Slicin' and Dicin' into the summer

[Sworder]

If you end up dying bc the DNP are the rest of us now responsible for killing you?

I am not stating that it is the forum's responsibility. However, I am arguing that, and it has been stated many times of how good and tightly-knit some people are on here. The dick riding has come to a point where obvious bad ideas aren't knocked down as hard as they should to prevent friends from making bad choices. Perhaps if more people like yourself would have shared their opinion wunder might have changed his mind, he has admitted to having an open mind.

The forum wouldn't be responsible, however, I hope if a person would decide to run 800mg DNP/week that the opposition would be strong enough to shoot that idea down.
The main arguments against DNP use that I have seen is that the lethal and "therapeutic" dose is so close to each other. And comparably to other drugs this is true, but everything is relevant..

 

[Eman]

I am not stating that it is the forum's responsibility. However, I am arguing that, and it has been stated many times of how good and tightly-knit some people are on here. The dick riding has come to a point where obvious bad ideas aren't knocked down as hard as they should to prevent friends from making bad choices. Perhaps if more people like yourself would have shared their opinion wunder might have changed his mind, he has admitted to having an open mind.

The forum wouldn't be responsible, however, I hope if a person would decide to run 800mg DNP/week that the opposition would be strong enough to shoot that idea down.
The main arguments against DNP use that I have seen is that the lethal and "therapeutic" dose is so close to each other. And comparably to other drugs this is true, but everything is relevant..

It has nothing to do with dick riding, no matter how fixated you are on that.

You should not be using DNP, it's an unnecessarily dangerous drug for you to be using when you don't have a good reason to use it. You don't compete, right? So why use it when the risks don't outweigh the benefits? If you're only using a low dose you could get the same effects, albeit much safer, by just spending more time dieting.

You see? That's all an opinion. You obviously don't share it but it doesn't mean either of us are wrong. There's no one in your thread telling you to stop much like there wasn't many people here telling Wunder to stop. Further, I believe synthol is a much more benign item than DNP.

Wunder using synthol was something I wasn't crazy about and I'm sure I expressed it to him privately. I actually thought he'd reconsider at one point and he might have but synthetek had already sent his product. I know Wunder very well and when he has his mind set he definitely follows through.

Synthol is a pretty commonly used "compound" for lack of a better term. It's not spoken about very much in the open because it has a negative connotation. Maybe rightfully so, it's taboo like DNP. The whole purpose of logs are so others can see your experiences and learn from them... People reading Wunder's log are more informed of the risks because he's detailed them.

 

[Wunderpus]

I am not stating that it is the forum's responsibility. However, I am arguing that, and it has been stated many times of how good and tightly-knit some people are on here. The dick riding has come to a point where obvious bad ideas aren't knocked down as hard as they should to prevent friends from making bad choices. Perhaps if more people like yourself would have shared their opinion wunder might have changed his mind, he has admitted to having an open mind.

The forum wouldn't be responsible, however, I hope if a person would decide to run 800mg DNP/week that the opposition would be strong enough to shoot that idea down.
The main arguments against DNP use that I have seen is that the lethal and "therapeutic" dose is so close to each other. And comparably to other drugs this is true, but everything is relevant..

I took many opinions into consideration. But, I ended up deciding to do my own thing, and tried it out. Did it work out for me? No. But, I'm not a coward or a liar, so I have no issue talking about the mistakes that I've made, and hoping both myself and other members can learn from them.

I honestly still believe site enhancement oil/ site injections can be used safely... But, the level in which I was using them was reckless (volume and pin frequency). I'd be fucking shocked to find many people who would even USE it at that level (~18cc's/day).... Not many can afford that, or would be mentally capable of pushing through that pain threshold.

 

[Eman]

I took many opinions into consideration. But, I ended up deciding to do my own thing, and tried it out. Did it work out for me? No. But, I'm not a coward or a liar, so I have no issue talking about the mistakes that I've made, and hoping both myself and other members can learn from them.

I honestly still believe site enhancement oil/ site injections can be used safely... But, the level in which I was using them was reckless (volume and pin frequency). I'd be fucking shocked to find many people who would even USE it at that level (~18cc's/day).... Not many can afford that, or would be mentally capable of pushing through that pain threshold.

The idea of how much oil was really being used in the synthol protocol they recommended didn't really hit me until you and I were talking about it...

That much oil on top of the actual gear, fuck that.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

But, I'm not a coward or a liar

Nope, definitely neither

 

[Wunderpus]

The idea of how much oil was really being used in the synthol protocol they recommended didn't really hit me until you and I were talking about it...

That much oil on top of the actual gear, fuck that.

Yeah, you know it didn't REALLY hit me until I sent you that pic of all 6 syringes full of oil... I was like "Wow, fuck this is gonna suck...." Guess what? It did! But, I don't necessarily regret trying it... Why would I? I can't change what happened, and I always wanted to try it... It would always be in the back of my mind anyway.

 

[Sworder]

I'd be fucking shocked to find many people who would even USE it at that level (~18cc's/day).... Not many can afford that, or would be mentally capable of pushing through that pain threshold.

You got yours for free?

 

[Sworder]

It has nothing to do with dick riding, no matter how fixated you are on that.

You should not be using DNP, it's an unnecessarily dangerous drug for you to be using when you don't have a good reason to use it. You don't compete, right? So why use it when the risks don't outweigh the benefits? If you're only using a low dose you could get the same effects, albeit much safer, by just spending more time dieting.

You see? That's all an opinion. You obviously don't share it but it doesn't mean either of us are wrong.

An opinion, albeit a poorly educated opinion but yes that is your opinion. The more I use DNP the more I realize how people make drugs out to be the devil without first-hand experience leading to an inaccurate "opinion."
The "risks" do outweigh the benefits, as they are minimal. Dose dependent is a term that so many forget the meaning of. I posted a study on DNP in my log that is worth the read. At this point, I would support the statement that clenbuterol @ 100mcg/day has more sides than 200-300 mg DNP.

Again, I encourage opinions of all sorts, for or against as opinions are usually backed up with support and the validity of that support will determine how credible the argument is.

I believe anybody can use any compound they want. Insulin and GH included if the goals are to become pro. Most people here on this forum wouldn't want nor can get the physique of a pro-bodybuilder which is the main argument for me being against insulin and GH. Risk reduction taken ofc.

It makes sense now how Chest would support Wunder's slin/GH use as it is probably included in whatever program Wunder has going or will have going on.

 

[Wunderpus]

You got yours for free?

Yeah, I've stated that from day 1. Synthetek sent me some bottles to try as long as I posted an unbiased review.

An opinion, albeit a poorly educated opinion but yes that is your opinion. The more I use DNP the more I realize how people make drugs out to be the devil without first-hand experience leading to an inaccurate "opinion."

Change "drugs" to "synthol/SEO" and you are literally doing exactly what you're arguing against. You have zero experience with SEO, yet, comment on it.

"At this point, I would support the statement that clenbuterol @ 100mcg/day has more sides than 200-300 mg DNP." Sides, maybe. But, risk of overdose resulting in death? Much higher for DNP.... Much less room for error. Now, mind you, I am not damning DNP practice, I really don't know a lot about it...

"It makes sense now how Chest would support Wunder's slin/GH use as it is probably included in whatever program Wunder has going or will have going on." Elaborate further on this, if you can. It seems like an odd transition from what you were talking about.

 

[Eman]

I believe anybody can use any compound they want. Insulin and GH included if the goals are to become pro. Most people here on this forum wouldn't want nor can get the physique of a pro-bodybuilder which is the main argument for me being against insulin and GH. Risk reduction taken ofc.

And MY argument was an uneducated one? I'm sorry I bothered to engage with you on it. Your illusory superiority is fucking profound.

 

[brutus79]

An opinion, albeit a poorly educated opinion but yes that is your opinion. The more I use DNP the more I realize how people make drugs out to be the devil without first-hand experience leading to an inaccurate "opinion."
The "risks" do outweigh the benefits, as they are minimal. Dose dependent is a term that so many forget the meaning of. I posted a study on DNP in my log that is worth the read. At this point, I would support the statement that clenbuterol @ 100mcg/day has more sides than 200-300 mg DNP.

Again, I encourage opinions of all sorts, for or against as opinions are usually backed up with support and the validity of that support will determine how credible the argument is.

I believe anybody can use any compound they want. Insulin and GH included if the goals are to become pro. Most people here on this forum wouldn't want nor can get the physique of a pro-bodybuilder which is the main argument for me being against insulin and GH. Risk reduction taken ofc.

It makes sense now how Chest would support Wunder's slin/GH use as it is probably included in whatever program Wunder has going or will have going on.

So gh is for people looking to go pro and dnp is safe? That's funny. Having run both I would say dnp is for poor people with no willpower when it comes to diet, and gh is for people who have cash and want to feel good. 4-9 iu serostim isn't making anyone go pro, but it damn sure lubes the joints, deepens the sleep, makes me less injury prone and contributes to an overall more resilient physique not prone to weight drops when I miss calorie minimums.

Every time I think I have ever heard every stupid thing you have to say, you top yourself.... gh risk reward vs. Dnp? The only thing dnp is top on my list for is compounds I want you to take 100 times more than a standard dose of. Today.

 

[Eman]

So gh is for people looking to go pro and dnp is safe? That's funny. Having run both I would say dnp is for poor people with no willpower when it comes to diet, and gh is for people who have cash and want to feel good. 4-9 iu serostim isn't making anyone go pro, but it damn sure lubes the joints, deepens the sleep, makes me less injury prone and contributes to an overall more resilient physique not prone to weight drops when I miss calorie minimums.

Every time I think I have ever heard every stupid thing you have to say, you top yourself.... gh risk reward vs. Dnp? The only thing dnp is top on my list for is compounds I want you to take 100 times more than a standard dose of. Today.

Accusation of being apart of the circle jerk crew coming in 3... 2.... 1....

 

[ChestRockwell]

It makes sense now how Chest would support Wunder's slin/GH use as it is probably included in whatever program Wunder has going or will have going on.

To be clear, any posts I made on that topic were made before we agreed to work in an official capacity with one another.

The only reason I even got dragged into the discussion is because I wasn't previously aware of your reputation and was lured in by a very silly comment, which is shown below.

insulin is shit and gives you a big gut, let the pros use it imho.

 

[Eman]

To be clear, any posts I made on that topic were made before we agreed to work in an official capacity with one another.

The only reason I even got dragged into the discussion is because I wasn't previously aware of your reputation and was lured in by a very silly comment, which is shown below.

Lemme see that big gut, Chest.

 

[Mr.B66]

Opinions are just that, "opinions". It is my opinion that chocolate ice cream is much tastier than vanilla ice cream. No science behind this or any other form of research, its not necessary as it is simply MY OPINION!!!! I really hate stupid comments [emoji57]

 

[ChestRockwell]

Lemme see that big gut, Chest.

I have to say, I feel my protruding gut is arguably my best feature...

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Opinions are just that, "opinions". It is my opinion that chocolate ice cream is much tastier than vanilla ice cream. No science behind this or any other form of research, its not necessary as it is simply MY OPINION!!!! I really hate stupid comments [emoji57]

Im sorry to hear that. It is my FACTUAL opinion vanilla is better
*friends list, removed*

 

[Eman]

I have to say, I feel my protruding gut is arguably my best feature...

No argument here pal.

Im sorry to hear that. It is my FACTUAL opinion vanilla is better
*friends list, removed*

Give this man back his awesome member status.

 

[Mr.B66]

Im sorry to hear that. It is my FACTUAL opinion vanilla is better
*friends list, removed*

Dont get me wrong, i like vanilla...... With chocolate in it !!!
NOW PUT ME BACK ON THAT FRIEND LIST!!!!!!

 

[Marcus]

Dont get me wrong, i like vanilla...... With chocolate in it !!!
NOW PUT ME BACK ON THAT FRIEND LIST!!!!!!

At first glance, I thought you guys were talking about women... in which case, I like mine with a little mix but a little more chocolatey, like the color of coffee with a dash of cream