Proper way to inject HCG

[Wood4days]

Bdubb22

Did you notice any lost in strength or

You will. I was only gonna do one but ive already layed out my 3rd and 4th cycle lol

Did you notice any lost in gains and strength off your first cycle? Sex drive back to normal after pct?

 

[Docd187123]

1) I'm not a doctor. Only Dr. Scally and Dr. Jim are as far as I know

2) HCG use depends on context. Using it for fertility is a different protocol than using it for a cycle. How to Use it for a cycle will also depend on the cycle ie compounds, dosages, duration, etc.

 

[bdub22]

I lost some strength but i wasn't to worried about that. I kept a good portion of the gains and i never lost my sex drive even on pct

 

[InquisitiveT]

Hi guys,

I'm interested in the same, doing a standard Test E only cycle at 500mg a week, Adex E3D @ .5mg, PCT of Nolva at 40/40/20/20 (have clomid on hand too in case I want to stack both together... probably wont').

I've read a lot of differing items on hcg and the most common is, as has been addressed here: 250iu 2x a week. But the thing also is- lots of folks say it's not even necessary and many say they don't even do it. They recover just fine during PCT, especially if it's a simple Test E only cycle at a conservative dose (500mg a week is pretty mild, in general, yes?).

Thoughts on not using hcg at all?

 

[Eman]

Also here is a link to Rich Piana's video advice on HCG

Do not, I repeat, do not listen to any advice that Rich Piana provides on cycling AAS.

I use 250 iu twice a week throughout cycle and I only add AI if I get sides, which are few and far between.

 

[bdub22]

Hi guys,

I'm interested in the same, doing a standard Test E only cycle at 500mg a week, Adex E3D @ .5mg, PCT of Nolva at 40/40/20/20 (have clomid on hand too in case I want to stack both together... probably wont').

I've read a lot of differing items on hcg and the most common is, as has been addressed here: 250iu 2x a week. But the thing also is- lots of folks say it's not even necessary and many say they don't even do it. They recover just fine during PCT, especially if it's a simple Test E only cycle at a conservative dose (500mg a week is pretty mild, in general, yes?).

Thoughts on not using hcg at all?

I think on just 500 test e you will be fine without. But imo hcg will do nothing but help you in the long run so why not take it.

 

[Wood4days]

Do not, I repeat, do not listen to any advice that Rich Piana provides on cycling AAS.

I use 250 iu twice a week throughout cycle and I only add AI if I get sides, which are few and far between.

haha. Damn Rich Piana gives bad advice then. Is he not a well known competitor in the body building world? I just recently heard of him from watching Tosh.o lol

 

[Wood4days]

I think on just 500 test e you will be fine without. But imo hcg will do nothing but help you in the long run so why not take it.

So 500mg Test E/week
and 400mg Primo/week
HCG is not needed but it is also safe to take 500iu/week?

If its safe I'll just take HCG and avoid all risk

I did gear like 10 years ago and was dumb. I took sustanon 250 and 500mg/week and clomid for pct. I lost all my strength and gains. Had diarrhea for like 1 month and sweat alot during bed.

this is why I want to do more and more and more research before starting my cycle.

 

[bdub22]

haha. Damn Rich Piana gives bad advice then. Is he not a well known competitor in the body building world? I just recently heard of him from watching Tosh.o lol

No he used to compete but not no more. He just makes videos to get views to help with his supplement line. He has been cycling longer than ive been alive but i dont agree with alot of things he says.

 

[bdub22]

So 500mg Test E/week
and 400mg Primo/week
HCG is not needed but it is also safe to take 500iu/week?

If its safe I'll just take HCG and avoid all risk

Its safe as far as i know. I see no risk taking hcg i think it will only help. Alot of people run big ass cycles and never use it and they recover just fine. So its up to you but hcg is not expensive if you run it a 250iu 2x week. So i will always run it

 

[Eman]

haha. Damn Rich Piana gives bad advice then. Is he not a well known competitor in the body building world? I just recently heard of him from watching Tosh.o lol

He's a well known individual in the bodybuilding world, mostly through his youtube career. He's a well known supplement salesman in the bodybuilding world. That's about it though... I have enjoyed some of his videos too. But I would not take advice on cycling from him because a lot of it is ridiculous.

 

[Wood4days]

1) How to Use it for a cycle will also depend on the cycle ie compounds, dosages, duration, etc.

where will I find this information?

 

[InquisitiveT]

I think on just 500 test e you will be fine without. But imo hcg will do nothing but help you in the long run so why not take it.

Makes sense. You're ok without it but using it can only help. This is sort of the paradigm I understood as well from all the differing trains of thoughts out there.

I probably won't do it this time around, and then run another cycle again at some point and then use it. See the difference for myself.

 

[Wood4days]

Its safe as far as i know. I see no risk taking hcg i think it will only help. Alot of people run big ass cycles and never use it and they recover just fine. So its up to you but hcg is not expensive if you run it a 250iu 2x week. So i will always run it

Sounds like a plan.

by the way. which one do you buy the reconstituted vial or the powder? if you buy the powder do you put the in the fridge or only after you mix it?

 

[Docd187123]

where will I find this information?

What's your cycle like?

 

[bdub22]

Sounds like a plan.

by the way. which one do you buy the reconstituted vial or the powder? if you buy the powder do you put the in the fridge or only after you mix it?

I buy powder and mix it with bacteriostatic water. You dont have to put it in fridge until you mix it then it needs to be kept cold

 

[Wood4days]

What's your cycle like?

Status:
5'6"
146 lbs
Body fat 14%
Wanting to gain 10-20 lbs lean muscle while staying lean and shredded

12 week

Week 1 - 12
- Test E 500mg (250mg Monday & 250mg Thursday )
- Primo 400mg (200mg Monday & 200mg Thursday )
- HGH 3.5iu ED (6-12 months)
- arimidex .5mg EOD
- HCG 250iu every 4 days or (Monday & Thursday) starting 14 days after first Test E injection
- (HCG ends on the last shot of Test E of the cycle)

PCT (2 weeks after last Test injection)
Week 1-2
nolvadex 40mg everyday (14 days)

Week 3-4
Nolvadex 20mg everyday (14days)

 

[Wood4days]

I buy powder and mix it with bacteriostatic water. You dont have to put it in fridge until you mix it then it needs to be kept cold

ok great. Just wanted to know since I put my powder HGH in fridge.

 

[Wood4days]

I start my adex on day 1. Some people wait till they start getting estro sides before starting.

I pin my hcg on mon/thur and i pin it subq with a slin pin

bdub22

I was calculating the HCG shots. If you do HCG Monday and Thursday and I assume the vial you have is 2000iu

by the 7th shot you will be at the 21 day mark at which the HCG is no longer good. So the 8th shot which you should have 500iu left in the 2000 iu bottle will be no good.

is this correct?

 

[Docd187123]

Status:
5'6"
146 lbs
Body fat 14%
Wanting to gain 10-20 lbs lean muscle while staying lean and shredded

12 week

Week 1 - 12
- Test E 500mg (250mg Monday & 250mg Thursday )
- Primo 400mg (200mg Monday & 200mg Thursday )
- HGH 3.5iu ED (6-12 months)
- arimidex .5mg EOD
- HCG 250iu every 4 days or (Monday & Thursday) starting 14 days after first Test E injection
- (HCG ends on the last shot of Test E of the cycle)

PCT (2 weeks after last Test injection)
Week 1-2
nolvadex 40mg everyday (14 days)

Week 3-4
Nolvadex 20mg everyday (14days)

Start pct 3wks after you stop the test.

You could try the HCG at 250iu twice a week during the cycle, or run it like Dr. Scally recommends or both. Probably won't need both though since it's not such an aggressive cycle.