TSL LABS

[fit2beking]

I also am fairly certain he doesn't mass spec, so he could have a bad batch of raws.

It doesn't have to be that he is located in warm climate. Remember airplanes don't have ac, transport trucks don't have a/c if a product is being transferred from across the pond and rides in the back of a truck that is 120-140 degrees this could affect Raws.

Also, many labs to complain about test e being so inconsistent. If I were a lab this would be one ester I would make sure to always get mass spec on.

Believe it was @Eman who also mentioned issues with test e from various labs. But this is also why I eaither stick to cyp or prop.

Fair enough @Roger rabbit. This still falls on the lab to make sure the product is up to snuff. I agree mass spec is the way to go.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Fair enough @Roger rabbit. This still falls on the lab to make sure the product is up to snuff. I agree mass spec is the way to go.

Agree fully that it falls back on the lab no doubt.

I also believe @chest said at the very beginning that this lab has had issues with the test e before when he was private lab.

 

[Roger rabbit]

That's what is going on, and I see this a lot.

Free test is high, total test is low. But they have great gains and some even say the best gains they ever seen. But complain about the total test number.

Your free test is where most your gains come from, it is not bound up and is able to be utilized.

I'm not defending tsl. period. I'm not stating a comment to @w1ck3d

I had to repost, I didn't mean to say I wasn't making a statement to w1ck3d silly auto correct.

It meant to say this statement is for wicked lol.
Basically saying I'm not defending this lab just making a comment back for wicked. Sorry bout that.

 

[Throwback]

Would you be satisfied if the 500mg / week gave you 3,000 total test and 10 free test?

Well ...if you have 3000 total why would you have a score of 10 free?
What could cause it on a test only cycle?
Any ideas?

 

[T-Bagger]

It doesn't have to be that he is located in warm climate. Remember airplanes don't have ac, transport trucks don't have a/c if a product is being transferred from across the pond and rides in the back of a truck that is 120-140 degrees this could affect Raws.

Also, many labs do complain about test e being so inconsistent. If I were a lab this would be one ester I would make sure to always get mass spec on.

Believe it was @Eman who also mentioned issues with test e from various labs. But this is also why I eaither stick to cyp or prop.

Glad to hear this. I have my order in for Cyp because I had great gains on it a few cycles back. Tried E because I was told it was better. It definitely wasn't.

 

[w1ck3d]

That's what is going on, and I see this a lot.

Free test is high, total test is low. But they have great gains and some even say the best gains they ever seen. But complain about the total test number.

Your free test is where most your gains come from, it is not bound up and is able to be utilized.

I'm not defending tsl. period. I'm not stating a comment to @w1ck3d

Thank you sir!

 

[Frozen]

Too bad I ordered enanthate bottle about a week ago, hopefully it's a different better batch:/

 

[T-Bagger]

Too bad I ordered enanthate bottle about a week ago, hopefully it's a different better batch:/

Message him to see if it's shipped. If not, ask for Cyp instead.

 

[w1ck3d]

I ordered e as well... Oh well... After all this test e talk though i might have to give cyp a try

 

[T-Bagger]

I ordered e as well... Oh well... After all this test e talk though i might have to give cyp a try

I've had several people tell me E was the way to go, but I know my body and what worked. Cyp kicked ass for me. I'm looking forward to this next cycle of Cyp with a Dbol kickstart.

 

[T-Bagger]

That's what is going on, and I see this a lot.

Free test is high, total test is low. But they have great gains and some even say the best gains they ever seen. But complain about the total test number.

Your free test is where most your gains come from, it is not bound up and is able to be utilized.

I'm not defending tsl. period. I'm not stating a comment to @w1ck3d

Your knowledge is astounding, bro

 

[Roger rabbit]

Well ...if you have 3000 total why would you have a score of 10 free?
What could cause it on a test only cycle?
Any ideas?

Many factors could make this situation a real possibility.

Alcohol will significantly drop free test as it raises your shbg. Especially since shbg is made in the liver.

Any number of habits can raise shbg can cause this situation and would ultimately lower the free test due to hightend shbg.

But speaking of, this is why the biggest guys in meso preach nutrition, magnesium and the vitamins you get from certain Whole Foods help to lower shbg and thus for, they see big gains.

But to clerify, I feel as if there was a bad batch of test e for sure. I'm not trying to justify that at all. Just simple fun talk about testosterone and the human body is all I'm speaking about.

 

[legendary]

Alcohol will significantly drop free test as it raises your shbg. Especially since shbg is made in the liver.

Ok fine. Only 1 more drink tonight.

 

[Throwback]

Many factors could make this situation a real possibility.

Alcohol will significantly drop free test as it raises your shbg. Especially since shbg is made in the liver.

Any number of habits can raise shbg can cause this situation and would ultimately lower the free test due to hightend shbg.

But speaking of, this is why the biggest guys in meso preach nutrition, magnesium and the vitamins you get from certain Whole Foods help to lower shbg and thus for, they see big gains.

But to clerify, I feel as if there was a bad batch of test e for sure. I'm not trying to justify that at all. Just simple fun talk about testosterone and the human body is all I'm speaking about.

Thats what this is all about....gains and making this shell we're stuck in as good as it can be.
Just wish i was u guys age again....would have loved to started this 20 yrs ago!

 

[legendary]

Thats what this is all about....gains and making this shell we're stuck in as good as it can be.
Just wish i was u guys age again....would have loved to started this 20 yrs ago!

Tell that to my knees and elbows

 

[Throwback]

Tell that to my knees and elbows

Really?....right now my wife is tying my shoes cuz the bar slipped doing deads yesterday and i caught it going down so i can barely bend at the waist.
Both knees crack like dried branches when i get up in the morning and i cannot completely straighten out my arms cuz my elbows arent working quite right.
If thats not enough i usually get a flat top haircut and the fucking barber buzz cut me with a #1 and i look like a skinhead.
So dont be complainin young man....lol

 

[legendary]

lol I'm bald. So I get 1/2 all around hahahahahahaha. Flat tops are for the old farts. That an mullets. Lol.

 

[Roger rabbit]

lol I'm bald. So I get 1/2 all around hahahahahahaha. Flat tops are for the old farts. That an mullets. Lol.

Business in the front ! Party in the rear!

( that's what my uncle always said as he was sporting his mullet)

 

[Usmc88]

Really?....right now my wife is tying my shoes cuz the bar slipped doing deads yesterday and i caught it going down so i can barely bend at the waist.
Both knees crack like dried branches when i get up in the morning and i cannot completely straighten out my arms cuz my elbows arent working quite right.
If thats not enough i usually get a flat top haircut and the fucking barber buzz cut me with a #1 and i look like a skinhead.
So dont be complainin young man....lol

I fucked my back for the 2nd time in 6months doing deads a couple weeks ago. Still can't walk right or sit long or do anything quickly without pinching nerves

 

[Frozen]

Message him to see if it's shipped. If not, ask for Cyp instead.

I'm sure it has, hopefully it's a different batch than all this bs because I've heard tons of rave reviews about these guys and I liked the communication I had with him, it was very professional. Add that and consistent quality products and we will be best friends on a very frequent basis