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Anabolic Steroids
Anavar and liver support (NAC)
- Thread starter Inquiring Mind
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and the use of AAS does NOT deplete glutathione stores.
Demethylation at the number 17 position is the putative cause of AAS related hepatic toxicity.
And demethylation is the first of several metabolic steps that are required as they enhance water solubility and therefore renal excretion of oral anabolic agents.
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Getbignotdietrying
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Is that what it does? I've been getting sick throats ache, swollen tonsils, fevers etc way too often . About 3 months into using NAC I realized I was no longer getting sick (yes I was getting sick very often, had blood work done and ua everything was ok) A full year into its use and I've only been sick once or twice and it was just a minor cold that went away within a few days. So I continued its use at only 600mg/day. So about 20.00 for a 9 month supply I'm ok with that.
CherryChillin
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I'm aware. No harm in using it as a supp. It increases sodium potassium pump efficiency according to YOU dr. Jim stoppani, lol.
Also it Lowers incidence if autism, I believe, according to Dave asprey.
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Roco Bama
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If some people have the extra money to buy supplements then why not. Just don't order from stores that ship from oversees.
CherryChillin
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I'm all about it man, read up on Dave asprey and his view. Good stuff on it.
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Getbignotdietrying
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Exactly what I'm saying.
1) I never like to suggest ANY drug is wo harm esp NAC which has a 10-20% frequency of GI adverse effects (nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramps, etc) in those treated for an APAP OD, and is one reason an IV preparation is available
2) I said that ---- NOT, locate the quote where I made such a comment
3) Yea and that's on level with those who contend "sugar causes or is associated with Autism" ----
BALONEY!
And there's no way of KNOWING NAC had anything to do with your "recovery".
Heck from an evidence based perspective your diet, lifestyle, psychosocial factors or the use of UGL compounds were more likely responsible than ingestioning homeopathic doses of NAC
That's a classic one person anecdote folk are fond of parroting on PED forums as evidence but such reports have almost nothing to do with scientific evidence and better approximate snake oil cures.
Considering your 29%bf your first priority should be fat loss. Anavar is not really going to make you loss much weight. Anything you take is going to aromatize into estrogen at a higher rate due to your body fat. Fist thing you should do is try an ECA stack or Albuteral. Once you loss enough weight testosterone alone with clean diet will make you lose fat and built muscle. You should not consider a cycle until you get your body fat below 18%. Primobolan would be the closest thing to anavar that is an injectable
You need to do more research
Getbignotdietrying
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Thanks for you
that was over a year ago. Only thing that changed was the addition of NAC. I get it .. you do not like it. I monitor everything I take and concluded that NAC was the difference maker. That's just me. Maybe others don't have the same results. That and I never said it helped me with "recovery". Just an immune boost. And at 25.00 a year....? I'll stick to my low dose NAC along with my multi vitamin lol. Thanks for your input though Jim. It is ALWAYS appreciated. Glad to be scrolling through meso again.
An immune boost, a vitamin a day would likely have equivalent benefits BUT as you wish.
Test_Subject
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If you find anything, please forward it to me. I'd be interested in reading what you find.
For those who want to review some of the articles on this topic try the "Anabolic Steroids and the Liver" STICKY thread in the Anabolic Steroids forum.
But understand there is no evidence based information involving the use of "Liver Protectors" as PED prophylactic agents especially in humans.
But understand there is no evidence based information involving the use of "Liver Protectors" as PED prophylactic agents especially in humans.
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Why this topic keeps coming up so often is anyone's guess. I think it is partly due to complete and total ignorance/stupidity and a desperate need to look/appear as a 'bro. [For those that note a change in LFTs as evidence further demonstrates their ignorance when it comes to CLINICAL relevance.]
Inquiring Mind
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For one, i want to avoid relying on high end doses of Test just for the sake of gains, and of course the negative sides associated with high Test doses.
I just want to lean out or cut namely visceral fat, and preserve strength in the process. I have taken dieting and training as far as i can and now i feel like i want the exogenous help to accomplish my goals.
Your point about the bf if well taken, I've been reluctantly learning how to count macros and weigh my food, this has been the toughest week for me. LOL its crazy how much one can chew on through out the day...a small had full of cashews, a that one sugar free cookie, the sip of wife's red beer...the one little spoon of sour cream, that one bit out of my daughters pancake..all innocent little nibbles...and totally disparaged and not realize how all those little calories add the fuck up. Now im using an App to help me keep track, and I've just been catching myself cheating all over the place. LOL
Inquiring Mind
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Sounds a little heavy on the heart, don't you think?
Inquiring Mind
Member
Sure thing bro!
And how unfortunate much of what is parroted on PED forums
reflects a desire to fulfill that "need".
