any of you folks know a legit dnp source

I personally don't understand why people are so scared of DNP just because the lethal dose is close to the usage dose. (I understand that I DO take more risks than most people btw).

Everyday when I drive to work, there is but a mere 2 feet between me and oncoming traffic. At all times you just stay aware and don't get in a head on collision. Everyday, so close to death, yet I get to work just fine everyday of my life.

If you are responsible enough, you can stay with a 200mg/day dose of DNP and never risk anything. Don't do stupid shit like up your dose cause you don't "feel" it.

It has like a 36hr half life I think, so that's where people go wrong. They up their dose WAAY too quick.

Drive carefully. YMMV.
 
didn't you say this ? so are you including yourself ?

Ad hominem attacks...the classic sign of a member not being capable of admitting defeat or simply not having the knowledge required to participate in the topic at hand. In your case, both. Good stuff.

I've used DNP successfully for years, have kept up to date with the published research on it, documented the anecdotal reports to create a better profile and continue to experiment further with it to this day. If that makes me a moron in your eyes, then cool bro ;)
 
Oh and by golly why is it "hard" to stay on a LOW END caloric deficit diet?

It's simple and it's called willpower that is encouraged bc of results. If you dont have the the former YOU WONT LOSE WEIGHT for any length of time.

It's the willpower to
- KNOW the caloric content of EVERYTHING YOU EAT
- exercise every day
- completely omit SOADS, BOXED SNACKS and ALL "FAST FOOD" in which the MAJORITY of calories are derived from fruits or veggies
- HAVE you ever looked at the amount of SUGAR and FAT in Yogurt these days, the stuff now borders on JUNK FOOD!
- ETC, ETC, ETC

Good luck BUT DNP, your heading down the same path EVERY obese or overweight fella
has taken on several occasions and THEY ALL FAIL EVENTUALLY and "gain back the weight they lost and then some". This is a evidence based FACT!!!
 
I'm including clen and t3 to achieve more results since 200mg dnp wont shed much body fat. I have used sibutramine in the beginning of this cycle. I noticed a reduction in appetite the 1st week only. mine was generic. maybe pharma grade is better.


Do not include clen with DNP!

T3 is fine at a moderate dose with DNP, no clen!
 
Do not include clen with DNP!

T3 is fine at a moderate dose with DNP, no clen!

Why? Can you give a specific reason other than "OMG!"

Let's promote facts and not fear mongering. If you have any specific facts as to why I would be very interested.
 
Why? Can you give a specific reason other than "OMG!"

Let's promote facts and not fear mongering. If you have any specific facts as to why I would be very interested.

I'm not promoting fear mongering at all.

I've used DNP 4 times and I laugh at the comments I see from people who haven't used it and think you will likely just fall over and die if you take it. Ignorance.

I've also used clen and I will NEVER use that shit again.

First, DNP it's extremely effective, far more effective than Clen. You'll see fat loss at 5-10x that of clen, so stacking them is just that much worse for your health for barely any more results. Clen is NOT a healthy drug and nor is DNP.

Second, clen in a moderate dose will actually raise your core body temperature more than DNP will if your DNP dose stays under 500mg a day. Combining the two will undoubtedly give you a mild fever-like symptoms and a core temperature increase of at least 1 degree. You do not want to risk an uncontrollable core temperature while using DNP. No, you do not "cook" from the inside, that's a bullshit lie. If your fever spikes, your body will never get high enough temperature to actually "cook" your meat before you die. You'll probably end up with a heart attack or stroke from a racing heart and severe blood pressure, or fatal dehydration. "Cooking" is a bullshit myth.

At 500mg DNP my core temperature has NEVER gone past my normal 98.4 degrees. Although, I indeed sweat like crazy and the sweat is unusually disgusting, oliy and smelly. Clen gave me a fever of almost 100 with some very mild sweating here and there.

If you have never used DNP, stacking it with clen is asking for side effects worse than DNP by itself with very little more to gain from it. Trust me, if you can last past 10 days on two 200-250mg doses per day, you will feel physically ill like you are slowly dying. You aren't actually dying, but you sure feel like you are on chemo or some horrid shit. It's NOT pleasant to be completely drained of energy while having carb cravings that would make an anorexic turn obese in a matter of hours.

Still, dropping 4-5% body fat in 14 days is worth the suffering for those who need the weight loss for competitive reasons. If you are sitting at about 10% bf and give DNP two weeks and can control your diet strictly and push yourself to be in the gym, you will turn out completely shredded in only two weeks. The results can be remarkable. If you can last 3 weeks, you can nearly be stage ready.

I never noticed much water retention on DNP, but even taking dbol, anadrol or high doses of test without AI's I never get the watery buffalo look that some guys get. I don't hold much water compared to most no matter what I do.

Longer runs at lower doses are even shittier because you just feel nearly as crappy but for longer and with less dramatic results by the day and you can underdrink water and get dehydrated.

Anyways, clen and DNP is a big no no IMO, because with my experience with clen and DNP separately, the stack would be absolutely intolerable to me. Fuxk it.
 
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I'm not promoting fear mongering at all.

I've used DNP 4 times and I laugh at the comments I see from people who haven't used it and think you will likely just fall over and die if you take it. Ignorance.

I've also used clen and I will NEVER use that shit again.

First, DNP it's extremely effective, far more effective than Clen. You'll see fat loss at 5-10x that of clen, so stacking them is just that much worse for your health for barely any more results. Clen is NOT a healthy drug and nor is DNP.

Second, clen in a moderate dose will actually raise your core body temperature more than DNP will if your DNP dose stays under 500mg a day. Combining the two will undoubtedly give you a mild fever-like symptoms and a core temperature increase of at least 1 degree. You do not want to risk an uncontrollable core temperature while using DNP.

At 500mg DNP my core temperature has NEVER gone past my normal 98.4 degrees. Clen gave me a fever of almost 100.

If you have never used DNP, stacking it with clen is asking for side effects worse than DNP by itself with very little more to gain from it. Trust me, if you can last past 10 days on two 200-250mg doses per day, you will feel physically ill like you are slowly dying. You aren't actually dying, but you sure feel like you are on chemo or some horrid shit. It's NOT pleasant to be completely drained of energy while having carb cravings that would make an anorexic turn obese in a matter of hours.

Still, dropping 4-5% body fat in 14 days is worth the suffering for those who need the weight loss for competitive reasons. If you are sitting at about 10% bf and give DNP two weeks and can control your diet strictly and push yourself to be in the gym, you will turn out completely shredded in only two weeks. The results can be remarkable.

Longer runs at lower doses are even shittier because you just feel nearly as crappy but for longer and with less dramatic results by the day.

Anyways, clen and DNP is a big no no IMO, because with my experience with clen and DNP separately, the stack would be absolutely intolerable.

Thanks for those details. That helps some people get a better understanding so they can make educated decisions.
 
People are not wrong to be weary of DNP. Misuse can be a life altering mistake. Ignorance of how it works and what it does and what to expect can get people in trouble.

People can overdose on aspirin by irresponsibility too. DNP just has a much lower threshold between safe and unsafe use.
 
what do you think the drug is doing to the rest of your insides if it can dissolve fat?
DON'T use it... you don't need it
 
Second, clen in a moderate dose will actually raise your core body temperature

And by what mechanism does this occur ?

How was your "core temp" measured?

Have you any evidence to support this assertion except YOUR "experience"

The most significant difference bt Clen and DNP, while the former has a THERAPEUTIC indication the latter does NOT, and that's as it should be, since DNP is listed as a poison by the FDA.

Wanna losse weight, I can think of no single drug methodology that possesses a higher risk to benefit ratio than DNP.
 
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As for those desperate few who are "considering" DNP, good God man get some help with weight loss that is evidence based and lasting, bc there are no secret potions, meds, techniques or formulas.
 
I personally preferred to cycle clen 2 weeks on/off with DNP (dosing in both cases is kept very low) to get the best of both worlds and would rather use EC with DNP to aid with the fatigue sides.

Interestingly, beta 2 agonists in general may actually help with the allergic reaction some users get on dnp via their action on mast cells & blocking histamine release through increased cAMP levels.
It's one of the reasons why epinephrine shots are used in medical settings to inhibit anaphylaxsis (severe allergic reaction). For more info see:
- http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(99)70157-0/fulltext
- Mast cell beta2-adrenoceptors. - PubMed - NCBI

Education is fun :)
 
I dont have a lot of faith in alibaba. I want to see if it looks like mine.
Here is a pic of crystal dnp . image.jpeg I bought some sarms as well. So far I tried gw1516 and mk677. I noticed slight improvement in stamina at 16 mgs Ed. I have done blood work to confirm the legitimacy in mk677. I was taking an average dose of 30 mg Ed and drew blood on the 14th day. My baseline is 160. Blood results came back 210.image.png So the mk is about 50% purity but I only paid $15 per gram. It could be a gamble when doing business in alibaba but sometimes you just have to take on faith.
 
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