that he doesn't train or use steroids. He's just that kinda guy. Looking out for the common man.

 

[Big_paul]

Everyones free speech and opinions matter even if they are so completely wrong it makes you cringe with laughter are steam with anger. Opinions of others can make you see your own madness and sometimes as well as how right you are in thinking certain ways.

Right on brother. I think anyone should feel free to post anything. We can see through the shills. Even if it makes you cringe. I'm all about free speech, don't get me wrong.

 

[Big_paul]

I for one like how this forum is run and to me the best way to run it. When there is a place where people can express opinions that others may not agree with and disputes and arguments are settled amicably, people will flock to it.

Thanks Millard for making Meso a great place and a valuable resource for us lifters.

God D** brother, you are wise beyond your years. Looking good by the way. Bringing those arms up. Keep it up, and you may make me envious

 

[manafest]

Then his opinions are to be read as such as someone whos dosent work out and goes into commercial gyms to leave comments in the What can be done better box. >: )

 

[Big_paul]

The exchange referenced by you and @Big_paul is hardly an example of bullying and harrassment. It is called a disagreement. And it is an issue highly relevant to the goals of the forum. I'd like to see these disagreements lead to productive debates where each party presents and defends their respective case.

I don't understand why anyone feels there is a need to avoid conflict and run away from disagreements. I see this as the bigger problem. It is a cop out to avoid defending one's position.

Please revisit the original dispute and tell me that you don't see legitimate issues worthy of discussion:

Millard just when I say we may never agree on this you through this post out and I agree.