Shakes instead of foods... (Read)

My opinion is that it doesn't make a jot of difference unless you are trying to restrict cals... then real food wins hands down on satiety alone.
 
I just feel missing the micronutrients is something I wouldn't want to sacrifice.

Some protein powders come with a good amount of nutrients or you could buy a cheap multi to help fill in gaps. It's also not the only thing you'd be eating so you could just get a good amount of veggies and fruits in to help with micros
 
I completely disagree as it is merely impossible you're getting the same results with 100g of protein from a *powder* -

@Smokey McPot you missed the point brother !

Do you have any reason to believe this other than just stating your opinion that its impossible? Not hating just would like to have a healthy debate. I get plenty of micros from the other parts of my diet and supplementation. And I use ON whey. Gold standard or pro complex which has some of the best (if not the very best? Lab results) in terms of claimed nutrition
 
Do you have any reason to believe this other than just stating your opinion that its impossible? Not hating just would like to have a healthy debate. I get plenty of micros from the other parts of my diet and supplementation. And I use ON whey. Gold standard or pro complex which has some of the best (if not the very best? Lab results) in terms of claimed nutrition
I do. As he stated he drinks the protein shakes for the macronutrients he is still missing micronutrients. He never once commented about vitamins or other fruits or veggies to make up for the lack of micronutrients. That is where my argument stands on that. No need to say not hating, you had an opinion and argument. That's what this place is for.
ON is a great brand. I prefer machine whey.
 
I'm curious as to where everyone stands on this. I am trying to shy from the bro-science.. But I can't find anything telling me I'm wrong. I would love for some others to chime in.

We all know.. There's a major different in getting macronutrients and micronutrients and this is why food is king. Well we also know eating constantly can be hard work. Right?

Say this. (Random numbers)

Gentleman A consumes : ( in a shake )

6 egg whites
1 cup of coconut milk
2 tbsp of Nutella
1 banana
2 tbsp of honey
Making a total of 1000 calories 90g protein 80g fat 90g carbs ... (Again made up numbers)

Gentleman B consumes : ( throughout meals )

The same 1000 calories 90g protein 80g fat 90g carbs.. We all know that's hard to eat in one sitting at times. But as a drink? Easier.

To make it clear. I stand as they both would bring. Same outcome. I've just heard others differ overtime.

Comments?
I have 2 drinks a day. My last one is 2 hours before I go to sleep. I have a 350 calorie drink. 60 grams of protein with 2 tbs of natural peanut butter. I use Cassiene
I'm curious as to where everyone stands on this. I am trying to shy from the bro-science.. But I can't find anything telling me I'm wrong. I would love for some others to chime in.

We all know.. There's a major different in getting macronutrients and micronutrients and this is why food is king. Well we also know eating constantly can be hard work. Right?

Say this. (Random numbers)

Gentleman A consumes : ( in a shake )

6 egg whites
1 cup of coconut milk
2 tbsp of Nutella
1 banana
2 tbsp of honey
Making a total of 1000 calories 90g protein 80g fat 90g carbs ... (Again made up numbers)

Gentleman B consumes : ( throughout meals )

The same 1000 calories 90g protein 80g fat 90g carbs.. We all know that's hard to eat in one sitting at times. But as a drink? Easier.

To make it clear. I stand as they both would bring. Same outcome. I've just heard others differ overtime.

Comments?[/QUOT
I'm curious as to where everyone stands on this. I am trying to shy from the bro-science.. But I can't find anything telling me I'm wrong. I would love for some others to chime in.

We all know.. There's a major different in getting macronutrients and micronutrients and this is why food is king. Well we also know eating constantly can be hard work. Right?

Say this. (Random numbers)

Gentleman A consumes : ( in a shake )

6 egg whites
1 cup of coconut milk
2 tbsp of Nutella
1 banana
2 tbsp of honey
Making a total of 1000 calories 90g protein 80g fat 90g carbs ... (Again made up numbers)

Gentleman B consumes : ( throughout meals )

The same 1000 calories 90g protein 80g fat 90g carbs.. We all know that's hard to eat in one sitting at times. But as a drink? Easier.

To make it clear. I stand as they both would bring. Same outcome. I've just heard others differ overtime.

Comments?
I have a 350 calorie protein drink 2 hours before I go to bed. 60 grams of casein protein with 2 tbs of natural peanut butter. I have another drink post workout with 2 Rice Krispies marshmallow squares. Instant rejuvenation.
And I eat 5 meals a day as well. I cook for 3 days and refrigerate
 
Imo.... As long as your body is getting all the nutrients that it needs to grow, it doesn't matter if you drink or eat it.

For example, this morning I had a shake that consisted of 2 cups of egg whites, 1 scoop protein powder, and 1/2 cup ground up oatmeal. That's been my breakfast every morning while I'm on this cut.
 
Great thread and does get me thinking about how I drink them. Lately been drinking shakes as more of a meal replacement but still eating regular meals. Beats the food boredom!
 
I have 2 drinks a day. My last one is 2 hours before I go to sleep. I have a 350 calorie drink. 60 grams of protein with 2 tbs of natural peanut butter. I use Cassiene

Question about your protien drink when I plug in 2 scoops of Casien protien 2 tbsp of natural peanut butter and 1 cup of unsweetened almost milk I get 460calories and I doubt I could drink that with only 250ml of liquid so I'd say more like 2 cups of unsweetened almond milk so that's 500 calories. How you doing it with only 350 calories?
 
XXX of whatever macros is the same. The only difference would be absorption. Fiber content breaks down or slows the absorption, carbs from oatmeal aren't as bad as carbs from a snickers.

I use shakes to keep protein amounts up when the day didn't allow for real food. I think your body will respond better to real food most the times
 
Blending real foods in some ways is better then chewing it, because in liquid form it's easier to digest, so in a bulk enviroment, less bloat and easier digestion.

if the macro are the same, body composition will not change but satiety level will, how easy it will be to ingest it will change as well.

It's a month that I use a blender to make my breast chicken liquid, I can't stand eating breast chicken anymore, because without frying it a little in the pan, it become dry as fuck and you need really to chew an hour to eat 500gr of chicken. So I said fuck it and blend it with olive oil - yogurt sauce and a bit of chili plus 200-300ml of water. It become a nice soup and holy shit if It's easy to eat. 10-15 mins and I'm done :) Works like a charm
 
Lee Haney drank a ton of shakes. Worked for him... I know I read in 5/3/1 for powerlifting by wendler he said he got big by eating 4 decent meals and 4 carb/protein shakes after every meal.

I drink a giant shake every morning with food and whey and a powder shake right before bed... drinking raw egg whites out of the carton has been a game changer for me. Pasteurized and safe- $5 gets 100 g whole food protein in super easy.
 
Lee Haney drank a ton of shakes. Worked for him... I know I read in 5/3/1 for powerlifting by wendler he said he got big by eating 4 decent meals and 4 carb/protein shakes after every meal.

I drink a giant shake every morning with food and whey and a powder shake right before bed... drinking raw egg whites out of the carton has been a game changer for me. Pasteurized and safe- $5 gets 100 g whole food protein in super easy.

the taste is disgusting however for the raw egg whites :(
 
Lee Haney drank a ton of shakes. Worked for him... I know I read in 5/3/1 for powerlifting by wendler he said he got big by eating 4 decent meals and 4 carb/protein shakes after every meal.

I drink a giant shake every morning with food and whey and a powder shake right before bed... drinking raw egg whites out of the carton has been a game changer for me. Pasteurized and safe- $5 gets 100 g whole food protein in super easy.
Great to know and thanks for sharing. I myself sometimes add eggwhites and fiber to a a shake on those times when I can't eat a regular meal
 
Exactly what I do. 4 egg whites.. Dash of milk. Chocolate syrup
I'm not sure if you're aware, but make sure they're pasteurized. If you get it straight from the egg, there's an enzyme within the white that keeps the body from absorbing most of the nutrients. When pasteurized, the heat kills the enzyme and the body will take in all of the protein.
 

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